defence2attack

Thread of Threads, gonna put all my main tweets here and pin to profile

@NeelPankhania Overall career - are they in the debate for best in their position all time?

@defence2attack Also depends on how you look at it. Is it just big names because of what they did at club level or their overall impact at every stage of their career? Di Maria has been the most impactful player for Argentina after Messi. He was crucial in 2014, 2021 Copa and 2022 WC

All-timer* players in WC-winning squads *Debatable best in position 22: 🇦🇷 Messi 18: 🇫🇷 Mbappe 14: 🇩🇪 Neuer, Hummels, Lahm, Kroos 10: 🇪🇸 Casillas, Puyol, Ramos, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta 06: 🇮🇹 Buffon, Nesta, Cannavaro 02: 🇧🇷 Carlos, Cafu, Kaka, Ronaldinho, Nazario, Rivaldo

@LenoblePierre2 In a debate for Best in their position all time

@defence2attack Ha bah ce cas là je trouve que tu oublie beaucoup de joueurs pour chaque équipe Di Maria Kanté Griezmann Schweinsteiger Muller Pique Alonso Silva Villa Gattuso Totti Pirlo Del Piero Et je vais pas faire toutes les équipes mais je serais curieux de voir tes critères de "légende"

@Vatae157577 Undeserved in 2018 Could name 10-15 players better

@defence2attack He's even better all time career wise lol he finished 3rd twice in the Ballon D'or during the Messi Ronaldo era

@RanghaWasTaken Overrated

@defence2attack Puyol but not Pique while Pique was a better player? Lol

@Vatae157577 It’s based on all-time career not on the tournament performance Though his tournament performance only has 1 G/A from open play and it was a deflection

@defence2attack Griezmann up there for France in 2018

@PletsasHellas Close but not enough for that level

@defence2attack Kante has to be wtf.

@atuguba92 @MichaelMoelbaek 1 from open play

@defence2attack @MichaelMoelbaek “Griezmann (post-2016) is constantly rated for his defensive work more than he is for his attacking play” Defensive work is not a good thing for a midfielder now? What was the GA contribution in that tournament? Just confirm for me

@SPORTSBIGGIE Even if that falsehood were true That means nothing in the context of this tweet If I did it for 2022 Portugal, Ronaldo would be there despite playing like hot garbage It’s “all-timer players outside the tournament” not “played like an all-timer in the tournament”

Please Mbappe was the 4th best players in that French team. Griezmann,Kante,Pogba performed better than him

@atuguba92 @MichaelMoelbaek For an attacking player, it’s different to a midfield player Griezmann (post-2016) is constantly rated for his defensive work more than he is for his attacking play

@defence2attack @MichaelMoelbaek So a player who doesn’t create many assists or score a lot from open play is basically shit? Did u really say Rice is mid? Do u know no one would have criticized if he had won the award of best player in England? Check for Modric’s G/A that won him the golden ball in 2018.

@funnywalkinboi @tentenbull @daveamarcus Actually a negative on the ball

@funnywalkinboi @tentenbull @daveamarcus Varane was a bit too reliant on his speed and not a difference maker on ball

@Vinixty9x Puyol was an aggressive CB, good man-marker and dueler and held his own when football developed and his sides became more about pressing and passing Pique had the talent to be better but never really showed the performances outside of sporadic elite campaigns

@defence2attack How is puyol all timer but not pique

@funnywalkinboi @KamenEntchev Varane and Pique both carried by their club trophies

@defence2attack @KamenEntchev If Hummels and Puyol are there, Varane, Pique should all get in. Ramos is not an all timer RB either.

@funnywalkinboi @rln99_LFC Marquez was a better ball player than pique was Pique was a less progressive passer than umtiti during his time at Barca Hummels is the best Cb in possession of this century

@defence2attack @rln99_LFC Hummels is not considerably better than Pique on the ball. Pique was even better than Ramos for the National team.

@LenoblePierre2 Neither Irrespective of the competition or performance Just based on name alone even if they didn’t play 1min of football

@defence2attack Pour toi tu cites les joueurs all-time présents dans cette équipe, ou les joueurs qui avaient un niveau all-time durant la compétition ?

@NeelPankhania All-timer forward? The standards are pretty high for that position I don’t think Di Maria is in best forward ever debates

@defence2attack Di Maria is an all timer mate

@jaganshiei Just about top 10 for me I know it’s a bit out there as a take but he was a pretty flawless CB for close to 15 years

@defence2attack I really don't think Hummels is a top 10 all time CB.

@tentenbull @daveamarcus He was also at Madrid when they faced Bayern or City

@defence2attack @daveamarcus United is a retirement club lol.

@tentenbull @daveamarcus He was a pressing trigger at United

@defence2attack @daveamarcus Varane couldn’t pass the ball. 🤣🤣 Go back to sleep.

@tentenbull @daveamarcus Varane couldn’t pass the ball, in an era where build up play was of supreme importance - he always needed his hand held in build up And he couldn’t lead a defence either, always relied on Ramos to the aggressive step out defender and he could rely on his recover pace Overrated

@defence2attack @daveamarcus Of course he did. He had a better level. And his 2018 year alone (his solidity in champions league and his oustanding world cup) is better than Hummels whole career.