Chris Beiser

Pretty fucked up how, starting in the 13th century, Big Tech enclosed the commons, deeding the land to feudal lords and forcing smallholders to rent the land they worked.

@segyges broadly I agree but I do also think Dario felt excluded or uncool as an intern at Baidu and metabolized that into a hatred of China writ large

They went to do regulatory capture and had an abyss-staring-into-you issue. They had to sell "ban all AI forever" to Congress, and everyone who actually interacted with Congress found that only China hawkery worked. From this came Situational Awareness, AI 2027, etc

@segyges @David_Kasten something remarkable is that no lesswrong piece, to this day, has cited Qiushi. Nobody is even looking at what the Party is saying, even as it’s become the #1 enemy!

@David_Kasten yeah i can tell it was a huge deal before the chatgpt release

@transgendererer i often point out to them like, uhhh, even if cats can talk, you raised your cat isolated from all other cats, if you do that to humans they never develop language, even if we do get this ability we'll never be able to talk to your cat i think the whales have some bangers tho

i dont really get people tho think "understanding what animals are saying" will reveal a lot of content. but i think its a beautiful childlike worldview. imagine, if animals really WERE saying a lot. that would be so lovely! a fuller world!

@JohnWakefieId they hated him because he spoke the truth

Here's the thing: I can take Jesus being a bleeding-heart socialist or cold-blooded capitalist. But if He comes back and He's spouting off Georgist land value tax nonsense, I'm crucifying him again.

@lu_sichu revealed preference

@ctbeiser ? did anyone say they shouldn't? modeling great power geopolitics does require a bit of understanding about their leaders

every world leader should read the sequences to understand the AI ecosystem

@tenobrus if the technology is proliferated, there's no reason to keep it protected. if k3 was meaningfully superior to Claude rather than almost tied then maybe there would be a case against allowing release. but even if it was obviously a bit better, that's what—a lead for two months?

people are saying a lot of things in response to this that still don't make sense to me - "commoditize your compliment" that only works if you are in fact capturing the value, as far as i can tell it doesn't meaningfully apply to models. moonshot as an inference provider for kimi is undifferentiated or even worse than others running exactly the same model. open source labs capture none of the value - "xi doesn't believe in ai risk / hasn't read hpmor" sure i mean i didn't fucking think he did lol. but there is clear already proven cyber warfare capability, and beyond that if a technology is an accelerant to ur country then you don't want competitors to have access to it purely on very normal tech grounds. u don't have to worry about nanobot xrisk to not sell ur latest fighter jet tech to other militaries. - "this is what china does, they sell cheap knockoffs to take economic power away from the americans" but in fact they aren't selling anything, they're giving away an artifact that lets everyone else reap the gains. maybe it's true that this *reduces lab valuations*, and generally i can absolutely see the angle that it *reduces american differentiated power* since the frontier american labs can no longer deny frontier intelligence to non american companies.... but china would benefit much more here by *being the only other country* who also has this power rather than fully leveling the playing field . - "something something soft power and image" yeah i mean maybe. it's not that i can't see it. it's just tough to see how image meaningfully changes if new very powerful models are locked behind an api? what a few ai devs on twitter like china better? doesn't seem like the kind of thing xi cares about, and if he does it seems clear it would be outweighed pretty fast once the concrete economic benefits become big enough - "it introduces chinese ecosystems and ideologies around the globe" idk man like maybe but only if they've added some really well hidden secret triggers yknow? k3 still claims to be claude and has basically claude's cluster of western opinions . so the claim here would have to be secret sabotage, and even that is just not that hard for someone to eventually detect and then publicly announce plus tune out

registering confusion: i don't really understand why Xi is still allowing Kimi to release such powerful open models. this is something i've publicly said i expect to stop soon. it doesn't make sense to me that the CCP would want open frontier capability easily available to other countries. it could still be that Xi is asleep at the wheel, or that K3 is just a cycle of capability behind where they start to take serious notice. but if things don't change soon then i'm just wrong / missing something.

@DeepDishEnjoyer anthropic got superhuman persuasion working internally so they're bombing the datacenters

is there a chance this is AI related? and insiders have been selling off tech stocks?

@TetraspaceWest that man can't read

@ctbeiser Does Pete Hegseth read Lesswrong?

the funniest commentary on this site is always when people think Xi Jinping reads LessWrong

@yuwen_lu_ I have two apps both called ChatGPT now… i'm genuinely confused

im genuinely confused if i have the wrong app

After the update, I cannot find Codex in the desktop app any more

@isaacinthesky i've never seen a product that needs a PM (or a designer) more than the one the quoted guy works on

> i know people will get mad and PMs will say that they add value and they really need to circle back and sync with different teams if you think this is what a product manager does you're ngmi i think lol

@cwervo @kelin_online overhead thermal camera with projector that tells me if my food is going to burn

I’m thinking of building either a handheld camera (a la @kelin_online & @wormyrocks’ Poetry Camera) or a handheld projector that colors objects via the thermal camera (a la @FolkComputer)

I know @Maxbittker

you guys were using the algorithm?

@tianklr i still think it's fair though to describe it as a landlord special because he didn't strip the paint and it makes it lumpy

this is the american version of european slime mold art, it assumes culture is a petri dish/trash can where value comes from whatever accumulates on its own, not from deliberate cultivation

@noah_putnam david foster wallace wrote about this

“Wabi sabi” he cries to himself over and over again looking at the scuff marks on his brand new yohji pants

@quasicoh yeah but his top number is up 50% over the last few months...

@ctbeiser My son can only count up to 3 :(

according to a recent article in the atlantic kids don't know how to count now

@willdepue in fact, it's best if it's hard, it makes it harder to replicate.

when i was there people kept trying to unship message editing because it was "hard for engineering". like guys, your job is to make the best experience possible for the user, who fucking cares whats easier for you. i almost pulled my hair out having this argument 5 diff times

i really miss being able to edit past messages in codex other than just the last. it makes no sense why i have to branch a chat to continue it

@SALTWATERSOPH noUwUmena

Sure, fanged noumena. But what if the noumena is a little fuzzy

@sonyasupposedly They're saying that Mr. Fixit is a reasonable fox, but sometimes reasonable foxes are forced to do unreasonable things...

Busytown needs to suspend everybody's driver's licenses until they can figure out what is going on