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@DragoonFpl @meek__01 There is nothing conclusive if you're blind or simply want Bruno to get the outright record. For those with none of those problems , it will be rightfully taken away from Bruno.

@duenthedude @meek__01 You don't understand the logic applied to the situation: there is nothing conclusive (video, not stills) to say the ball was definitely NOT going in off the bar or that Verbruggen's touch was what caused the ball to cross the line, therefore, the default is to award the attacker.

Bruno Fernandes' record 21st assist probably shouldn't exist. And the rules that prove it came from Man United fans themselves. Here's what happened: Fernandes whipped in a corner, Dorgu's header hit the crossbar, came down, hit Verbruggen's hand and went into the net. The Premier League officially credited it as a Dorgu goal and a Bruno Fernandes assist. Record broken. Then the replays came out. United fans started sharing a screenshot of the Premier League's own published rules titled "When is it NOT an own goal?" thinking it proved the goal was correctly given to Dorgu. Here's the painful irony, that image actually builds the case AGAINST Bruno's assist. Here's exactly why. The PL rules only protect attacker goal credit in two specific situations: 1. ON-TARGET DEFLECTIONS — If an attacking player shoots a ball that is already on target and it deflects off a defender on its way past the goalkeeper, the goal stays with the attacker. The defender's touch is just considered a deflection. 2. GOALKEEPER FUMBLES — If an attacking shot on goal is stopped but the goalkeeper fumbles and accidentally pushes it over the line, it is credited to the shooter. The critical word in BOTH cases is ON TARGET. A ball that hits the crossbar or post is by definition OFF TARGET. It is logged as a missed shot in every official stats system including Opta, the PL's own data partner. The goal was already not happening. At the moment that ball struck the crossbar, Dorgu's header was a miss. So when Verbruggen's hand then redirected it into the net, he was not fumbling an on-target shot. He was accidentally diverting a ball that had already missed the goal. Neither of the two protection rules applies here. By the Premier League's own published rules, that is an own goal, Verbruggen OG, not Dorgu goal. Now here's where it gets even more brutal for we the United fans If the Premier League's Goal Accreditation Panel reviewed this and ruled it a Verbruggen own goal, Bruno Fernandes would lose his assist completely. This is another PL rule most people don't know, own goals cannot have assists. It doesn't matter how good the corner was, how deliberately it was delivered or how directly it led to the goal. The moment it becomes an OG, the assist simply disappears from the record. Bruno would drop from 21 back to 20 and level with Kevin De Bruyne and Thierry Henry, not above them. No outright record. Can the panel actually change it now? Technically yes. The Goal Accreditation Panel has no strict published deadline for reviews. But will they? Almost certainly not. The season ended today. The Premier League has already posted the record celebration on their official account. Bruno Fernandes was named Premier League Player of the Season just yesterday. The record has been publicly confirmed at the highest level. Reversing it now would mean the PL publicly embarrassing themselves by walking back their own official announcement hours after making it. So Bruno almost certainly keeps the record, not because the rules clearly support the decision, but because football admin does not reopen finished seasons, and nobody with the power to change it has any incentive to do so. I'm a Man United fan. I want the record to stand. But bias doesn't change what the rules actually say.

@bil_prag @meek__01 I like how they say it's inclusive. We just don't know where the ball was going to end up. The trajectory of that ball isn't a mystery. It was going out. Not immediately downwards where it might even cross the line. It was going away from goal until.... this is going to be fun

@meek__01 Manchester United fans saying to a Manchester United fan "go cry" because he explains the rules is hilarious. it was off target, hit the crossbar, going out. It was always given as an own goal.

@Babajbear @meek__01 LOL you know he is a united fan right. And you choose to abuse him for saying the truth. Is this how bad you want the assist ?. If a keeper punches the ball in. Goal. No question. This doesn't happen here. It hits bar. And then hits keeper. OG

@meek__01 As per your stupid theory if a striker strikes a ball and the keeper touches it on its way to the net then that should be a own goal , how daft must one be to be considered a certified imbecile

@keedafrica1 @meek__01 No conclusive evidence ?lol it's hilarious to see just how much united fans want this assist to stand. It's clear its an own goal . We wait for the goal accreditation panel. This is going to be given as an OG. Rightfully so

@meek__01 No it stands because there is no conclusive evidence to suggest where the ball would end up.

@DragoonFpl @meek__01 You clearly don't want to see it. It's clear that it's going out until keepers hand hits it. The only thing that makes it not obvious is that it happens almost instantaneously. If the keeper doesn't raise his hands , the ball doesn't go in. It's an OG

@meek__01 I agree, but on video, it's almost impossible to conclude that Dorgu's shot would not have gone in off the bar or that Verbruggen's touch (basically on the line reaching behind himself) caused the ball to cross the line. In that case, the standard is to award attacker the goal.

@BankDevilsEra @meek__01 What the hell man. Go back to Africa because you really want the assist record to stand even if it's clearly an own goal?

@meek__01 Talking about the rules? If you not celebrating Bruno’s record then just go back to Africa

@meek__01 @Vitalis__ Like that Mbuemos handball that wasn't punished. If this is allowed to stand after the video evidence , I am going to be shocked. They should have made the right call. Then Bruno would have had the chance to set the record. Unfair to him.

@Vitalis__ All this to educate some United fans that are passing around screenshot that contradicts the goal decision

@meek__01 @yuteYRN There is a clear precedent that shows this goal will not stand. Arsenal away to Aston villa. Jorginhos shot hits the bar and comes off Martinez 2-3. Arsenal went on to win 2-4. Only reason there is any type of confusion is because the keeper hits the ball in almost immediately

Lol, the Save attempt precedent covers keepers fumbling shots. Verbruggen didn't fumble Dorgu's shot the crossbar stopped it first. Verbruggen reacted to a rebound. Those are two different situations. Also that precedent isn't in any published PL rule, show me the official source.

@meek__01 @benrostomD United fans here are embarrassing themselves. I've never seen people want something so much they delude themselves into believing something that's clear as day an own goal. De Bruyne claims to have had one assist taken from him. If this is not taken away, I will be shocked.

@benrostomD Do you remember the Raphinha shot in the champions league last season against inter Milan? And with all honesty go watch that clip and see if it's going in or not

@meek__01 @Nwamama_05 The funny thing is united fans seeing the footage and refusing to believe its and own goal just how much the assist matters to them. It will be even more hilarious when it's chalked off. Another thing. If it was rightfully not given , Bruno might have fought to get the assist

@Nwamama_05 Haha, clarifying people is something I can do about it, there's no post here on X that will change their decisions

@meek__01 @Nwamama_05 @meek_01 You're a mythical united fan. I thought logical united fans didn't exist. It's going to be rightfully chalked off. Madueke had a goal against leeds given as an og. Goal accreditation panel later gave it to Madueke. There is no timeline but it will be looked at.

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