Jon Davis

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Jon Davis

Jon Davis

@engjoneer

Landing gear engineer, analog photographer, artist-wannabe, free thinking Independent. Grande coffee in a venti cup. Bold.

Katılım Ekim 2011
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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@mrddmia "Subject to its jurisdiction" does not equate to "total allegiance". When I travel to a foreign country, I'm subject to their laws, they have jurisdiction over me. I don't need to be totally allegiant to them for that to be true.
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🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸
Congress enacted the birthright citizenship clause to correct the Dred Scott decision. To give citizenship to freed slaves and their children. Here are the requirements: born in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction. Meaning total allegiance. The 14th Amendment did not cover American Indians. Congress had to pass separate statutes to give them citizenship. So ask the Court this question. If it didn't apply to American Indians, how the hell does it apply to illegal aliens? It doesn't. Full stop. Thanks for having me, @DanNewsManBall.
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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@EricHogue0 Howard's intention was to amend the Constitution to adopt the law of the land that was current at the time.
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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@EricHogue0 It's in your original post, immediately above the "alien and foreigner" sentence. It causes me to interpret the intent to be that "aliens and foreigners" in reference only to the ambassadors, foreign ministers, and their families.
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Eric Hogue
Eric Hogue@EricHogue0·
If that was true then you'd be able to find a direct quote from him that supports the claim. The reality is jurisdiction means the exact same thing it means everywhere else in the Constitution, which is why foreign families of diplomats were excluded from the 14A.
Jon Davis@engjoneer

@EricHogue0 @ryanswalters73 @SnappyTurtle73 Wikipedia reports that Howard clarified his statement - the one that the OP provided - during congressional debate over the Amendment, describing what he meant by "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof". He meant for it to include anybody who is not subject to a foreign power.

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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@mrddmia I suggest you take your question to a legal scholar. Get an education first before tweeting crap.
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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@mitchellvii Clearly you do not understand the role of the Supreme Court.
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Bill Mitchell
Bill Mitchell@mitchellvii·
SCOTUS DISASTER: Under normal circumstances, a 6-3 conservative Supreme Court should rule birthright citizenship unconstitutional in a slam dunk decision. Unfortunately, when you have RINOs like Roberts, Barrett, and Gorsuch on the court, you never know what's going to happen. It really is unfortunate that we have such a tremendous advantage, and yet can't seem to stop shooting ourselves in the foot! What is it about Republicans that they just completely are incapable of playing team ball? We'll have to wait and see. But with these three on the court, I don't have any great hopes.
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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@EricHogue0 @ryanswalters73 @SnappyTurtle73 Wikipedia reports that Howard clarified his statement - the one that the OP provided - during congressional debate over the Amendment, describing what he meant by "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof". He meant for it to include anybody who is not subject to a foreign power.
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Ryan S. Walters
Ryan S. Walters@ryanswalters73·
It’s so simple, only a complete moron, or TDS leftist, could possibly misunderstand it. A simple understanding of language, punctuation, and sentence structure helps too. Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan introduced the 14th amendment and said this: "This amendment which I have offered, is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."
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Gunther Eagleman™
Gunther Eagleman™@GuntherEagleman·
🚨 Dr. John Eastman just dropped a TRUTH BOMB outside SCOTUS “The 14th Amendment has been COMPLETELY MISREAD!” It was for former slaves, NOT automatic citizenship for everyone born here. “This misinterpretation is DETRIMENTAL to our nation’s future.”
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Ryan S. Walters
Ryan S. Walters@ryanswalters73·
@EricHogue0 @SnappyTurtle73 Let me help you: if he had intended to say what you think he said, he wouldn’t have included the words “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”
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Kari Lake
Kari Lake@KariLake·
Mail-in voting makes fraud easy: pair a phony ballot with a fake voter on the rolls, & you’ve manufactured a vote. I lived it. In 2022, I won on election night, but the press said, “Don’t celebrate, we’re still counting mail-ins.” For two weeks officials kept counting until they got the result they wanted. I took them to court & demanded proof these were real voters, real ballots, & verified signatures. They couldn’t produce it. We can’t keep seating people who weren’t legitimately elected. President Trump’s executive order ends this abuse & helps restore trust in our elections.
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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@jmarino7199 @BasedMikeLee lol you cut his explanation short. The foreigners and aliens he references are persons and members of their families who are ambassadors and foreign ministers.
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James Marino
James Marino@jmarino7199·
@BasedMikeLee Senator Howard of Michigan, sponsor of the draft amendment, proposed new language and explained "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens." THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT A SUICIDE PACT!!!
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Mike Lee
Mike Lee@BasedMikeLee·
The left would have a much better argument about birthright citizenship if Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment did *not* contain this limiting clause (emphasized below in all caps), which the left chronically ignores: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@BasedMikeLee You clearly haven’t studied up on the meaning of that phrase
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Mark Meadows
Mark Meadows@MarkMeadows·
How is this even a serious conversation? The idea that ANYONE can fly from ANYWHERE into America, have a baby, then fly back with citizenship is unserious. And yet, that’s exactly what is happening. Birthright citizenship should be rejected by SCOTUS immediately.
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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@SenTomCotton It’s not about illegal aliens, it’s about the babies born on US soil (regardless the citizenship of their parents) - they are US citizens by birth.
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Tom Cotton
Tom Cotton@SenTomCotton·
Birthright citizenship for illegal aliens has no basis in the Constitution. I hope that the Supreme Court rules in favor of ending this abusive practice.
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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@AlBuffalo2nite “..foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers..” Birthright citizenship does not apply to these but it does “include every other class of persons”.
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A Gene Robinson
A Gene Robinson@AlBuffalo2nite·
🚨Democrats love screaming ‘14th Amendment guarantees birthright citizenship to everyone born here!’.. But look what the actual author of the Citizenship Clause said in 1866: ‘This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers… but will include every other class of persons.’ Senator Jacob Howard (R-MI) - the guy who introduced the language - made it crystal clear: Not automatic citizenship for children of foreigners/aliens. ‘Subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ wasn’t filler. They tried to bury this history. We just dug it up. Read the original Congressional Globe debate for yourself. The Constitution isn’t a suicide pact. #AStoneGroove
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Rep. Jim Jordan
Rep. Jim Jordan@Jim_Jordan·
President Trump is doing what he said he would do: -Secure the border -Support law enforcement -Lower taxes for hardworking families -Enforce the law Promises made, promises kept.
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Tricia Thomas
Tricia Thomas@TriciaThom40938·
@engjoneer @KariLake @NEWSMAX @SchmittNYC Not so ineffective, Democrats won elections against Republicans by polls accepting votes after the election. Several Republicans won on Election Day,only to lose a week later. Pres. Trump won by a near landslide. Republicans are unable to accomplish enough to win by landslides.
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Jon Davis
Jon Davis@engjoneer·
@MHerronLaw @GuntherEagleman I think the authors of the 14th Amendment are smarter than you give them credit for. If they intended it to only apply to slaves, they would have said so; instead, they made the requirements for birthright citizenship very straightforward.
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Michael R. Herron Esq.
Michael R. Herron Esq.@MHerronLaw·
Trump is right—birthright citizenship is being abused! The 14th Amendment was meant for freed slaves under U.S. jurisdiction, NOT children of illegal immigrants flooding in as “anchor babies.” It incentivizes law-breaking and strains America. Time to end it and secure our sovereignty! #EndBirthrightCitizenship #AmericaFirst
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Gunther Eagleman™
Gunther Eagleman™@GuntherEagleman·
🚨 TODAY: Supreme Court about to hear Trump’s birthright citizenship order. Roughly 255,000 kids born here every year to illegal invaders would no longer automatically get U.S. citizenship, that’s about 6% of all births. Time to end it.
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