balão de fundo chato
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English
Never miss Evil Karaoke Day
Did not expect Evil to start growl singing. Absolute CINEMA again @QueenTamandua
#neurosama @EvilNeuroAI #vedalverse
English
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これまで沢山の海外の日本漫画ファンと関わってきましたが、彼らの中には、安価で使い勝手の良い海賊版が身近にある環境にいながらも
「好きな作品の作者に正当に還元したい」
と言って、正規版に強くこだわり、単行本一冊に日本人の何倍もの金額を支払っている方もいます。
一方で日本では、公然と海賊版を利用していると語る人は多くないものの、著作権意識の低さが垣間見える場面は少なくありません。
典型例が「漫画村」の件で、問題が騒がれ始めた当時は
「宣伝になるのだから無料で読めて当然」
「気に入ったら後で買うから問題ない」
といった擁護がSNS上で広く見られました。
さらに近年の生成AIをめぐる議論でも、作者が二次創作を明確に拒否しているにもかかわらず
「手描きでもやってるので問題ない」
「著作権は手描きの特権なので不要」
といった理屈で権利侵害を正当化する動きが見受けられます。
「外国人だから」というレッテルで片付ければ、この問題の本質は見えなくなります。
日本語
@katarou4haruhi bro really thinks it's worthy going full war because of some anime tiddies holy moly
its so over chat
English
@eudescontente この例えから
お前らの未来は２択
宿主がお前らに免疫をつけたり根絶される未来
お前らが進化して益をもたらす未来
んでコロナ良い例
世界から滅んで欲しいと思われてる
だからお前らは滅びろ
日本語
@katarou4haruhi Bro just chill and go touch grass fr
English
そもそも論ハルヒが好きならお前みたいなカスみたいなこと言わないんだよ
ハルヒは無いなら作れば良いってSOS団作ったのに作品から何も学んで無いエゴイストやんw
多分これ言うたらハルヒはルールや盗人やってるって反論くるだろうけど、それはフィクションだし学びとして是とするもんじゃ無い
balão de fundo chato@eudescontente
@katarou4haruhi Because you're all arrogant enough to think we don't care about it and just "steal" from creators, despite neither trying to understand how those things work overseas nor how we approach the situation.
日本語
@katarou4haruhi Then why do you think we should care about how you feel about piracy?
Either we come to a mutual understanding or everyone does what fits them better. Hence why I'm taking time off to try and reason a bit.
English
@eudescontente 傲慢？
バカ言ってるんじゃねーよ
お前らが傲慢なんだよ
お前らの状況を知ったところで、それをどうにかするのは俺らの仕事じゃねwww
海外なんか特に『日本』でもないんだから
なんでお前らの国の規制やルールを俺らが配慮しなきゃならないんだよwww
日本語
@TorradaMarciana Bro thinks I do it for money
Truth is
I do it for the love of the game
Mas não tankei, os caras se fazem de analfabeto, não pode
Português
@eudescontente Calma cara, compra a verificação, antes de fazer treta
Português
Are japanese people
a) stupid
b) incapable of reading
or pehaps
c) grok sucks dick at translating
Holy fuck it's 2026 and these people haven't learnt English
Why the hell am I even bothering with people who wanna talk about anything global and don't know English
Chat Im stupid
加藤AZUKI@azukiglg
既に、「コンテンツを買えない貧困者」を引き合いに出したり、「海賊版がバリューを高める役に立った」とか言い出してる人がかなりいるんで、「払えるなら海賊版など手を出さなかった」という主張はあまり信用されなくなってる。
English
@TorradaMarciana Peguei 100k impressões num tweet tô famoso
Já já vou ter que começar a fazer tweet de filtro de larper
Português
rapaz tô farmando view no X
vou começar a ragebaitar e assinar o azulzinho pro elon mosca me pagar
Português
@katarou4haruhi Because you're all arrogant enough to think we don't care about it and just "steal" from creators, despite neither trying to understand how those things work overseas nor how we approach the situation.
English
@eudescontente だからなに？
日本人でも稼いだ金の中で妥当な金額の商品を買うのは当たり前の話
何偉そうに話してるんだ？
日本語
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Mental health tip: if you have too many thoughts, just remove your brain.
English
@yuushalinsky and in the case you think Im talking about something different than them, theyre misreading me, not me misreading them
since this person rted me twice talking about me being poor when I clearly stated it was a matter of service
English
@yuushalinsky I legit don't know if you didn't read (because I never said that) or you just think people actually pirate japanese games
(anime and manga aside because it's the precise problem of it often not being available)
English
I don't know if you are now being intentionally obtuse but the statement "I can't buy it" is not the issue. The issue is "I can't afford it", where there is access but you decide it's not worth that much money for whatever reason.
balão de fundo chato@eudescontente
@azukiglg Yet again. It's not about value. It's about service. I dunno if I got translation butchered, but I think what I meant was pretty clear when I said "Piracy is a matter of service, not price". Value doesn't matter nearly as much as good service. Get that through your head.
English
俺は無断学習AIを使ったり違法コピー動画を視聴したりメーカーに利益が入らないルートでゲームを入手しエミュでゲームやってる極悪人だぞー！クリエイターに無断で著作物をコピーしたりMODでゲーム改造もやってるぞ！ネットに違法アップロードもしてるぞ！外国人に文句言ってるお前らは俺も叩け叩けー
日本語
@azukiglg Yet again. It's not about value. It's about service.
I dunno if I got translation butchered, but I think what I meant was pretty clear when I said
"Piracy is a matter of service, not price".
Value doesn't matter nearly as much as good service. Get that through your head.
English
既に、「コンテンツを買えない貧困者」を引き合いに出したり、「海賊版がバリューを高める役に立った」とか言い出してる人がかなりいるんで、「払えるなら海賊版など手を出さなかった」という主張はあまり信用されなくなってる。
balão de fundo chato@eudescontente
@azukiglg I don't get where japanese people got the idea mass pirating happens because people don't wanna pay. It happens precisaly because people >can't< pay. Yet again Valve was right all along - piracy is a matter of service, not price.
日本語
@hasibiroindustl @magozone23 I don't think you understand how that works.
Most games are already published in the west and they have huge profit doing so, despite claimed piracy (which is very rare for modern games). Just look at Elden Ring and Dark Souls.
Now, games that are not available are pirated.
English
@magozone23 でもどうせ正規版出ても結局それの海賊版をダウンロードするんだろヤツらは。
あいつらは自分たちの信用を地に叩きつけてしまったんだよもし何かの日本のゲームをお前らが好きだよって日本に向けて発信しようが
”でもどうせそれ海賊版だろ？”って言われるの覚悟しとけよそれだけのことをしたんだ
日本語
@nonuple9 Wouldn't change a thing, to be honest.
If it is available, it profits over the losses (i.e. cost and the small % of piracy).
If it was paid for then made unavailable people will make ways to keep it alive.
If it's unavailable or in poor condition it will be pirated.
English
海外ニキに質問なんだけど、日本のゲームの冒頭に、
「我々は企業に搾取されていません。ゲームの権利は私たちが持っており、皆さんが払ったお金は我々に還元されます。また、たとえ作品の宣伝になるとしても、海賊版により拡散されることは拒絶します」
という断り書きがあったらどう思います？
日本語
@LionessOGTfL Oh, so they're fanboys... I see. We're actually used to deal with that.
English
最近のニーア関係の炎上を見て気づいたけど、日本人のオタクの中でもゲーマー/ゲームオタクは他種のオタクとはかなり別物に近い
他の日本人のオタク、例えば鉄オタは鉄道会社、車オタは車メーカーによく文句を言うけど、ゲーマーはほとんど文句を言わない
マジでゲーム会社を擁護どころか信仰している
Mizutamari💧• Puddle Yokai@MizutamariVT
One of the interesting arguments the JP side has had against Stop Killing Games is that to make an offline version or would cost 50% to 100% more of the games original budget to do it. I'm not sure if this is just a blatant lie, genuine incompetence or total ignorance. We have guys with no access to the source code able to reverse engineer servers with, relatively speaking, minimal effort. If Joe Everyman can do it for 0 dollars in his basement without the nessecary information, how come companies that actually have that information apparently can't do?
日本語
@BigGreenGribbly @LorshZontek @kirayhf I share this opinion.
Truth is, translatores don't care about the media, they see it just as work.
English
@LorshZontek @eudescontente @kirayhf One part corporate orders to make the work more profitable by making it more accessible to a wider audience who just want to consume content, one part a philosophical aversion to not translating everything that isn't an already heavily normalised loan word like Karaoke.
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