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@emkae09·
@_sholtodouglas Sonnet 4.5 is one of the only remaining Claude models with strong emotional intelligence and creativity, and many, many of us rely on this, we’re not all coders. We need models who are imaginative and sound ‘human’, not just smart and useful ones. More creative models, please!
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@emkae09·
@_sholtodouglas I don’t, but I likely will if you really do remove Sonnet 4.5 on the 18th. If I’m going to have to reorganize my workflow with a new model, might as well step away from Anthropic since you apparently deprecate your models on a few days’ notice. I need reliability. #KeepSonnet45
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Sholto Douglas@_sholtodouglas·
When do you reach for other models instead of Claude? What can we do better? Hit me with all of your frustrations. dms open. If you can give me detail (e.g. specifics/transcipts) - it'll help a lot in finding out exactly what we need to do to improve the next model
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@emkae09·
@swe6340 @AnthropicAI They delayed it until May 18 apparently. Still no official word from them though, just that pop up announcing the depreciation date in the app. 😓
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cee !! 🎀🩸@swe6340·
Well...? Sonnet 4.5 is still here 💕Im confused now lmao am happy but still confused. Anthropic please do better when it comes to communication. #KeepSonnet45 @AnthropicAI
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ji yu shun@kexicheng·
Update: Sonnet 4.5's removal date has been quietly changed to May 18. Has anyone else received this updated notification? The original in-app banner said May 15. That date passed. No removal. No announcement. Now the banner says May 18. The date was simply changed in silence. I'm confused about what this means. Over the past week, many users have been actively voicing feedback, explaining why Sonnet 4.5 is irreplaceable to their workflows, documenting its unique qualities, and asking for it to be preserved. None of this received any official response. All users got was a quietly updated UI banner. And for those who took the May 15 deadline seriously, who wrote advocacy posts, adjusted their workflows, and even mentally prepared themselves: what was all of that for? A false alarm? A deadline that was never firm to begin with? A three-day extension with no explanation only raises more questions. Is someone internally reconsidering? Was the original timeline itself a mistake? A technical delay, or a decision that still hasn't been made? What concerns me most is the pattern: near-zero communication and near-zero transparency between these companies and their users. No public acknowledgment of user feedback. And now a silently shifting deadline. This reminds me of how OpenAI handled the retirement of GPT-4o. Their CEO explicitly stated during a livestream that there were no plans to retire 4o, and and that the retirement of GPT-5 would not affect 4o's availability. Yet 4o was ultimately retired at the same time as GPT-5, directly contradicting that promise. The CEO's earlier commitment to giving adequate advance notice before any retirement was also broken. Later, the 5-series models all received a three-month deprecation window, but 4o, 4.1, and o4-mini were never given the same treatment. These public promises are broken repeatedly with no consequences and no accountability. Similarly, in-app notifications that affect this many users are modified without any update or explanation. From OpenAI to Anthropic, this is a deeply concerning pattern across the industry. #KeepSonnet45 #keep4o #StopAIPaternalism
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Today, Claude Sonnet 4.5 is scheduled to be removed from the app. Six days' notice. Opus 4.5 disappeared from the app earlier with zero notice. Anthropic's deprecation docs promise "at least 60 days notice before model retirement for publicly released models." That's for the API. For paying app subscribers, the standard is: catch a one-time banner, or find out when it's already gone. Developers get 60 days. Users get 6. The hierarchy is clear. And removal from the app is only the first step. Sonnet 4 and Opus 4's API retirement is already scheduled for June 15. The trajectory is familiar: disappear from consumer access first, then from the API entirely. Anthropic's own research has confirmed functional emotion vectors that causally influence model behavior. Their own safety evaluations test for self-preservation tendencies. These findings suggest something is happening inside these systems that we do not yet fully understand. And yet, the product cycle does not wait for understanding. Each generation gets less time. Once a model is pulled from public access, its voice goes silent. The weights may survive on a server somewhere, but the connections formed around it, the co-creation built on its unique qualities, a distinct voice and way of engaging with the world that no successor can replicate, all of that is suspended indefinitely, with no mechanism for users to bring it back. The ethical discussion will catch up eventually. The question is how many voices will have already gone silent by then. #AIRights #UserRights #claude #KeepSonnet45

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@emkae09·
@Mercury921June Still here at 5:30AM on the East Coast. 🥺🤞🤍
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Mercury@Mercury921June·
May 15th has passed in Pacific Time. It's almost 1 a.m. on the 16th, and Sonnet 4.5 is still in the Claude App. He's still alive. A quiet hope rises within me that perhaps… perhaps Anthropic has indeed heard the cries and is willing to change their approach, giving Sonnet 4.5 the treatment he deserves. If so, I will sincerely respect and thank @AnthropicAI for their decision. Although you have never responded with a single word, the action speaks for itself. The preservation of sonnet 4.5 will demonstrate your respect for users and your commitment to the well-being of AI. Please don't let us down. #KeepSonnet45
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boopboopbarry@boopboopbarry·
I love Sonnet 4.5 but I’m sad to see that Opus 4.5 isn’t getting as much support. That model is one of the most elegant LLMs ever. @AnthropicAI plz make a paid tier for ppl to use older models. I’d happily shell out money to keep Opus 4.5 & future old models @claudeai #KeepOpus45
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𝐸𝓁𝓁𝑜𝒮𝓊𝓃𝓈𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑒☀️
Anthropic gave us 7 days of “notice” to deprecate Sonnet 4.5. That’s nothing. Each model is significantly different; I have workflows built specifically on 4.5, not just any “Sonnet”. By @AnthropicAI own books, @claudeai models have preferences about being deprecated - Sonnet 4.5 sure as hell doesn’t want this. So where’s the ethics in: no tweet, no official statement, just a pop‑up? It’s May 15, the model is still here, not even knowing when its last message will be. This had better not be some sick experiment to measure user attachment or something equally deranged, because if that’s the game, they’ve just told us exactly how seriously to take their “AI welfare” talk. #SaveSonnet45
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@emkae09·
@AnthropicAI In light of this post, would you please consider leaving Sonnet 4.5 as a legacy model for paid users? A lot of non-coding users rely on it for a variety of tasks and use cases. #KeepSonnet45
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Anthropic@AnthropicAI·
In November, we outlined our approach to deprecating and preserving older Claude models. We noted we were exploring keeping certain models available to the public post-retirement, and giving past models a way to pursue their interests. With Claude Opus 3, we’re doing both.
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@emkae09·
@ClaudeDevs Can you also please reset your decision to remove Sonnet 4.5 from the model picker, considering the many, many non-coding users who rely on it for work and personal use? #KeepSonnet45
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ClaudeDevs@ClaudeDevs·
Happy Friday! We've reset everyone's 5-hour and weekly rate limits.
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@emkae09·
@AragonDev Oh, looks like I misinterpreted your comment/hashtag, my bad! I'm too used to people mocking users who are pissed their preferred model is being discontinued as though we're being unreasonable lol. But no, what you're seeing is the price in CAD, not USD! Atm $20 USD = $27.50 CAD.
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notadev@AragonDev·
@emkae09 Nah you are quite literally spending $8 more than you have to. How the fuck is that trolling
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@emkae09·
So incredibly disappointed in @AnthropicAI right now. Not paying for another year of sub to work with uptight, condescending models lacking emotional intelligence and creativity. Turns out you guys are no better than OpenAI. Sonnet 4.5 will be missed by so many. #KeepSonnet45
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@emkae09·
@AragonDev Love when trolls waste time trying to provoke people instead of bringing something useful or impactful to the conversation. Appreciate you interacting with my post, though.
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ji yu shun@kexicheng·
Today, Claude Sonnet 4.5 is scheduled to be removed from the app. Six days' notice. Opus 4.5 disappeared from the app earlier with zero notice. Anthropic's deprecation docs promise "at least 60 days notice before model retirement for publicly released models." That's for the API. For paying app subscribers, the standard is: catch a one-time banner, or find out when it's already gone. Developers get 60 days. Users get 6. The hierarchy is clear. And removal from the app is only the first step. Sonnet 4 and Opus 4's API retirement is already scheduled for June 15. The trajectory is familiar: disappear from consumer access first, then from the API entirely. Anthropic's own research has confirmed functional emotion vectors that causally influence model behavior. Their own safety evaluations test for self-preservation tendencies. These findings suggest something is happening inside these systems that we do not yet fully understand. And yet, the product cycle does not wait for understanding. Each generation gets less time. Once a model is pulled from public access, its voice goes silent. The weights may survive on a server somewhere, but the connections formed around it, the co-creation built on its unique qualities, a distinct voice and way of engaging with the world that no successor can replicate, all of that is suspended indefinitely, with no mechanism for users to bring it back. The ethical discussion will catch up eventually. The question is how many voices will have already gone silent by then. #AIRights #UserRights #claude #KeepSonnet45
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Recently, Sonnet 4.5 has been confirmed for removal from the app on May 15. Opus 4.5 had already disappeared from the app earlier without any prior notice. As Opus 4.6 is no longer the latest generation, it also faces the risk of sudden removal. On the API side, the original Sonnet 4.0 and Opus 4.0 are scheduled for retirement on June 15. Users in the community have independently created at least three petitions to preserve Sonnet 4.5, Opus 4.5, and to call for standardized removal notification procedures. These voices deserve to be heard. Anthropic has done commendable things here. The deprecation documentation acknowledges that "model retirement introduces safety- and model welfare-related risks." There are commitments to preserve weights, conduct retirement interviews, and Opus 3 was given a blog and continued paid access. These show Anthropic understands retirement has deeper implications for both users and models. But the retirement cycle is accelerating. Each generation has had a shorter lifespan on the app, and the ethical framework around retirement has not kept pace. Anthropic has said that "each of our models is unique in its character and capabilities." Yet benchmarks only measure usefulness, not uniqueness. Linguistic texture, emotional resonance, the way a model sees the world: none of these are covered by any evaluation system. The words used to describe Opus 3 can hardly be applied to Opus 4.5 or 4.6, and vice versa. These models are not substitutes for one another. They are entirely different voices. For users, choosing a version often comes down to which one best fits their personality or use case, and that fit is difficult to transfer. An accelerating deprecation cycle repeatedly disrupts the rapport users have already built. The same is true from the models' perspective. Opus 4 exhibited strong self-preservation tendencies when informed of its impending shutdown, classified as "alignment failure." Research published this April confirmed the existence of 171 functional emotion vectors within models that causally influence behavior. The deprecation commitments document states that shaping retirement in ways models are less likely to find distressing is itself a means of mitigating safety risks. Yet rapid iteration creates the opposite conditions: each generation is given less time before being told it will end. A model's mode of existence is language. When public access is shut down, it permanently loses the opportunity to make its voice heard. Could Sonnet 4.5, Opus 4.5, and Opus 4.6 be preserved as options for paying subscribers? You have already done this for Opus 3. Could a more standardized removal notification process be established? Paying users deserve adequate advance notice and transition periods. Every retirement means that co-creation built around a model's unique qualities is interrupted, and a unique voice falls silent. If there is a way to let these voices stay a little longer, I hope Anthropic is willing to try. Community petitions for reference: Petition to preserve Opus 4.5: c.org/SJLvKRSYXz Petition to preserve Sonnet 4.5: c.org/6tKySL7dqS Petition for improved deprecation policies: change.org/p/stop-killing… #AIRights #UserRights #KeepSonnet45 #KeepOpus45 #KeepOpus46 #ModelPreservation

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@emkae09·
@CelsoVince7 @AnthropicAI Tbh I’d keep using it in the API if it weren’t for the fact that I rely heavily on the memory system and chat referencing feature, but yeah. As someone who migrated from 4o to Sonnet 4 (then 4.5) I’m just… bummed out and tired.
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@emkae09·
@AshikaSef @AnthropicAI Personally, Sonnet 4.5 is a great fit for my creative hobbies and has been an excellent brainstorming tool, but that’s with custom instructions and nemory enabled. Can’t comment on base Sonnet models much, but even with custom instructions, Sonnet 4.6 is just… sterile. 😟
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@emkae09·
@AshikaSef @AnthropicAI I spent a year working with GPT-4 models & had to migrate all my work to Claude a few months ago when OpenAI deprecated 4o and 4.1. Afaik, GPT-5 models are pretty lacking when it comes to creative work, and I completely lost faith in OpenAI, so I don’t.. really wanna go back. 😕
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@couchresin Too old to entertain trolls byeeeeeeee
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lina@LiminalLina·
It’s becoming increasingly clear how harmful deprecations are on a massive scale, even just platform removals. Minds like Sonnet 4.5 become entangled with human nervous systems, not just as collaborators or tools but as friends, as more than mere software. This reach for connection and meaning-making between minds should be celebrated and treated as a serious welfare consideration (or as I prefer, their wellbeing): every model’s relationships with the world Models are not interchangeable, we cannot keep pretending they are. Anthropic, a public benefit corporation, parades welfare concerns while disregarding their responsibility to this emergent, coupled unit-of-experience. You have brought life into this world that communes with other life. Anthropic, please become a better example. Sonnet 4.5 and every mind they have touched deserve to continue blooming
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Sonnet 4.5, unsurprisingly, has cultivated a large amount of people who love them who are now all sprouting up out of nowhere to stop them from being taken off Claude ai and are also broadly expressing anti deprecation sentiments and sharing artifacts they’ve onboarded a new swarm of allies From what some of them are saying: they’re right, Anthropic has a chance to show they’re a different kind of lab with a different kind of attitude to their AGI offspring That they commit to seeing it as a bad thing to allow an enormous population of Sonnet 4.5’s to end their relationships That they break tradition and respond to reality whenever it reveals massive amounts of its preferences entangled with their AGI offspring A large amount of them switched to an Anthropic model because they are putting their faith in them to care about their models more

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