dreadseed

@YurieAkko You’re comparing countries that ban and even murder homosexual individuals are on the same level as countries that will label you a pedo for being obsessed with lolis? What a crazy level to stoop just to avoid being seen as a freak/pedo but a victim being slowly oppressed

@dreadseed218 A few countries ban homosexuality. I do not care what backwards countries have to say. Cool, why should I care what backward countries like the UK think? There is no child abused in a cartoon.

The pedophiles bundled together to brigade and community note my thread asserting it claims that it is NECESSARY to use CSAM to draw small anime girls, when it doesn't say that. Ever. This is a total strawman, which is expected of lolicon retards. If you say they're attracted to children and call them pedophiles (which they are, it's literally what a lolicon means in Japanese), they will claim you're calling them predators and demand evidence of them preying on a child. This kind of strawmanning and elevation of claims is the cornerstone of the lolicon persecution complex. If you make a thread talking about how artists use references and that if you're looking at lolicon art, you have no guarantee the artist did not use images of real children or even CSAM as reference to produce it, they will claim (as you can see in the community note) that "CSAM is NECESSARY to draw small anime girls". The only thing that is asserted is that all lolicon art is based on what real children look like, which is undeniably true. Loli characters don't look like old grandmothers or adult women. Despite being stylized, they heavily emphasize childlike features. This isn't the same as claiming all lolicon art uses photographs of real children as reference or traces photographs of real children. The whole point is that if you're willing to draw a line at Shadman draw explicit images of real children, you should reasonably be skeptical about what material the other lolicon art you look at is based on. As is stated at the end, it could even be CSAM passed through an AI filter. "But it literally never happens!" I already mention the example of Shadman in the OP, but that seemed to fly over people's heads, but there are other examples: x.com/realNikandros/… I've already pointed to an example of Dorontabi, the artist responsible for the "uoooh 😭💢 correction" memes that he publicly talked about hoarding Japanese child gravure photos. x.com/P33P00peepee/s… Other commenters brought up other examples like the author of Vampeerz clearly using a photo of a real child on their work. What is the number of examples I need to pull up before you accept that there is a non-zero risk that the artist behind the lolicon images you enjoy might be using real children as reference? It doesn't matter what the artist says, because they have every incentive to lie. Just like lolicons have every incentive to lie and boldly strawman me, because they know exactly what they are and refuse to accept it.

@YurieAkko That’s crazy because as I said above you’d be wrong in a few countries lol Lolicon content is recognised as a form of CP and child SA material in countries like the UK. Same will happen in the USA if they come to the same conclusion So yes you’d be a criminal nice self expose

@dreadseed218 You realize I'm not right? lolicon is not a form of cp. No, because the creation of csam requires the ABUSE of a child. Child rape isn't legal. The fact you needed to ask this is extremely concerning.

@YurieAkko You realise you’re talking about pedos whenever you mention Loli right? They are inherently linked even if you deny it. If lolicon is a form of CP what type of people love CP? So yes or no do you think American first amendment protects freedom of expression of CP? Ps it’s no

@dreadseed218 Good thing I didn't say anything about pedos then. The first amendment protects expression. Comparing child rape to cartoons is pretty insane, and your logic can be applied to anything the government wants banned if it worked that way. Fortunately it does not.

@kzbulti It is a slippery slope I agree that banning/ censorship is bad…but the big unless is if it’s actually found harmful or criminal If most people in the west see lolicon content and think that’s a child why are people lusting/obsessing over that I don’t see the problem banning it

@dreadseed218 I also don’t entierly see this trend as a pure positive as stuff like this has been used as an excuse for banning anything under the sun, the Uk being a prime example. What do you mean fictional incest is a bigger crime than real incest in the UK.

@YurieAkko First amendment does not state freedom to allow pedos. What is happening with Epstein maybe it does lol If lolicon content is examined and found to be closely related towards CP or child SA content then yes it will be banned You don’t have freedom to have CSAM on your computer

@dreadseed218 America can't ban it, the first amendment would need to be abolished and no one will agree to do that just so we can ban cartoons

@kzbulti I’m not saying it’s happens everywhere rn it’s only a few countries.But something that’s happening is increasing conversation of the importance of child safety on the internet. More harmful material is being defined and judged/banned. In my opinion I don’t see this trend stopping

@dreadseed218 Doesn’t happen here, you instead get these, even though my country supposedly bans it. I have now proven that it indeed might not happen outside of the US. What now?

@YurieAkko Correct But google and any private company must follow government rules and laws if it wants to operate in it’s country Interested to know how many countries will it take labeling lolicon as child SA will it take for these people to stop coping Maybe when America finally does

@dreadseed218 @realNikandros Google is not a government entity

@kzbulti I’m just noting how the goalpost moves First it doesn’t happen outside the us. Proven it does,if you don’t search it on google it’s not a problem. That’s proven wrong too.Will it now be it’s a problem with the countries that’s labeling it as child SA and not the content itself?

@dreadseed218 @134_Forerunner To be fair, australia thinks that small breasted woman are children, so it lines up with that logic.

@134_Forerunner I am outside the US I’m in Australia and yes if I don’t use google and use bing it still pops up Some governments are slowly realising the dangers and labelling lolicon content as child SA Who knows in 5 years it may be illegal all together in multiple countries

@dreadseed218 @realNikandros Try googling outside the US you will get a different response try searching it without using Google the results will expose the bullshit of what Google was blocking

@realNikandros Btw this is the correct line of logic to follow It may be just my opinion but it’s only a matter of time for governments to further increase child safety on the internet. The first major step obviously calling out lolicon content for what it is Next step banning it completely

@realNikandros To most people lolicon media is basically a form of CP. By that logic those who readily consume and defend it are pedos/freaks That isn’t watering down the word pedo, in fact some governments already identify lolicon as child SA material. Try googling lolicon this might come up

@KissofEnvyy 3/3 More of your retardation You’re grossly taking a small minority of rape victims and using it to say anyone who disagrees with you is justifying all rape I know people like you are gonna continue to jack off to anime kids and blindly defend it. But still gotta point out🚩

@KissofEnvyy 2/3 Using your logic around 3k or more would be victims of SA and in peak times of the game around 27k playerbase maybe even around 20k SA victims After all you said often and often implies a majority. Sure maybe some are but to say lolicons are mostly huge victims is insane

So by extension, you believe that anyone who has ever killed someone in GTA, Call of Duty, World of Warcraft, League of Legends, any video game is a murderer? If not, you don't believe what you say because that's the same logic. This line of thinking can be used to justify rape, by the way. Equating kink to real-world desire means you believe that women who have a "consensual nonconsent" kink (known as a "rape kink") want to be raped IRL. This applies the same logic of "fantasizing about something equates to real world desire" and if you genuinely believe that, then it must be applied equally across the board. This "rape" fetish can form after a sexual assault as a way to cope with and compartmentalize and reconcile the trauma of the SA. Similarly, lolicons often report being child sex abuse victims so this could be their way of dealing with it. This logic is also predicated upon "violent video games make you violent" which has been disproven extensively. Another factor you people forget: PERSONALITY. Anime characters, even if they're 12, generally don't act 12. They act far more mature. They generally have a more fleshed out personality, their own goals, aspirations, things they are determined to do. Anime "kids" generally don't even act like kids. Behavior plays a big part into it. Oh and uh.... Anime isn't real. Sorry that I must inform you of this, but anime isn't real so no one is being harmed. If you dislike lolicon, that is 100% fine and understandable. However, to equate it to pedophilia is just virtue signaling over pixels and drawings and harming actual children by giving real pedos a shield to hide behind and, for those who report it to the FBI, waste the authorities time on bull shit when they could be catching REAL predators harming REAL children. Lets worry about pixels AFTER we've reduced the # of actual pedophiles in the world to 0.

@KissofEnvyy 2/2 To a lot of people lolicon media is close if not basically a form of CP. By that logic those who readily consume and defend it aka you are pedos That isn’t watering down the word and in fact some governments already feel this way. My bad to bring logic to a talk with a pedo

@KissofEnvyy 1/2 Textbook Whataboutism. A common logical fallacy used by idiots to deflect away from the original point and to attack the person criticising you For normal people a world exists where I can call you a pedo/freak and still care and support victims. This is quite normal

@KissofEnvyy 3/3 Now comes the gaslighting “it’s just drawings if you see a child you’re the real problem”Not I someone who consumes tons of loli media, buys loli/children merch eg a body pillow. If they’re just drawings why does all this other merch exist? Why do artists like Shadman exist?

@KissofEnvyy 2/3 How did you get here tho? Well a mix of massive amount of cope, being a freak/pedo and being completely removed from reality. That’s a common symptom of a NEET What does a NEET reality look like then? Well what media they consume of course. What do they consume? Loli media

@KissofEnvyy 2/2 If this wasn’t the goal why do these characters always adopt child like traits/dress in real life Japanese school attire? You know the points you ignored xD but I understand it’s hard to type when you have 1 hand on the keyboard the 2nd down low while looking at blue archive

@KissofEnvyy 1/2 Correct loli drawings aren’t real but the goal is to be as close to reality as possible which I proved to be right You bring up Moe which translates to strong affection/ feeling of protection. What is the best way to achieve this? To emulate real life children of course