Dzenez

@ayatr0llah He sounds very feminine lol

Legit sounds insanely feeble compared to his pops. If he’s damaged goods wonder how the public will even be able to take him seriously. SL role is probably toast

I have to say I strongly disagree with analysis that implies that Iran was on a path to eventual normalisation with the West and that these decapitations have pushed them into a further hardline position. That’s cope. War or not, Iran’s regime only had one path regardless.

“This reveals a peculiar form of racism on the Left. If you are Middle Eastern, you are not permitted to criticise the Palestinian cause; you must join the struggle. Iranians have increasingly been subjected to this kind of racialised thinking, though it is often disguised by adding the word ‘diaspora’, which magically transforms prejudice into a supposedly progressive stance. Iranians, in this worldview, must behave in a particular way because they have been assigned a specific group identity. If they deviate, it is said that they ‘want to be white’.” From my @CapX column capx.co/why-does-the-l…

There are some ossified bits of Iran analysis that seem totally impervious to reassessment, and they're coming out again after Larijani's reported assassination From 'the system is bigger than one man, it was designed to handle losses' (surely it didn't anticipate the scale of losses we've seen since June) To 'this will empower more hardline figures' (they were already calling the shots, and analysis of what the hardliners *want* to do often fails to consider what they *can* do with Iran's greatly diminished capacity) I don't know what will happen to the Islamic republic after the war, none of us do, but there's too much analysis that applies a rigid pre-2023 view of the regime and fails to account for the truly unprecedented events that have happened since

با تشکر از متن شما، اما دو نکته: ۱. به نظر می‌رسه بخش قابل‌توجهی از جامعه روشنفکری ایران اساساً توانایی فکر کردن خارج از چارچوب چپ غربی رو نداره؛ دنیا رو صرفاً از همون زاویه می‌بینه و حتی جرأت مخالفت با اون رو هم نداره، چون نگران قضاوت و طرد شدن از همون فضاست ۲. متأسفانه بخش بزرگی از این قشر یا به نوعی طرفدار جمهوری اسلامی هست یا حداقل با بخشی از سیاست‌هاش همدلی داره. این سطحی‌نگری و حمله به در و دیوار هم دقیقاً از همین‌جا میاد. دلش با رژیمه، ولی روش نمی‌شه علناً بگه، برای همین با ژست روشنفکری دورش می‌زنه

فعالانی که جامعه ایران را به دو دسته خارج‌نشینان جنگ‌طلب و ایرانی‌های جنگ‌زده تقسیم می‌کنند، یک حقیقت ساده را عامدانه نادیده می‌گیرند: اینکه انبوه کسانی که از جنگ حمایت کردند، در داخل ایران بودند. (البته با قطعی کانال‌های ارتباطی در داخل، به سختی می‌توان سنجید واقعیت جنگ چه تاثیری بر این نگاه گذاشته است.) بدنه روشنفکری ایران باید بپذیرد «جنگ‌طلبان» خود بخشی از جامعه ایران هستند، نه مشکلی از بیرون. بدنه روشنفکری ایران اگر می‌خواهد این بخش از جامعه ایران را با خود همراه کند، باید راه‌حلی غیر از حمله خارجی پیش پای این بخش از جامعه بگذارد. این بخش از جامعه ایران، کوچک یا بزرگ، حس می‌کند در ۴۷ سال گذشته همه شیوه‌های ممکن را آزموده است؛ حس می‌کند به اندازه کافی صبوری کرده و هزینه داده است. اگر بدنه روشنفکری معتقد است که گذار به دموکراسی به زمان بیشتری نیاز دارد، باید راه پیش‌رو را به روشنی ترسیم کند. جامعه روشنفکری ایران یک بار دیگر، به جای پذیرش واقعیتی که در جامعه ایران به وجود آمده، به جنگ آن رفته است؛ به جای اینکه ریشه این رویکرد تازه را بررسی کند، به جنگ رسانه‌ها و افرادی رفته که بازتاب‌دهنده این نگاه هستند؛ به جای اینکه ریشه مشکل را در حاکمیت جمهوری اسلامی دنبال کند، روی سیاست‌های آمریکا و اسرائیل و رهبران آنها متمرکز شده است. در این برهه، نه بیانیه‌های سیاسی ضدجنگ و نه دل‌نوشته‌های سوزناک می‌توانند این دوقطبی به‌وجودآمده در جامعه ایران را بشکنند. جامعه روشنفکری باید از کپی‌برداری مفاهیم و ادبیات ضدجنگ چپ جهانی دست بردارد و گفتمانی ارائه دهد که جامعه ایرانی را اقناع کند. حقیقت این است که در نگاه بخشی از جامعه ایران، محکومیت جنگ بدون اینکه راه‌حل دیگری برای برقراری دموکراسی در ایران پیشنهاد کند، به معنای طرفداری از وضعیت موجود و جمهوری اسلامی است. جامعه روشنفکری باید روشن بگوید مخالفتش با جنگ ریشه در کدام‌یک از این مسائل دارد: ۱) قربانی شدن افرادی که نمی‌خواستند درگیر مبارزه سیاسی شوند ۲) این باور که جنگ به فروپاشی جمهوری اسلامی منجر نمی‌شود ۳) این باور که جنگ به قدرت گرفتن آلترناتیوی می‌انجامد که آنها معتقدند می‌تواند از جمهوری اسلامی خطرناک‌تر باشد به نظر می‌رسد حداقل بخشی از بدنه روشنفکری ایران، دلیل سوم را در قالب استدلالی اول و دوم ارائه می‌کند. این عدم صداقت استدلالی، قدرت اقناعی را کم می‌کند. بدنه روشنفکری ایران همچنین باید افکار عمومی این بخش از جامعه را قانع کند که مخالفتش با جنگ، ریشه در بهره بردن این طبقه از بقای جمهوری اسلامی ندارد.

I’m confident “inbred” describes your family better than mine. Our ears are full of this nonsense. Your account says you are in United States. your English proficiency seemed to match. In any case you are one of those vile regime agents and if you are inside the country I sure hope one of those Israeli bombs finds you soon and if you are outside hopefully we can find you and kick you out as soon as possible.

@drZenez @RezaZiaEbrahimi @jadaliyya As usual, you barandaz clowns lose on substance and try to make up for it with your imagined guesses of people’s personal lives.

Why do Iranian monarchists cheer #Israel's #genocide of #Palestinians—even when Israeli bombs fall on #Iran? The answer is: 'dislocative nationalism', internalised #racism and #Islamophobia and a self-defeating pursuit of #whiteness. jadaliyya.com/Details/46906 via @jadaliyya

@drZenez Western journos love the idea of the Islamic Republic as this incredibly sophisticated "institutional" regime when at the end of the day it's just your bog-standard security state with some clerical window dressing

Oh fuck you regime supporting scum. You bring up Israel policies toward their neighbors but your IQ is too low to understand Iran isn’t Israel’s neighbor you dumbass! I’m also not the one who thinks of west as “Zionist empire” or whatever so me living here doesn’t make me a hypocrite you moron!

@drZenez @RezaZiaEbrahimi @jadaliyya Israel was Israel long before 1979. Your ignorance doesn’t change reality. Obviously my life has nothing to do with it, but if you want to go down that path, go to Iran and fight the Iranian system and eat less shit on X.

You keep presenting the article as something other than what it actually is. You ignore most of it ( the unfair attacks on the opposition meant to portray them as inauthentic the conclusion that conveniently aligns with the regime’s ideology), just so you can arrive at a position that feels defensible to you. Of course it’s obvious that I never claimed this one article caused the war but the ideology behind it, the same ideology that the regime has forced on our nation for decades and that has shaped its policies. The “repressive forces” here are the regime’s own forces, which for 47 years have tried to impose this line of thinking on the Iranian people. There is literally no connection between Iran and the Palestinian issue. There is also no connection between the sanctions (which were brought on by the regime’s own stupid policies ) and Palestinian claims to land.

@drZenez @RezaZiaEbrahimi @jadaliyya And no, I don’t think observing that the same oppressive forces are at work in Palestine and Iran is taking sides. Or if it is I think pretty much the whole world is taking that “side”, which to me is moreso just basic observation of world events.

lol an article that presents regime’s opposition as pathological and inauthentic and reaches a conclusion that essentially justifies the foundation of their ideology is not “taking sides”??? Also it was you who brought up 1950s and I responded with relevant set of facts. How is that straining hard? I just suspect you ran out of argument so you decided to insult me despite my attempt to remain as respectful as possible. It’s ok I forgive you کوچولو

@drZenez @RezaZiaEbrahimi @jadaliyya Ok buddy - I was just saying I think articles can observe and diagnose the roots of conflict without “taking sides” or rooting on the conflict as you’re straining so hard to depict here. I think you’re bringing a lot to this article and it’s clouding your view azizam.

47 years ago your regime started on this path and aimed to destroy to Israel in their rhetoric and their actions. If this is your justification and this is how you see Israel then again you wanted this war and not us. Go fight it now instead of comfortably living in the west and contributing to Israel’s side with your tax money.

@drZenez @RezaZiaEbrahimi @jadaliyya You cannot seriously be so obtuse as to believe that a state that was founded on ethnic cleansing and ever-expanding borders, built the Samson option, and planned on destroying the states around it for decades per the Yinon Plan, PNAC, etc. was "fighting back" against Iran.

I can’t possibly read his article the way you claim. He is clearly saying that Iranian “liberation” goes through Palestine. Liberation from what exactly? Certainly not from the regime, which aligns so well with his views. I’m not sure if you are Iranian or familiar with the Islamic Republic’s rhetoric, but this is almost a direct repetition of the regime’s own justification for its proxies, violence, and repressive ideology, all supposedly in the service of “liberating” Iran from Western “imperialism.”

@drZenez @RezaZiaEbrahimi @jadaliyya I went back and scanned the piece in good faith and I think that’s a [somewhat predictable] misread of his point, which to me is, in his words, that: “The same frameworks justifying Palestinian subjugation rationalised Israel's bombing of Iranian cities.” Do you disagree?

Oh ok, the typical “the regime is anti-American because of 1953” take again. I’m supposed to believe they hate the U.S. because of Mossadegh, when in reality they don’t give a damn about him. His grave is abandoned, and regime narratives constantly try to portray Kashani as the main figure behind oil nationalization instead. The real problem is that you’ve absorbed so many of their narratives (and the ones repeated by Western leftists) that I’m not sure meaningful communication between us is even possible. But since you at least expressed interest in understanding our perspective, let me address a few points: 1.Iran wasn’t a democracy in the 1940s, and Mossadegh was not the liberal reformer he is often portrayed as. He pardoned the assassin of former PM Razmara, interfered with elections when he realized he might lose, censored the media, and ultimately shut down the Majlis. 2.Claiming that 1979 happened because of 1953 is extremely speculative. Iranian intellectual Ahmad Kasravi was already warning in the 1930s that clerics could eventually come to power. 3.The Islamic Republic itself doesn’t care about Mossadegh. As mentioned above, they barely acknowledge him and often try to rewrite the history of oil nationalization. 4.Even if we accept the 1953 argument, it still doesn’t explain the regime’s obsession with Israel. The U.S. may have been implicated in 1953, but Israel had nothing to do with it—yet the regime built its entire ideology around the destruction of Israel. 5.There were repeated gestures of goodwill toward the regime, all of which were rejected. Carter tried to engage the revolutionaries and was rewarded with the hostage crisis. Reagan secretly sent weapons and McFarlane to Tehran and was humiliated. Clinton attempted outreach to Khatami, which Khamenei shut down. Obama negotiated the JCPOA, and the very next day Khamenei declared, “We will never give up chanting death to America.”

@drZenez @RezaZiaEbrahimi @jadaliyya And if you really think it was articles like this that “created the conditions” for this war, rather than geopolitical tensions that date back to the 1950s, you’re really missing the forest for the trees. It’s an astounding take actually.

Did you read his article? He literally argues that Iran’s path to “liberation” runs through Palestine, essentially suggesting that Iran must work toward the destruction of Israel in order to be “liberated.” That is about the clearest endorsement one can give of the regime’s “Death to America / Death to Israel” ideology and its strategy of building proxy forces around Israel. Do some people really expect a state to center its entire ideology on destroying another country and then be surprised when that country fights back?

@drZenez @RezaZiaEbrahimi @jadaliyya What are you saying he did exactly to bring about the war? Can you be more specific?

What did I say a few days ago? The regime’s lobby and psychological warfare are now in full force pushing the claim that Mojtaba was never going to be the next leader. This is despite the fact that every Iranian has known for years that he was the likely successor. Karroubi warned about it in an open letter 16 years ago. Rouhani was even disqualified from running for the Assembly of Experts, while that body itself is dominated by figures loyal to Khamenei and the IRGC.

@alexshams_ Everyone who disagrees with you is a bot apparently.

The pro-Pahlavi, pro-Trump bots are out in full force trying to convince you Iranians support this war You can tell they're bots because of the lookalike accounts and the scrambled lookalike messages These are part of a misinformation campaign paid for by Israel:

Reza, the devout anti-imperialist, calls for war against “the empire” while comfortably living under it and paying his taxes to it.

You clearly stated that the only acceptable foreign policy for Iran is one based on the destruction of Israel. In your poorly written article, you pathologize any alternative view of Iranian foreign policy. Do you really expect Israel not to fight back when a state openly calls for its destruction? Are all nations in the world sanctioned, or do sanctions usually follow certain behaviors? Do you really not understand cause and effect? do you finally understand why many of us oppose the regime and its policies?

My my my. Everything has become possible in today’s world, hasn’t it? Now I am the warmonger, people!

The entire article is idiotic. The only evidence you offer for rejecting anti-Palestinianism as opposition politics is asking why the same standard is not applied to Russia or China. But this question collapses under even minimal scrutiny. Neither of those states are particularly strong allies of the Iranian regime (as evidenced by their support for the UAE’s claim over the three islands). More importantly, you effectively answer your own question in the final paragraph without realizing it. The Iranian regime’s ideology and political identity are built around hostility toward Israel and support for the Palestinian cause. It is not built around advancing Russian or Chinese hegemony. This is elementary to anyone with even a basic familiarity with Iranian politics, which makes your failure to grasp it a rather telling reflection on the quality of the academic work produced by you and Nasr.