@dapper150@ProvidenceBelis Invention of the computer was uniquely thought of by an indivisual agent using previous inventions that were uniquely thought of by another indivisual agent.
Slavery was something the globe collectively did together.
@dapper150@ProvidenceBelis A closer related example to help your short-sighted thought process would be:
The inventor of the computer contributed to the invention of the AI or VR
@HindustanDefend@ProvidenceBelis race-based slavery was a branch off of slavery, original slavery was credited to sub-saharans, therefore race based slavery should be credited to sub-Saharans (;
@dapper150@ProvidenceBelis And I'm being lenient and granting you a full indirect rather than a partial because without Indian mathematicians the computer algorithms wouldnt have happened.
@dapper150@ProvidenceBelis So they did contribute. Wtf are you talking about.
Indirect vs Direct
Indirect: White man uses Indian mathematical formulas/discoveries to make Invention A
Direct: White man shits on street (No other agent was required)
@HindustanDefend@ProvidenceBelis they didn’t contribute to the invention, they contributed to the foundations of things used within the invention, not the invention itself
@HindustanDefend@ProvidenceBelis so you’ve just gone back on your claim again, “X caused Y, Y caused Z, X invented Z, and X should be credited with Z” is wrong.
@dapper150@ProvidenceBelis Is this bait? I said IF (Hypothetically) they did contribute then yes.
Arab, Chinese, Indians need credit. In order for X to happen A must happen.
@HindustanDefend@ProvidenceBelis I agree that they invented pre-historic inventions, not modern ones, therefore they should not be credited with the modern ones, this has been my position since the start, you on the other hand, have changed it many times.
@HindustanDefend@ProvidenceBelis no lol, you made a claim that they should be CREDITED for modern white inventions, now you’ve changed that claim, so we agree.
@HindustanDefend@ProvidenceBelis good then we agree, finally, earlier you said they should be credited for the white inventions, glad you changed your mind.
@dapper150@ProvidenceBelis Wheels aren't a passed on invention by Sub-Saharans.
Due to it being a universal invention.
Also when the fuck did I say Desi, Chinese or Arabs are the inventors of Western inventions???
I'm making the claim that in order for those inventions to occur it required those people
@HindustanDefend@ProvidenceBelis “ The wheel led to carts.
Carts led to automobiles.
Therefore the inventors of the wheel invented the automobile” or “X caused Y, Y caused Z, therefore X invented Z” ahh argument 😂
@HindustanDefend@CoryAdam12@ProvidenceBelis “X causes B” i agree with, I have no issue, you are adding a separate claim, “the people involved with X, should be credited for B, even though B was done by other people” give me objective justification for that claim
@dapper150@CoryAdam12@ProvidenceBelis I dont see the point in debating universal logic. Also I did provide the proof if you knew what equations were.
1+1 isnt going to become 4
Im gonna grant that in a hypothetical universe where I believed in cause and effect but didnt provide the equation. I'm still correct lmao
@HindustanDefend@ProvidenceBelis I know X leads to B, I’m asking what’s your grounding for why “the people involved with X should be credited for B” that’s a claim which needs justification.
@dapper150@ProvidenceBelis You're attacking a nothing burger sub-saharans didnt contribute shit to any limited inventions.
Also again I'm gonna grant this parallel universe again.
Invention X lead to Invention B.
@HindustanDefend@CoryAdam12@ProvidenceBelis again, saying “logic” is the equivalent of saying “it just is” I’m asking why your position is true, what grounds it, just saying “logic” isn’t an answer, + what’s your grounding for why your analogy is objectively true?
@dapper150@CoryAdam12@ProvidenceBelis Logic?
Logical analogy:
If I'm in a math project and I come up with an advanced equation that was uniquely thought of via a unique mind to prove X but Billy over here figures out 1+1=2 it's not a contribution as it's innate.