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@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 If that's the excuse, what's the reason?

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 You are wrong. My argument also does not rest on what they feel (they all want Palestinians eliminated for example) but on what Israel's constant bombing of neighbors is sold as no matter how unrealistic. It's delusional to imagine Greater Israel as a real thing it's an excuse.

“…of course it was in the national interest, there’s always been a US national interest in getting rid of Iran.” ———— Look, you can make a strong case that Trump wasn’t “duped” into this war. And for the most part I agree. I think Trump is a narcissistic egomaniac. I think that renders him extremely vulnerable to manipulation. I think his long history of executive decision making based solely on who flatters him at any given time is proof of that. But at the end of the day he’s a grown ass man who is 100% responsible for his own actions. So I don’t give him any passes on this war. With that said, this is just a grossly dishonest argument by Finkelstein. Our own military has routinely advised against entering a war with Iran bc of the damage it will inflict on our military. Every economic advisor on the planet has warned of the apocalyptic dangers of an energy crisis like what we are about to experience because of this war with Iran. No sane person not personally/financially tied to the country of Israel has ever claimed a war with Iran is in America’s interest. That is complete hogwash. This war, which Trump ultimately entered into of his own volition, is for the sole benefit of Israel. Period. Which is why Benjamin Netanyahu came to the US a record SIX times in Trump’s first year back in order to sell it to Trump. Idk what Finkelstein’s end game is here but this is highly suspect commentary.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 You are totally wrong. A majority of Israel feels this way.

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 The narrative is low IQ nation building. More than half the population of Israel laughs at that. The crazies tend to be motivated fighters like in Ukraine.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Okay. And whats the iran war about?

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 And yes, adding basically about 80% of what Saudi Arabia was already producing to the Petrodollar meant the world was locked into US hegemony for a few more decades.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Yeah, it's not really something we're supposed to know about.

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 This "Greater Israel" stuff is not even something they need westerners to believe, it's what they want their crazies to believe.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Was it low IQ and not a problem when the Nazis were talking like this? You also bring up another problem. The people with violent rhetoric who are STILL committing a genocide have the backing of a superpower!? Doesnt that seem odd? Surly there's a better way to control oil?

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 It doesn't matter, it's low IQ state building. I refuse to take it seriously. In fact the whole thing is a joke: we need this superpower that gives us everything to helps us become a superpower. Ridiculous any way you cut it. Look beyond what they want you to believe.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Saudi Arabia is clearly with America and didn't like Sadam.

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 It also knocked Saudi Arabia down a peg with that output that almost matched its own.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 It is not a fringe opinion. Netanyahu talks about this. x.com/i/status/20374…

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 I cannot with the "Greater Israel" to me that is just a silly talking point for some crazies in Israel. 7 million people are supposed to what? take over hundreds of million in mostly desert?

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Other one is not readable. Hopefully, this one works.

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Don't need to ask anything leading but ask for both the strategic position of the US changing after the invasion (and how) and what corporate America (focus on oil if you what) got out of it.

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@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Okay, I understand. There is more than just money. Also, another thing to keep in mind is threats and intimidation. It can't be easy to go against power and the herd. America is a gangster country, after all.

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 You fund their campaigns, you bribe them personally even, you gift them things, take them to events etc. Kind of like pharma lobbying works with doctors but there the quid pro quo is more direct in what they prescribe.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 I actually agree that AI can have useful applications. But you need to be careful because when you ask AI leading questions, it can just kind of grab 10 different articles and mash together an answer, never mind bias. I will ask my favourite AI, but I will craft the question.

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Just got to your favorite AI and ask them to tell you what US corporations got out of the war. They made an absolute killing and that war was not even about the oil per se it was about weakening a regional power that started acting independently.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 I agree it's not quid pro quo at all. That's why it's corrupt. I think i get what you mean, but I want to be sure. What do you mean by socialisation?

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 It's not quid pro quo at all. That's not how the political class works, they require socializing into certain positions that the empire prefers, it's not ad hoc voting.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Thats true. The Zionist lobby bribes the politicians legally. And in return these politicians support Israel unconditionally. Becouse anti Israel guys ain't giving them money. This includes huge amounts of public money (meaning American tax money) to Israel as aid. Very ugly.

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 The US gives Israel far more than what is poured into the lobby and a lot of that is turned back to corporate America, Zionist and non-Zionist owned corporations alike. The Lobby is best understood as an arm of the media. It's social engineering but for politicians.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Israel is taking a beating, but you need to understand that for the plan of greater Israel, the vigilant and powerful hegemon of the Middle East Iran MUST be brought down. If Iran is still there, Israel will never grow.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Yes, the beating was predictable. But Israel launched the war and forced America's hand as stated by Marco rubio, which the administration now denies. Now Israel is taking a beating, but so is American infrastructure, and Americans are the ones putting boots on the ground. Cont:

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 I would be happy to share this with you. But even better is this video if you have time. If you do not let me know, i would be happy to explain it. m.youtube.com/watch?v=zeloY3…

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Maybe you should look up how the US controlled the entire flow of payments and what US energy corporations got out of that invasion.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 "amounts of what is circulating there" Amounts of cash do you mean, sorry?

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 The amounts that are circulating there are just pitiful in the grand scheme of things to pretend that it is anything more than a managerial elite shaping operation through legalized bribery.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Okay, I didn't see it, but I believe you. The West has, in general, been growing more authoritarian. I do, however, feel like the Israel situation is more of a non-negotiable rather than a disposable tool like Ukraine. Ukraine is a way for the West to push east against Russia.

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 They tried to elevate Ukraine to this position where no dissent is acceptable and you can't do anything about it. But I do not see people losing jobs over it in the US like they did over Israel. They didn't go that extra step. In Europe they did by sanctioning some individuals.

@wob6le2 @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 Okay then. Did you know that the oil lobby was against the Iraq war?

@dildorthewise @Villgecrazylady @perkins_tp56 What I mean by skirmishes is one power center pulling harder at one point in time, they all have immediate interests attached, like any one action spurs all sorts of contracts. But overall the general direction of the US empire is solid, everyone has to agree on the big picture.