@MaximusChadikus @stefmadarts Based on early access, it’s going to be better than the first one.
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Croc
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@crockeraus @stefmadarts Im gonna. And probably gona enjoy it. But not till its done.
But that does nothing to counter my arguments ur just walking around it.
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I think more people need to re-learn a different experience in gaming than just fps or games that involve guns.
Trust me you are not getting hurt to try something different.
Pirat_Nation 🔴@Pirat_Nation
Subnautica 2 devs say "go play Sons of the Forest" if you don't like its lack of violence. The game focuses on underwater exploration, and you cannot kill most creatures. On the official Discord, one player asked why killing is impossible in SN2 as it makes no sense. Level designer Artyom O’Rielly replied, “This is not a killing game, so go play Sons of the Forest if you want to kill.” Another developer said, “The team discusses this a lot inside the studio and may let players catch small fish for food, but large creatures will stay safe so the game feels right.” This idea comes from the first Subnautica, as the team wants players to discover things, feel wonder, and live with ocean life instead of fighting it. A fan-made mod already lets players kill creatures, and the studio is reading all feedback. It plans to add better ways to scare off creatures but will not add weapons. Early access is expected to last up to 3 years.
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@crockeraus @stefmadarts Like asking me if I dont have an issue in a game but 15 other people do it shouldn't be looked into or taken seriously.
Fn ridiculous.
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@crockeraus @stefmadarts That seems like the defensive options are to deepl in the tech tree then, or the players who played 1 could kill amd now can't and find it to be annoying.
Either way the complaints should be addressed appropriately not with snarky dev whining.
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@Ruel1991 @Godzillalover48 Tourist who hasn’t played the game long enough to unlock the defence options.
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@Godzillalover48 'Nihilistic retards when someone makes a mod so that people can defend themselves from violent predators that try to eat them.'
GIF
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"Humanity First" Mfs when they see a video game that isn't violent and has beautiful but dangerous creatures that need to be protected at all costs to raise awareness of marine and wildlife conservation and stop pollution and recycle more.
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Grummz@Grummz
Subnautica 2 is a pacifist ideology woven into a game. Players have noticed you cannot defend yourself against attacking fish. Not even in self defense. Only passive means are available. This was by design. You can't kill anything because the devs feel it would support gun violence and aspects of colonialism: "Subnautica is one vote towards a world with less guns. A reminder that there is another way forward." "We want people to feel like they're learning to adapt to the world, rather than being a conqueror or dominator." "We aren't a killing game. Go play Sons of the Forest or something if you want to kill." The anti-violence stance got stronger from Subnautica 1 -> 2, which now has a complete "no kill" policy even when the fish can still kill *you*.
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@JohnLennyPenny @helyearelyea Exactly, and there are more defence options you find as you play.
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@helyearelyea Funny how that second group ignores that you can already block or parry attacks with the Multi-tool, and ignore the comments from devs saying they're going to add more way to defend yourself, just not killing.
So either the second group, is ignorant, illiterate, or want to kill.
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From what I can tell with the Subnautica 2 discussions:
Some people think killing should not be in the game because you’re supposed to be powerless in a foreign world. Even knives shouldn’t be used because you wouldn’t stab a whale to death. They are too big and powerful so how would you take out a leviathan?
Then you have a second group who just want to be able to defend themselves from smaller to medium sized aggressive enemies.
The first group acts like the second group wants to murder every creature on Sight like monsters. They should just use flairs to distract enemies.
I personally would like to keep the immersion of not being able to kill the giant enemies but but would like to be able to defend myself from the small to mid size enemies.
Feels like everybody is so passionate about where they stand because we all loved Subnautica and everybody has their own opinions as to what they want or what they think would be best.
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@VokunSun @5nowy_1 @stefmadarts I don’t understand why the upgraded biomods aren’t enough to defend yourself. I’m only worried about the leviathan now, and even that I can almost outrun in the tadpole.
And it looks like there are more biomod upgrades coming, and hopefully multiple you can have active at once.
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@5nowy_1 @stefmadarts Right? We definitely arent just asking for our knife back And maybe that cool machete looking thing we find in one of the alien houses…… we definitely want rocket launchers and .50 cal machine guns
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@MaximusChadikus @stefmadarts Have you played it?
There are self defence options, but telling people could be considered spoilers.
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@stefmadarts They wouldn't have a problem with it the developer had kept his mouth shut and the studio listened and provided more self defense options for players.
Now it blew up.
Oh well.
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@KillerDash21 @kenshirotism That’s odd, I just turned all the lights off and zapped them about 6 times and they left.
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@crockeraus @kenshirotism Not really the hammerheads still stack up in your base and its to late in the game to have the electro pulse
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Because the number 1 complaint among players is that fish aggro way too hard and it's just annoying to deal with.
Not tense, not scary, annoying.
Big Bad Wolf@wolf_big67589
@kenshirotism If the devs don't want you to murder everything that's their right, it's their game. Why do you think YOU are entitled to tell devs how to make THEIR game? They already sold over 2 millions, they don't need your money.
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The amount of people in these comments comfortable drinking my fellow slugs scares me
Water Slug@WaterSIug
Reminder that there are less violent alternatives to getting water
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@GWSilvertail @ProjectHemlock I swear I saw a fish eat another in that glow pool area.
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@ProjectHemlock Acting like there's an eco system to begin with when fish cant kill fish.
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The devs should genuinely make it so if the game detects too many of the large hostile species die, a big 'Ecological imbalance' thing pops up, and EVERYTHING dies, and your save just sorta ends.
PC Gamer@pcgamer
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@RRunner82066 @AtomEternal Really? I use the shock biomod and they leave me alone. And it doesn’t take up any inventory space.
Going to test the chum biomod tonight, heard that doesn’t do much though.
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@AtomEternal It would still be a problem. The source of the problem just wouldn't be as obvious. By the way, after conducting my own testing, turns out that the aggressive fauna east of the Collector couldn't be bothered by the best deterrent in the game that doesn't take up a bunch of space.
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@skavenslave Can travel through space and clone people but they can't have a tool more sophisticated than a flare and a balloon.
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You're not the apex predator because the devs won't let you be. That massive flesh ball would die to a single torpedo.
Luke Leisher@luke_leisher_
Why are people getting mad that they’re not the apex predator in “you’re on an alien planet and you’re no longer the apex predator” the game
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@hornedLeaf @RogueLikely @skavenslave Keep playing, there are self-defence options. It’s way later in the game, I think at around 20 hours I found them.
This is why these posts don’t make sense or seem like bots.
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@RogueLikely @skavenslave I understand that in the lore, the massacre of Obraxis Prime will take away our weapons, but I just want it to be like Subnautica 1 and Below Zero, you know, self-defense.
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@Darkside_1188 @megagates_gg You just haven’t found what you need, it’s in the game.
I won’t spoil it, but keep playing!
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@megagates_gg I'm about 6 hours in at the moment, the lack of tools to shoo things away is a bit meh but overall it does not take away from the fact that it is a fantastic game, looks amazing, has great QoL changes and exploration is very rewarding. I hope you enjoy when you play!
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@Cosmic_Frost @MonikaCinnyRoll The biomods, there is a camo one, distract (chum), and a shock one.
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@MonikaCinnyRoll My take is that you should have a weapon like the stasis rifle to stop the creatures from attacking you for a moment.
And to lower how hostile they get with you. It's still early access so give them time.
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Fuck it I'm making a Subnautica 2 "Fish Killing Discourse" video.
From the perspective of someone who's played Subnautica since 2015.
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@YuckyRoachie Unlock the biomods, the game is a lot easier once you do.
If predators are still bothering you with those, it might be time to switch to creative.
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@NedNedburger Agreed, it’s a skill issue.
Also, you can deter/distract, there are late game discoveries that help, keep playing!
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I feel like I’m in a minority of people who don’t care that you can’t kill the hostile creatures.
I wish that you were able to deter them better, but mods like this just show you’re bad at games.
PC Gamer@pcgamer
Subnautica 2 mod lets you kill all the fish you want 🪼 Mod: jibotron Submit your best clip for a chance to win $500! pcgamer.com/clips/?utm_sou… #Subnautica2 #pcgamerclips
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@UndeadAmodar @kenshirotism Have you unlocked all the biomods?
Once you do it flips, much like the first game and unlocking the prawn suit.
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@kenshirotism Even Soviet cosmonauts were issued weapons in a chance of landing too close to bears or other hostile wildlife.
And as it stands right now Subnautica 2 is just victim simulator.
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Divers carry knives on them.
Just tone down the aggressive AI and let people have a knife.
Right there, 90% of the issues are solved.
Pirat_Nation 🔴@Pirat_Nation
Subnautica 2 devs say "go play Sons of the Forest" if you don't like its lack of violence. The game focuses on underwater exploration, and you cannot kill most creatures. On the official Discord, one player asked why killing is impossible in SN2 as it makes no sense. Level designer Artyom O’Rielly replied, “This is not a killing game, so go play Sons of the Forest if you want to kill.” Another developer said, “The team discusses this a lot inside the studio and may let players catch small fish for food, but large creatures will stay safe so the game feels right.” This idea comes from the first Subnautica, as the team wants players to discover things, feel wonder, and live with ocean life instead of fighting it. A fan-made mod already lets players kill creatures, and the studio is reading all feedback. It plans to add better ways to scare off creatures but will not add weapons. Early access is expected to last up to 3 years.
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