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@CatholicCo200 @luvmyjaide i want to reiterate that i'm not currently presenting an argument here, i'm attacking yours, which you've agreed is an accurate syllogism of your position. so the only thing you need to do now is provide that justification.

@CatholicCo200 @luvmyjaide so this is once again where the burden fundamentally shifts. you now need to provide the justification for why the existence of a parent-child relationship *should* defeat & take precedence over bodily autonomy.

Babies commit assault by coming into being is a new one for me.

@CatholicCo200 @luvmyjaide in the interest of remaining absolutely good faith. i've syllogised what i believe to be the strongest possible version your position (we call this steelmanning). would you say the below is accurate?

@CatholicCo200 @luvmyjaide i don't use the self defence argument when it comes to justifying abortion, it's why i've never used the phrase. my position is simple. no human being has the right to use another human beings body without their consent. if you're going to say fetuses are an exception, justify it

@CatholicCo200 @luvmyjaide we're now just doing ethical triage. we're exploring "what do we value more, this persons life, or the lives of potentially millions of people?" i would definitively say the lives of the many are more important than the life of one person in this scenario.

@CatholicCo200 @luvmyjaide yes, their actions are going to constitute an enormous act of harm. even if they don't intend to set off the nuke, it's absolutely ethically permissable to stop them by any means necessary.

@CatholicCo200 @luvmyjaide right, but you still have the right to prevent the tumor from comitting further harm against you. self defence does not require an antagionist, it just requires there to be a threat of harm to your person.

@evilpostmaker @luvmyjaide You don’t commit self defense against a tumor. Nobody would ever call it that. Self defense requires a personal antagonist.

@xhbtfku @HakureiRyan @revenant_MMXX okay, but it doesn't detract from the game either, so you're upset over nothing

@evilpostmaker @HakureiRyan @revenant_MMXX I care because it's unnecessary to even exist in the Game. Look, if it had real Gameplay Effects like altering Speed, Acceleration, Drifting, Braking, and Stability, then I'd be keeping my mouth shut. Since it doesn't improve the Game or the Gameplay, it has no reason to exist.

We are never getting an actual good AAA racing game ever again

@CatholicCo200 @luvmyjaide the same way a person can accidentally hurt a person. but just because the harm is accidental or indirect, that doesn't mean the pregnant person loses the right to stop that harm from happening.

@CatholicCo200 @luvmyjaide it doesn't, for the same reason i've explained multiple times. my argument doesn't necessarily treat the fetus as an aggressor. because again, you can violate someones rights without intending to.

@xhbtfku @Satchafunkiluss @HakureiRyan @revenant_MMXX it also doesn't detract from the game either. so why do you really care

@evilpostmaker @Satchafunkiluss @HakureiRyan @revenant_MMXX Ok, why do the Devs care to put it in if it doesn't help the Game, nor the Players?

@MyMan663747 @luvmyjaide @CatholicCo200 so now the burden shifts. you now need to justify why fetuses should have that right, when we don't recognise that right in any other medical context. please explain why the right to bodily autonomy should be violated. the last person couldn't, maybe you can.

@MyMan663747 @luvmyjaide @CatholicCo200 but okay, for the sake of argument, let's pretend fetuses do have human rights. that still doesn't explain why they have the right to use another persons body or its resources, when no other human being has ever had that right.

@MyMan663747 @luvmyjaide @CatholicCo200 as a matter of fact, in order justify why the existence of a fetus should compel us to ignore the right to bodily autonomy, you need to justify why pregnant people shouldn't have that right. so you see, it's not me in favour of removing someones rights, it's you.

@MyMan663747 @luvmyjaide @CatholicCo200 that's not my argument. i never said fetuses don't deserve human rights, just that they categorically don't have them. that's not an opinion, that's a fact of how human rights function, they're granted at birth, and rescinded at death.