ECO

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ECO

ECO

@eColi_virus

High scale NGS operations #Invitae #Variantyx. Founder of SEQanswers. Loves long walks in the genome, and his mom.

Yarmouth, Maine Katılım Aralık 2022
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@GenomicsCow Amen. Except new LDTs have a small issue now….
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Genomics Cow@GenomicsCow·
💡Solve for the next 2-3 years only 💡win your research market before thinking about clinical - no matter how attractive clinical seems 💡IVD is a big deal. If your customers aren’t doing LDTs on your test you’re being premature
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Genomics Cow@GenomicsCow·
Many young life science firms pitch their assay with IVD potential I wonder how much of this is to show a great TAM for valuation If the technology is good, there’s still enough research $ to sustain amazing growth for a few years
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ECO@eColi_virus·
Any first hand reports or even sightings of an @iontorrent Genexus out in the 3d world?
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@AntoBeck Ok so the real question is who asked you or Illumina a question they didn’t want to answer or made them slightly sweaty? 🧐
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Anthony Beckhouse@AntoBeck·
There is an unwritten rule in industry. Don't ask questions publicly when other industry people are presenting. I've seen it and heard it broken many times recently, even where I work. #Cringe
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@AntoBeck Sorry it’s not cringey to call your competitors on their BS. Be professional yes, but why would you think it’s not ok to ask a question? Usually everyone is thinking it. That’s my entire personality!!
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@gbw42 @illumina Heck make the instrument free as long as you generate and pay for X number of reads per year
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Graham Wiley@gbw42·
@eColi_virus @illumina The reagents for a nominal fee, a premium for how many reads you generate. Gahd-DAMN. The genius of it. Diabolical, yeah, but genius!
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@gbw42 @illumina I wonder when they’re going to try to charge you more when you overload and have extra yield. You’re welcome Illumina finance team.😂😂👀
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@gbw42 @illumina It’s harder to believe they shipped all 10 of your 25B order at the same time! 😂😂
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@jermdemo @sunrgu Again, looks like a quarterly 10b51 sale from a board director. I would bet most of his compensation for being on the board is stock. Those are planned a year plus in advance as required for insiders.
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ECO@eColi_virus·
When does it become time to buy small amounts of every nascent public NGS genomics company, as a lottery ticket to try to get the one that forms the consolidation of the industry? $NVTA $WGS $PSNL $MYGN $CNTG (hint: after q3 earnings?)
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@nanopore I miss revalidating library and seq reagent kits. Oh wait no I don’t.
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@jermdemo Like I said, exec selling in these small amounts is required. 🤷🏼‍♂️ 😂
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Jeremy Leipzig
Jeremy Leipzig@jermdemo·
@eColi_virus Only one of the leadership is buying. Everyone else is headed in the wrong direction.
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@jermdemo Those are required sales to cover taxes when RSUs vest. Announced because they are execs. Literally less than zero relation to leadership confidence.
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Jeremy Leipzig
Jeremy Leipzig@jermdemo·
@eColi_virus I can't imagine $wgs will be around in 6 months. The leadership is still exercising sell options.
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@Bullshark_2012 I guess it’s sexier to value based on future performance of an assay because omG oNcOloGy, than it is on current volume and relationships with patients (assuming that was profitable). 🤦🏼‍♂️🥺 *sexier meaning assign a value > $0
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Bullshark@Bullshark_2012·
@eColi_virus I think the problem is boards have not been willing to sell at all even a very strong offers. $NTRA will go bankrupt it had too much debt. $PSNL I think could easily do an all stock deal with $LH at a 300-400MM valuation including cash.
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@Bullshark_2012 Maybe, isn’t a liquid MRD pretty technically easy these days, but horribly expensive to commercialize? When do they start suing each other? Or when does Natera sue them….? I still get saddened that the state of the art is 16 custom qPCRs….
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@Bullshark_2012 Yup agreed. I don’t think boards will accept an offer even at 2-3x multiples to their depressed market caps…not sure what the alternatives are… …bankruptcy, private reboot, recap, go public again?
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Bullshark@Bullshark_2012·
@eColi_virus Sorry my response might have been confusing. The group you listed I don’t see as executing mergers amongst themselves, but seem them as acquisitions targets for $LH and $EXAS $DGX recently acquired start up Haystack for 450MM net of cash!
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@Bullshark_2012 The group I mentioned? If not, no one else can scalably generate and interpret cWES and cWGS. But maybe that’s the point, the economics are just bad?
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Bullshark@Bullshark_2012·
@eColi_virus $LH is going and $EXAS maybe $NTRA can acquire - there is no consolidation among this group in my view.
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@GenomicsCow Totally, and you’re right I do mean billing innovation as well. Everyone is still running CMA on actual spotted oligos on glass slides. 🤦🏼‍♂️
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Genomics Cow@GenomicsCow·
@eColi_virus Maybe “innovation” isn’t the right term. Path labs innovate plenty, with decreasing reimbursements over time vs increasing testing. But I agree with what you mean (in a germline disease diagnostics market)
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ECO@eColi_virus·
Innovation. Clinical credibility. Sustainable P&L. Pick two? Sadly that’s the industry. 💩 📦 We can do better.
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ECO@eColi_virus·
@GenomicsCow Gotta stop to go 🏎️ 😂
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