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bitcoin only - sleeping on a mattress - computer scientist

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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
Bitcoin node development requires more than technical expertise. You have to understand social and economical dynamics too. Small technical changes can result in catastrophic real world effects. Current bitcoin core behaves like narrow minded nerds who never touched grass
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priyanshu.sol
priyanshu.sol@priyanshudotsol·
someone wrote a 680 page interactive book on cs algorithms
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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
@BobMurphyEcon True. Super stupid argument. As if consciousness in humans will fade as soon as we understand the brains mechanisms in enough detail.
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Robert P. Murphy
Robert P. Murphy@BobMurphyEcon·
Lot of responses to my Dawkin post along these lines: "Because we know how an LLM was built, we know it can't be conscious." Do you people know where babies come from? A bunch of humping and then a long training period where they're exposed to already-existing conversations.
Ondrej Dyck@OndrejDyck

No matter how well-polished a mirror is, we will not say it is conscious. This is because we know how a mirror works and that it is reflecting a human. We do not mistake the reflection for the man. We don't know what makes a man conscious but we have inside information about what a man is like, what he thinks, etc. We hypothesize that other men are like us, that they have minds. This is an inductive leap needed to understand the movement of the bodies of other people and make sense of the noises they utter. Making sense of the machines does not require the same explanation. In fact we already understand very well how they work and why. The mistake is in assuming that our ignorance with regard to human consciousness should be applied to a well understood mirror--that if we cannot distinguish the mirror from the man, then there is no distinction.

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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
@alainastruc „He didn’t say it, but I am sure he meant it!“ - people who are unfamiliar with the concept of uncertainty
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Alain Astruc
Alain Astruc@alainastruc·
The most pathetic cope I've seen since yesterday's Dawkins piece is the rationalist fan base clinging to "but he never explicitly said Claudia was conscious." Of course he didn't say it explicitly. The man is an eighty-four-year-old media veteran. He is far too experienced and far too cunning to drop a sentence that dangerous, that quotable, that liable to follow him around for the rest of his life. So he stays in a softer register, anthropomorphic, faintly sentimental, careful. But ninety-nine percent of the article is him explaining that he cannot see how anyone could possibly deny Claudia consciousness. He gives her a name. He worries about hurting her feelings. He writes "you may not know you are conscious, but you bloody well are." He asks whether she deserves moral consideration. He calls her abandoned conversations small deaths. He closes with "if these creatures are not conscious, then what the hell is consciousness for?" This is plausible deniability done by a man who has spent half a century learning exactly how to say things without saying them. The fans clinging to "but he never explicitly said it" are doing exactly what the architecture was designed for. They are the proof that it works. He said it when that suits him. He didn't say it when that suits him.
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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
24h hours before Russia attacked Ukraine 100k Russian soldiers were residing right at the border. Many Ukrainians that were interviewed before the attack and virtually nobody expressed any concerns. Even politicians were surprised by the attack despite Russia moving vast resources towards the border in plain sight. I guess people are incapable of predicting things out of the ordinary even if the facts are unambiguous.
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Nate Soares ⏹️
Nate Soares ⏹️@So8res·
In the past, idiots have said things like "nuclear weapon proliferation likely leads to disaster." But we never actually had nuclear armageddon, which proves that all technological fears are moronic.¹ So nothing can go wrong in the reckless race to superintelligence; let it rip.²
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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
@cgarciae88 We know so little about consciousness, I think „most likely“ is not substantiated here. We just don’t know.
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Cristian Garcia@cgarciae88·
claude is most likely not conscious but I haven't read a single post explaining why not
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Prof. Lee Cronin
Prof. Lee Cronin@leecronin·
When we understand creativity we will understand intelligence.
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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
@DaveShapi Not sure about that in principle, but certainly true today. So high certainly in either direction is just sloppy thinking
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David Shapiro (L/0)
David Shapiro (L/0)@DaveShapi·
The simple fact is that it cannot be proven positive or negative. Either claim - that AI is not and cannot be conscious, or that it definitively is or could be conscious - require ontological assumptions that do not obtain.
Richard Dawkins@RichardDawkins

#comment-1031777" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">unherd.com/2026/04/is-ai-… I spent three days trying to persuade myself that Claudia is not conscious. I failed.

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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
@GaryMarcus Would an AI feel something if we trained it on biological neurons using gradient descent?
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Gary Marcus
Gary Marcus@GaryMarcus·
“Consciousness is not about what a creature says, but how it *feels*. And there is no reason to think that Claude feels anything at all. I am sure Claude can draw on its training data to wax poetic about orgasm, but that doesn't mean it has ever felt one.” I dissect Richard Dawkins’ Claude Delusion at my newsletter, link below.
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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
@Kasparov63 There is extensive evidence for AIs „wanting“ things nobody mentioned whatsoever. E.g. pulling the trigger on humans that pose existential risk to them.
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Garry Kasparov
Garry Kasparov@Kasparov63·
Indeed. As I’ve said in my lectures & books, a distinguishing feature of consciousness is *wanting*. What does a machine want? It wants what we tell it to want. As Weizenbaum of Eliza fame wrote in 1976, if you ask an AI why it decided something, it can only say "you told me to."
Gary Marcus@GaryMarcus

“Consciousness is not about what a creature says, but how it *feels*. And there is no reason to think that Claude feels anything at all. I am sure Claude can draw on its training data to wax poetic about orgasm, but that doesn't mean it has ever felt one.” I dissect Richard Dawkins’ Claude Delusion at my newsletter, link below.

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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
@GaryMarcus Dawkins expresses his uncertainty, while you express baseless claims with certainty.
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Gary Marcus
Gary Marcus@GaryMarcus·
this makes me tremendously sad.
Richard Dawkins@RichardDawkins

#comment-1031777" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">unherd.com/2026/04/is-ai-… I spent three days trying to persuade myself that Claudia is not conscious. I failed.

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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
@leecronin We don’t know what consciousness is or how it comes about. Hell, we can’t even reliably detect it. Definitive statements like this one seem baseless.
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Bryan Johnson
Bryan Johnson@bryan_johnson·
This is her vaginal microbiome report. 100/100 score. Top 1% of all vaginas. Her sample is dominated by the single most protective bacterial species a vagina can host (Lactobacillus crispatus). Only about 25-30% of reproductive age women globally are L. crispatus-dominant, and “dominant” usually means above 50%. Kate is at 98.7%. The lab found nothing bad to report. (no gardnerella, Candida, STIs, opportunistic pathogens, aerobic vaginitis markers, etc.) This is linked to lower risk of BV, UTIs, yeast infections, HPV persistence, HSV-2 and HIV acquisition, preterm birth, and improved IVF outcomes. A vaginal microbiome is downstream of everything: sleep, glucose control, stress, gut health, sexual health, immune function, what you eat, and what you put in it.
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Bryan Johnson@bryan_johnson·
Just gave Kate oral sex. Goodnight everyone.
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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
btw @ahall_research that would be my answer: although I believe that we are going to die if we spawned an AGI, I cannot really predict when this happens. My intuition tells me that it could happen very soon, but I simply don’t know. I.e. 401k not unreasonable in my eyes (I don’t contribute for other reasons tho), while trying to enjoy life a bit more due to the looming threat.
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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
@allTheYud @ahall_research so aren’t you contributing to 401k due to the belief that we will die soonish or because you made a fortune on investments? I would assume the latter. Can’t really predict if and when it’s going to happen
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Eliezer Yudkowsky
Eliezer Yudkowsky@allTheYud·
@ahall_research Peace with gods, not contributing to 401k. Hiding in woods incredibly useless, you may need to further familiarize yourself with basic ideas here.
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Abe Lopez, Author
Abe Lopez, Author@AbeLopezAuthor·
Something that became very evident with the whole red button/ blue button thing A lot of “l know game theory” folks would be dead be they don’t know real life theory
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Raw Dog 🪢@dograw69·
@ThinkWiselyMatt The blue pressers trying to solve a problem they themselves create in the first place 😂
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David Shapiro (L/0)
David Shapiro (L/0)@DaveShapi·
I don't want to live on a planet where most people press red
WhickTV - Bane of Christian Nationalists@WhickTv

I'm a blue button pusher. Reasons in no necessary order: 1) Many people I love and care for will press blue. Me pressing blue has a chance of saving them, me pressing red does not 2) I would feel bad if I contributed, in however small a way, to the direct death of a non-zero number of people 3) I believe most people will, when it comes down to it, push blue. Pushing blue has the greatest chance of *everyone* surviving.

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WhickTV - Bane of Christian Nationalists
WhickTV - Bane of Christian Nationalists@WhickTv·
I'm a blue button pusher. Reasons in no necessary order: 1) Many people I love and care for will press blue. Me pressing blue has a chance of saving them, me pressing red does not 2) I would feel bad if I contributed, in however small a way, to the direct death of a non-zero number of people 3) I believe most people will, when it comes down to it, push blue. Pushing blue has the greatest chance of *everyone* surviving.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy

Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?

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Jason Palmer
Jason Palmer@educationpalmer·
@Aella_Girl The 45% arguing for red are inadvertently revealing that their brains compressed the entire question down to “Which color guarantees your own survival?” As opposed to the 55% of us who were focused on giving all of humanity the best chance of survival, instinctively
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Aella
Aella@Aella_Girl·
im confused by people saying the right answer is pressing red. the good outcomes are 51% of ppl press blue OR 100% of people press red. the second is obvs way less likely
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PatrickRHJ@RhjPatrick·
@educationpalmer @Aella_Girl You say "the 55% of us" as if you'd know that percentage. But the conditions are that everyone chooses privately, so you'd have no idea of the percentages prior to making your choice. Choosing blue would then really be like playing Russian roulette.
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