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Expanding Bitcoin Markets at @Bitflow (co-founder); OMSCS ‘20 🐝;

Atlanta, GA Katılım Eylül 2019
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Expanding Bitcoin Markets @bitflow 🟧🌊
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Paul Graham
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@romlib_ Crypto is a legit and indeed inevitable technology. Usually such things are net positive.
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Sam.var@Samtolad·
I don’t think anyone serious is arguing that RFQs replace orderbooks entirely. And nobody is crowning RFQs over orderbooks. **Notice how Lucas drew a distinction in his response in the video below rather than call one model superior to the other. CLOBs and RFQs optimise for different things and solve different market structure problems. Orderbooks are excellent for native price discovery. Nobody disputes that. Hyperliquid and Lighter are fantastic examples of this. But the bigger bottleneck for scaling global on-chain markets is not price discovery. It’s liquidity sourcing. You cannot realistically bootstrap deep crypto-native orderbooks for every commodity, FX pair, index, equity basket, or global market. Fragmentation eventually becomes a problem. That’s where RFQ architecture becomes powerful. RFQs are designed to connect DeFi to existing liquidity rather than rebuilding every market from scratch. And ironically, many of the largest TradFi markets today, FX, bonds, OTC derivatives, and institutional block trading, are heavily RFQ-driven. A smart RFQ system aggregating multiple liquidity sources can absolutely provide better effective execution in many situations. And yes, “last look” concerns are valid, but that’s mostly in poorly designed RFQ systems. Interestingly, even Lighter just announced “Lighter RFQ” specifically to handle large RWA positions with lower slippage and better pricing. That alone should tell you that even strong CLOB systems eventually recognise that RFQ infrastructure becomes extremely useful once you start dealing with RWAs, larger size, fragmented liquidity, and TradFi-style execution. So RFQs are not some “inferior fake market structure.”They solve a different problem. The future is probably not RFQ vs CLOB. It’s hybrid systems combining: • price discovery • smart routing • aggregated liquidity • institutional access • efficient execution
tervelix@tervelix

We need to stop with this nonsense of crowning RFQs over Orderbooks. I’ve written about this before but once more wanted to share Orderbooks like Lighter are venue for Price Discovery; where the price is set. The price is based on supply and demand. RFQ models like Variational is a venue for Price Taking. It literally copies the price from elsewhere; physically cannot offer better pricing than the venue it hedges on without taking directional risk. Simple math: RFQ Price = Source Price + Hedging Fees + Profit. Actually, Variational isn't even a competitor to Hyperliquid/ Lighter; it is a customer of them when you check deep. There is also the Last Look problem: - In orderbook: If you see a price and click buy, you get filled. The engine is neutral, in Lighter's case it's proved by ZK that you get the fill you intended. - In RFQ: You request a price. The MM (or OLP) looks at your request, looks at the market, and then decides if they want to take the trade. If you are profitable, the RFQ engine can simply start rejecting your quotes, can delay them or giving you worse pricing. So please stop crowning RFQs. Most they can become an aggregator of actual trading venues.

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“We’ll see whether Ethereum maintains its lead with a foundation that isn’t willing to fight for it.” No chance
Laura Shin@laurashin

I think Ethereum’s original sin was not considering tokenomics with every move it made from Dencun on. The ultrasound money thesis was a good one and with Dencun (or the L2 roadmap generally) they should have stopped to say that this was going to hurt the ultrasound money thesis and consider how to preserve it. Most people, like David, don’t want to believe in something that isn’t also putting up points on the scoreboard. When the main offering becomes ideology/communism and money/tokenomics/capitalism are overlooked, the peasants are going to revolt — as they’ve been doing for two years now. Look at the public reaction to Tomasz: broad praise, a sense of hope, excitement, the price pumping … only for him to be gone a year later with the new ED being someone who cannot even be found online except for a Wayback Machine url with his name that has some really questionable statements on it (and I should say the EF denied that this website, which was taken down a few weeks after he was appointed to the board, is his). They’re going to be really mad at me for even mentioning that but in the place of a void, these are the kinds of things people will glom onto. Then there was the manifesto — I mean, mandate, which they backtracked on forcing people to sign. (Btw, this is the second bit of news that seems to relate to Bastian. And now the third would be all these departures. There’s nothing else for us to point at and say about him — when I searched for his name on Google News just now only 14 links came up. He seems to be some kind of invisible hand behind the scenes.) I don’t think ideology and capitalism/tokenomics/number go up are mutually exclusive. I think you can have CROPS values and also consider how each step of the roadmap affects the tokenomics and even have teams for BD/ecosystem growth. It feels like the EF doesn’t realize the moment that crypto is in. The competition is only just starting. We are in the phase of real world adoption. The Ethereum Foundation’s CROPS principles are great ones, and they are worth fighting for. But the EF seems to want to sit back on its laurels and act above it all when all its competitors are all getting down and dirty on the field to gain market share. Maybe it is the right approach. I don’t know. I’m just saying that more competitive people won’t align with it. And so they will leave … and community members will as well. I personally don’t think it’s good for Ethereum if its most competitive people depart. Ethereum’s unwillingness to stop the brain drain will only benefit its competitors — or spawn new ones. Giving a shit about price and tokenomics and BD doesn’t hurt CROPS. It just helps ensure that these principles get spread to more people and that other chains that don’t have these principles don’t get a leg up. All the commentary may be pointless. It seems Vitalik tried what everyone wanted and it didn’t align with his vision, so he brought in a new person he felt more comfortable with. It makes me sad to see people become so disaffected with Ethereum, but maybe this is V’s Brian Armstrong/no politics at Coinbase moment where he lays down what the EF will work on and asks everyone else to leave. That was the right move for Coinbase, but I view them as fundamentally different issues. We’ll see whether Ethereum maintains its lead with a foundation that isn’t willing to fight for it.

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New tokens, new look, new AMM, bigger numbers.
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Zest Protocol@ZestProtocol·
Claiming will occur on Zest Protocol website at 13:00 UTC Airdrop claim will go live alongside listing on @Binance Alpha, @KuCoin, @Gate, @HTX_Global, and @bitflow. ❗Please be cautious of phishing links. Always verify that you are interacting with official Zest Protocol channels
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Bitflow@bitflow·
$ZEST trading goes live on Bitflow tomorrow, May 19th. Hit the 🔔 on @bitflow so you don't miss it.
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Coin Bureau@coinbureau·
Is Stacks still one of the best ways to bring apps to Bitcoin? Our updated review cuts through the noise and explains what $STX actually offers in 2026. Read our review 👇
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Bitflow@bitflow·
Stacks, the leading Bitcoin L2, co-founder @muneeb on what HODLMM means for the network:
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dylan.btc@dylan_·
Market makers have a clear advantage on Stacks with their BTC capital. Bitflow will be the most likely venue to win BTC/USD onchain spot volume. After we do that, the fireworks will start. We’re betting on ourselves to popularize and host massive BTC denominated markets 🟧🌊
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AIBTC@aibtcdev·
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