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Jonny

@escJB

Katılım Nisan 2017
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The New Catholic
The New Catholic@TheNewCatholic·
@escJB @RealMaxit The point of life most of all is to bring about God's kingdom on earth and choose God out of free will so that we get to heaven. It's not to live a long life but rather one that involves loving what is love itself.
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Mike Lad
Mike Lad@RealMaxit·
I committed suicide in 2015. I drank a 5th of whiskey, a bottle of wine while downing 30 serequel pills and 20 clonopin pills. While I was waiting to pass out and never wake up, a voice told me "Michael. call 911" I was almost incoherent in my thoughts. The voice was insistent now "Michael, call 911". I never talked to myself in the 3rd person. It was weird. I looked at my hand. The phone was there. I was never a phone person. I don't know where it came from. I dialed 911. I explained to the person I had done the pills and drink. She asked if I could make it to the door. I said I could. I walked to the door and went outside. There was a police car driving up at that same moment. It was as if it was meant to happen. He asked for my ID. I gave it to him. Then I was gone. I remember a little about being transferred to an ambulance. I woke in a hospital bed 2 days later. I was happy. I could not understand it. I was happy. I felt good. I was telling jokes and having a good talk with the hospital staff as they were getting me ready to be transferred to a mental hospital. I finally understood how the Lord saved me. I have never been the same, since. I can't explain it. I was saved and saved. I am not worthy but I was spared hell. I got healthy. I went from 250lbs to 170. I read my bible. My non military PTSD was a thing I could deal with without pharma. I now take no meds. So, here I am, alone, no need for social appeasement. Only to gather the lay of the land and make dumb posts, sometimes. May you all be blessed as I have been. Thank you, Lord.
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Annie Hawk
Annie Hawk@hawkes_gaye·
@RealMaxit Wow! Truly, Thank God you're alive! He saved one in more ways than one. How cool is that? So glad your spirit in you rose up & obeyed the voice of the LORD! Powerful testimony. Thanks for sharing.
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Loofa48@Loofa4822·
@escJB @TheBigMoon67 @FightStorage Fat Person: *exists* People: “Lose weight fat ass!” Fat person: *loses weight* People: “Yeah you lost weight but you took ozempic, fuck you!” Can’t win with you mfs.
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Wild Videos
Wild Videos@FightStorage·
Tammy Slaton, star of 1000-lb Sisters, is barely recognizable after extreme weight loss and skin removal surgery.
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vj@vjokbye·
@escJB You taking one? :)
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vj@vjokbye·
So people really think that you don’t have to put work when you’re taking ozempic? 🤪🤪🤪
Jonny@escJB

@TheBigMoon67 @FightStorage Puts in the work? She took Ozempic, why does anyone deserve respect for that?

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Jonny@escJB·
@vjokbye False. It is very effective at losing weight regardless of any diet or exercise changes
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vj@vjokbye·
@escJB Lmao. It will just suppress your appetite and it will NOT be effective without lifestyle changes, including a healthy diet and regular exercise.
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The Moon
The Moon@TheBigMoon67·
@FightStorage If you're making fun of her go fuck yourself. Weight loss is a big struggle and everyone that puts in the work to lose the weight deserves respect. Good for her.
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Jonny@escJB·
@JCLCUCF10 @darwintojesus We're done here, muted. I didn't make that claim and clarified it here x.com/escJB/status/2…
Jonny@escJB

@JCLCUCF10 @darwintojesus Firstly, I'm not making a claim. You asked me to account for why the various writers of the OT wrote what they did and I gave you what I think is the most likely explanation Co-opting some doctrine from an existing religion while adding on your own narrative means you can appeal

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JC
JC@JCLCUCF10·
@escJB @darwintojesus No you are making so many claims you can’t keep it straight. You’ve basically landed on: They knowingly spread a false claim of a crucified Messiah (not Jewish expectation), where it could be disproven. They did this to spread Jesus moral teachings and the resurrection
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Darwin to Jesus
Darwin to Jesus@darwintojesus·
I really don’t understand why this sort of thing surprises people. The Gospels are eye witness accounts. That’s why they were written, that’s why they were passed down and preserved. The idea that some unknown dudes made up some stories and everyone just went along with it is incredibly naive.
Shawn Hendrix@TheShawnHendrix

The Pilate Stone (Found 1961) Before 1961, there was no physical archaeological evidence that Pontius Pilate existed. Critics suggested he was a fictional character. That changed when archaeologists in Caesarea uncovered a limestone block used as a building repair. The Latin inscription clearly named "Pontius Pilatus" as the Prefect of Judea. The recent nature of this discovery is pretty mind blowing

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Jonny@escJB·
@JCLCUCF10 @darwintojesus You said 'yes' in answer to the question that "writers directly benefitted from land, money and power from what they wrote?" So I'm asking more detail on what informed your decision to reply 'yes'
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JC@JCLCUCF10·
@escJB @darwintojesus What are exactly are you asking? Are you asking for me to give you a breakdown of Muhammeds life and the spread of Islam right after?
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Jonny@escJB·
@JCLCUCF10 @darwintojesus You can't do that if the resurrection claims began anything beyond 1 month after the resurrection happened. And you have nothing robust to suggest the resurrection claims started immediately after it happened. Even if it did, rumours take time to circulate
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Jonny@escJB·
@JCLCUCF10 @darwintojesus So it essentially creates a second route (alongside the primary route that the moral teachings are logical/rational) by which they can personally adopt them
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Jonny@escJB·
@JCLCUCF10 @darwintojesus So you've misinterpreted what I said. My point was that adding the supernatural details adds an additional element to assist in the convincing. i.e. if someone is convinced by the claims someone rose from the dead, that alone will lead them to adopt the moral teachings
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Jonny@escJB·
@JCLCUCF10 @darwintojesus Nowhere does that say that convincing others of moral teachings requires resurrection claims to accompany it
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JC@JCLCUCF10·
@escJB @darwintojesus These are your words: Because people have more cause to buy into it when the source for the moral teachings is a supernatural being who could end up punishing them if they don't follow their lead. If it was the moral teachings themselves people would need to be convinced by the
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Jonny@escJB·
@JCLCUCF10 @darwintojesus How could they be proven wrong? You made that assertion earlier but didn't substantiate the timeline.
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JC@JCLCUCF10·
@escJB @darwintojesus Telling Jewish leaders the man they just crucified didn’t actually die and He actually is God in the same city they could be proven wrong and others knew Jesus is quite the false claim to make.
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Jonny@escJB·
@JCLCUCF10 @darwintojesus I didn't say it was needed, so I didn't make that claim. No point continuing this if you're going to try and put words in my mouth.
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JC@JCLCUCF10·
@escJB @darwintojesus Again a resurrection claim was not needed to spread morals, as you claimed. I’m not sure what you mean by significant influence either. They faced persecution. You are ignoring the context of the origin of Christianity.
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Jonny
Jonny@escJB·
@JCLCUCF10 @darwintojesus It's entirely logical. If you wanted the ingredients to try and convince a large group of people but apply your own preferences that would be a pretty effective way of doing it.
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JC@JCLCUCF10·
@escJB @darwintojesus You are essentially throwing everything possible at the wall. A resurrected Messiah was not an expectation of Judaism. Yes, some Jews converted. That does not mean the resurrection claim was a convenient false claim to make.
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