John Chalice

SO MANY in our world who claim their 'faith' is guaranteed to 'save' them apart from having to do ANYTHING ELSE have falsely believed God became man, not that Jesus is God's Son, truly NOT as God Himself, to rightly FOLLOW Jesus in continued faith IN repentance unto eternal life.

So it's NOT because of who WE are that we get brownie points with God, but only because of who Jesus is and because of what Jesus did FOR us in dying and being raised back to life by God, IF we believe Jesus IS God's Son to NOT falsely believe He's God, to follow unto life's end. This is TRULY the manifestation of Philippians 4:13 -- "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." It is NOT by our OWN strength or our OWN self-effort we can achieve that which is Godly, but by depending on God and Christ, and especially Christ's own strength.

Original sin: Within Adam's sin, all who came through him are sinners, except God's own Son Jesus, who had God for His Father, also eternally existent. So, the condemnation Adam faced is faced by all who came THROUGH Adam, which Jesus' death and Resurrection perfectly destroys.

OK. I DO believe salvation from sin is a MUST for eternal life, and that no one can earn it, but it's a gift of God's grace by faith in His Son; It's just so tough to face the sentence I deserve for each and every sin, seemingly death unto Hellfire, consigned to from Adam's sin.

Salvation from sin IS by faith alone, not of works lest any man should boast. But after one is saved from sin, one must employ obedient faith-filled following OF Jesus Christ in repentance, and endure unto life's end IN these, or get everlasting punishment, and NOT eternal life.

@joshwhitlatch When one refuses to pay attention to Scripture in its entirety, rightly read, one CAN conclude as you have. But Jesus made it clear His SHEEP are the ones who are not lost, whom He 'knows', who 'hear' His voice, and who 'follow' Him, who endure to the end, as He said we must do.

@PeterFreem1972 @RealShahriqKhan David was prophesying about Jesus when he wrote Psalm 22. Jesus didn't quote Psalm 22, but rather David looked ahead in time by his prophesy and quoted Jesus.

@PeterFreem1972 @RealShahriqKhan Jesus wasn't quoting Psalm 22, David looked ahead in time when writing Psalm 22 and quoted Jesus from His cross.

I used to think Jesus couldn't be God because He didn't fight back. Arrested. Mocked. Beaten. Crucified. And He just took it. I thought, "Where's the power in that?" Then I realized something that shattered me: Jesus wasn't refusing to fight because He was weak. He was refusing to fight because He was dying for us. It's like asking why a father doesn't strike back when his hurting child lashes out at him. Love doesn't always defend itself. Sometimes it absorbs the blow to heal the one causing it. Islam taught me that strength was domination. The cross taught me that strength is restraint. Real power is having the ability to destroy and choosing to forgive instead. Jesus wasn't a victim. He predicted His own death. Walked straight toward it. Held back legions of angels. And chose the cross anyway. "No one takes my life from me, but I lay it down of my own accord." (John 10:18) That's not weakness. That's a King so committed to saving His enemies that He willingly suffered for them. Jesus didn't fight for a crown. He took a cross to win the war forever. He wasn't proving He was God by destroying His enemies. He was proving how far God would go to save them. That's not weakness. That's how heaven wins.

@Arbiter_Apodict @RealShahriqKhan God the Father MEANS "God, who is the Father" as we get BOTH from Gal. 1, where "God the Father" is used in similar with "God and our Father" God both The Father and OUR Father, and from 1 Cor 8:6, where Paul says the one 'God' is "The Father", the one 'Lord' is "Jesus Christ".

@crysaliq @RealShahriqKhan You're seeing something from your own puny human perspective, and based on what you can know and understand, are applying your own rules to God, a being far outside your ability to comprehend. Go read Job 38 and consider humbling yourself.

@mtsimonwrites @RealShahriqKhan God the Father MEANS "God, who is the Father" as we get BOTH from Gal. 1, where "God the Father" is used in similar with "God and our Father" God both The Father and OUR Father, and from 1 Cor 8:6, where Paul says the one 'God' is "The Father", the one 'Lord' is "Jesus Christ".

Jesus, though fully God was subject to God the Father due to the fact that He was also fully human. And just before he said "My God, my God..." God the Holy Spirit withdrew from Him which let the full brunt of dying be felt by Jesus. So, of course, He cried out. Crucifixions can drag out for a long time. But he Spirit's withdrawal was a mercy, shortening how long Jesus would continue to suffer. If He had stayed with Jesus, Jesus probably would have had to get his legs broken to hasten His passing like the criminals to the left and right of Him.

I truly don't know if I still HAVE hope, what with all the sin I've ended up in. Yes, my parents didn't teach me how to avoid it, and even led me INTO it, and the 'churches' I faced falsely claimed Christ was God, or that He's created, not the Word sans beginning, now God's Son.

I'm really so stuck, wherein the world at large I know needs the Gospel, but in my lack of love from my parents, or from most anyone, I didn't LEARN love rightly, so I don't KNOW how to properly love, especially IN Christ, wherein I KNOW the world does need God's love in Christ.

I REALLY want to be a light in this world to help people know what I've learned about God, Jesus, and the Gospel, but so often in finding so many seeking contrary ideas, I find myself antagonistic, rather than rightly helpful unto the end, in my heart-memory of spiritual clashes.

@LetsGoJazz1232 @gwowls Lucifer wanted God's worship for his own, which is inexcusable, especially for angels, so in the pride of his heart, he ended up being kicked out of Heaven for it, along with 1/3 of the angels who followed after him.

PLUS when Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I Am", He was stating Himself as unchanging and eternal, comparing himself to Abraham who was not. Whereas Lucifer is an angel, and NOT Jesus' brother, and is also created, who sought to be "like the Most High", which IS what got him expelled from Heaven, NOT simply because he came up with a plan to compel people to obey without free will alongside Jesus' other supposed "plan". And LDS follow in Lucifer's footsteps, in seeking to be "Like God", which he also tempted Eve with, and which they pursue in desiring to be gods like the only true God, The Father.

If God was not once man, then who is Jesus?

@LetsGoJazz1232 @gwowls AND although LDS believe in multiple gods, Jesus said in His High Priestly prayer UNTO His Father in John 17, "This is eternal life, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." The only true God; He is the only true God. There are no more.

Ephesians 3:9 says God created all things by Jesus Christ. He is the very instrument by which all things were created BY God, which we also know from Colossians 1:16, "by Him were all things created.. all things were created by Him, and for Him".. NOT that Jesus created all things, but He was the instrument BY which all things WERE CREATED.

Both Hosea 11:9, where God says, "I am God, and not man", and Numbers 23:19, where Balaam prophesies unto Balak, "God is not a man", prove to us God is NOT a man, and never has BEEN a man, but is The Father, which is what "God the Father" means -- namely "God, who is the Father". And John 1 proves for us Jesus is the Word by which all things were made, who had the very FORM of God in the beginning 'theos', and was WITH God in the beginning, so He therefore cannot BE the very God whom He was WITH, just like anyone who is WITH someone cannot be the person they are said to be WITH.