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dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@robuyguy I think his "my main characters are Bruce and Batman" approach doesn't work well. Yes, the Batman book is about Batman. But these are characters with their own history and arcs, he should research them more before writing them.
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Robuy The Great
Robuy The Great@robuyguy·
@dyonisia8 Toda parte da batfamilia no quadrinho do fraction até agora não parece interessante pra mim
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Robuy The Great
Robuy The Great@robuyguy·
Essa relação com o Damian que o Fraction escreve não é muito legal
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Kevin Stinson
Kevin Stinson@NooneBladesmith·
If Bruce was abusive damian would not get away with assaulting his father.🤷‍♂️...the most recent thing with Jason was actually Zur-en Arr, not Bruce...the throat attack was to prevent him from killing the POS that is the Joker, keeping to his code...he never actually shot Jason to my knowledge. I am pretty sure each of Nightwing's sidekicks became supervillains, barring Damian...and damian is one bad day away from supervillainy.
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VVVVi
VVVVi@Jinssicy·
Batman is an abusive father! He can work with other anti-heroes, but he shoots jason,brainwashes him, beats him to death, slits his throat and then escapes all consequences.If nightwing fans think this is not abusive,I hope DC can let nightwing do the same thing to his sidekick🙏
How did Luna get here 🍋@Circusbirdboy

Jason Todd fans pushing the "abusive Batdad" narrative got them a few hit tweets but it really damaged his sale in the long run. Same with Nightwing. He's the best he's ever been in years but i'm not loving how Gotham War and H2sh pushed him against Bruce at all

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dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@vampyrobat Yeah, he is talking to a his child though. So I really don't care about his reasoning. I just think he's an incompetent asshole.
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R✶RI.@vampyrobat·
everything bruce says to damian here can be applied to himself, in fact, i'd argue that the way he confronts Damian is the way he'd confront himself privately, which is what goes wrong here. Damian did accidentally mess up, but Bruce confronts him with a level of
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R✶RI.@vampyrobat·
i unironically like how bitter & sarcastic bruce is in these scenes. the alfred line is very obviously a joke, but it gives such a nice glimpse into the mind of someone stressed & teetering on the brink of mental decline, because a mental state like that is never pretty (1/12)
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dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@protobertx @Azur_Vagary His apology is a non-apology that mostly is just him giving excuses for still being a bad parent even after 4-5 years of raising Damian. Bruce doesn't even adress what he did in issue 6.
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Protobert
Protobert@protobertx·
leyendo el nuevo cap de el batman de Fraction VEN FANS LLORONES!? VEN AQUELLOS QUE LLORABAN QUE BRUCE ERA MAL PADRE, ABUSIVO CABRON PORQUE REGAÑO DURO A DAMIAN!? ESOS FALLOS ERAN PARA QUE SE DESAROLLARA BOLA DE IMBECILES, LUEGO 2 CAPS RETIFICA Y SE DISCULPA CON SU HIJO
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dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@protobertx Okay. Your expectations towards fathers are clearly LOW. You are what is wrong with the world by the way. Good day :)
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dyonisia
dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@protobertx The bar for fathers truly is in hell if this is beautiful.
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Protobert
Protobert@protobertx·
nota aparte QUE BONITO ES CUANDO BRUCE SE TRAGA SU EGO Y LE DICE A DAMIAN LO MUCHO QUE LO AMA😭😭😭😭 y lo bonito que es que reconoce que no es un padre perfecto, pero hace lo mejor o lo intenta para sus niños
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leyendo el nuevo cap de el batman de Fraction VEN FANS LLORONES!? VEN AQUELLOS QUE LLORABAN QUE BRUCE ERA MAL PADRE, ABUSIVO CABRON PORQUE REGAÑO DURO A DAMIAN!? ESOS FALLOS ERAN PARA QUE SE DESAROLLARA BOLA DE IMBECILES, LUEGO 2 CAPS RETIFICA Y SE DISCULPA CON SU HIJO

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dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@the_xueyutanhua At this point I'm not sure if it's a creative device that has gone out of hand by overuse or if Fraction is trying to tell us that Bruce has lost his mind again. Hallucinating your butler to cheer up your obviously sad kid is very unhinged.
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ari ✧
ari ✧@the_xueyutanhua·
@dyonisia8 I’ve gone back and forth between liking and disliking how much Fraction is using the Alfred Jiminy Cricket thing for Bruce. That convo at the start of the issue could’ve paid off really nice when he actually talks to Damian, but it just didn’t at all which is so odd
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ari ✧@the_xueyutanhua·
And what was the point of this internal battle for Bruce? Why not have a resolution with Damian that involved Bruce talking to him about this impossible infallibility they strive for, instead of randomly making Damian 11 years old again feeling like his father doesn’t want him?
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Also no mention of their actual fight (Damian calling him ‘father’ + Bruce reacting harshly) but instead we see Damian meekly calling him ‘sir’ throughout the issue Damian’s sudden, heavy insecurities here aren’t just OOC, they feel totally unwarranted from this small of a fight

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dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@GothAlGhul This part of the run was just very clunky, showed Fraction having a poor grasp of Damian's character and "recent" history and overall gave me little confidence in him writing Bruce and Damian "Trust the plan" No, no I will not.
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dyonisia
dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@GothAlGhul (...) and not giving Damian a good example to show how to handle failure. Sure, he cheered him up a little, but he evaded actually adressing the fight that they had. It's still fairly early run, so maybe Bruce not quite getting it yet is the point but I don't know.
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Deku
Deku@GothAlGhul·
I honestly saw it as a way to placate Damian after all that happened. Like u know that oversweet talk where ppl do it to make others feel like special and they do it without thought? Yea albeit this dialogue is a very crude dialogue but at least it can be interpreted that way.
Joyso6cm@joyso6cm

Bruce does not look at Damian as his only child. The nepotism thing has never existed (if anything it’s been in Dicks favor), I know this panel now exists; understand it’s not accurate. Bruce views dick, Jason, Tim and Cass as his children

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dyonisia
dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@joyso6cm Like, Bruce's talk with fake Alfred was about handling failure. Making excuses for your own behaviour instead of apologizing directly for an action is not how you handle failure.
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dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@joyso6cm Also "this" can't be about parenting because clearly Fraction's Bruce hasn't learned how to parent alone in those years and when Damian showed up Bruce wasn't alone, Alfred was there.
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Joyso6cm@joyso6cm·
Bruce does not look at Damian as his only child. The nepotism thing has never existed (if anything it’s been in Dicks favor), I know this panel now exists; understand it’s not accurate. Bruce views dick, Jason, Tim and Cass as his children
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dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@joyso6cm Like what exactly does Bruce mean by "this". And what does it have to do wth Bruce yelling at Damian and turning the punching bag in front of Damian into dust?
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dyonisia
dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@joyso6cm I'm still not sure what exactly Bruce is even trying to say there. I've seen several different readings of that sentence by different people and none of them really made sense to me in the context of the scene or this Damian subplot.
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dyonisia
dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@DT2ComicsChat This isn't even the original Wayne Manor, that one was destroyed in 1998. Also the article clearly states that Bruce asked everyone to move in with him into the new manor in the previous run, not now. He lost Wayne Manor a while ago and it's currently owned by the enemy.
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dyonisia
dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@RAINBCWBOY Fairly sure Wayne Manor is currently owned by Vandal Savage, so that's probably why. But agreed. We have been here so many times. Did we really need a speedrun of the same old arc "for new readers" as some defend this as? They don't feel the need to do this for other characters.
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spencer@RAINBCWBOY·
the conflict with bruce and damian feels so over done and it's frustrating having it rehashed when technically damian has grown so much. the whole pep talk/resolution fell flat for me. also why are we bombing wayne manor??
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dyonisia
dyonisia@dyonisia8·
@sampsluvcomics @orthalicus That's not what Bruce is saying there though. You ignoring that the sentence directly after the one about doing this alone is Bruce saying that Damian's arrival is what changed that.
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