Adrian Tache

@VasiliyZukanov With the right architecture, Compose can just get a flow of UI states and have no coupling to the actual logic. Now, if people like to call APIs from their views, that's another matter entirely...

Never liked DataBinding, but it's only now, when I need to actually refactor it out of a complex app, that I fully realize how bad this framework is: code dependencies and logic nested deep in the XMLs hierarchy 🤮 Oddly, reminds the Jetpack Compose approach in some ways 😳

@GergelyOrosz I feel like these kinds of experiences are just exposing how hit and miss recruitment as a whole is. Having someone with such a stellar recommendation jump through so many hoops to finally just pass is such a huge waste of resources for everyone...

In a reflection on the werid job market: Got a reference call for an engineer who used to report directly to me. Rock solid engineer + tech lead + later EM. I'd hire him in a heartbeat. Gave a stellar reference, b/c the guy is great. The company then decided to pass on him.

@VasiliyZukanov I genuinely don't understand why they'd do that, breaking so many apps which will just draw the bars manually anyway. And I also don't understand why the Scaffold doesn't add those paddings now either... How did you fix it?

After bumping target SDK to 35 and adjusting a complex Android app to edge-to-edge, I'm adding "PhD in insets and padding" to my LinkedIn profile.

@JorgeCastilloPr Real architecture is important. If you cannot put some data into new UI because "it wasn't built that way" that means your UI is too coupled to your logic, and no amount of "domain" layers will change that. Architecture is all about properly separating components.

Ok let’s play. What Android dev opinion gets you in this situation?

@Zhuinden Yeah, navigation is domain because it's application logic, not UI logic. But I'd go one further and put the implementation into what I like to call the platform layer (and KMP too I guess), basically any Android interactions that don't fit into UI or data.

Navigation is part of "the domain" of an app, but apparently some people are working to get there

@ChrisKruegerDev I've made my own that actually has a reason for separation: adriantache.com/architecture/

A clean project structure for Kotlin Multiplatform with Android and iOS: - 3 packages for the layers - Source sets for Android & iOS - One single module #shipaton #shipaton2025

The Android community has felt scattered these past few years. Many left for other platforms, but now a lot are coming back. Let’s find each other again. If you’re an Android developer, reply to this tweet and say hi 👋 RT to help spread the word!

@JorgeCastilloPr Hello there!

@JorgeCastilloPr As a big fan of Compose Multiplatform, I feel the issue for all these frameworks is that sooner or later you need to write native solutions to problems. Having said that, if you have a good architecture (which separates all the core logic from ui/platform logic) why repeat code!

Crossplatform UI always starts the same. Big promises, slick demos, lots of wishful thinking. People wanting to believe. React Native, Flutter, Xamarin. Many have tried. Now it is Compose multiplatform. I find it very niche. Is this the real shift or just another dream? If you’re using it, how’s it holding up?

@JorgeCastilloPr Google Assistant still lives! You can toggle between it and Gemini. But an old Google Home device is still better, it processes commands faster and only gives a soft confirmation beep instead of the uncanny valley responses Gemini insists on giving.

Google Assistant was like that. Or is? Not sure if it was killed

@theo My biggest issue with it is that it's still not very user friendly, as it doesn't let you set default quality for videos, and still shows things like end cards, doesn't display dislikes, etc.

Not having YouTube Premium is a self own. Hours of ads is worth more than $12/month to you? Ouch.

@zsmb13 Oh, I have a new one: how is the Kotlin Multiplatform plugin not multiplatform itself?! 🤯

Quick request for feedback: what's your number one problem with using KMP today?

@donnfelker In my experience it's not necessarily faster, it's just different. You write a lot less boilerplate, or code in general, but you need to trade that time for babysitting the AI and guessing how it might be wrong. If you have a different workflow, I'd love to hear it.

AI assisted coding often feels like you're wasting your time, until it doesn't ... Huh? What do I mean? Check it out ... AI coding agents make us more efficient, but its not an obvious process for many ... Typically, especially for Senior developers, the flow goes like this: 1. Denial 2. Experimentation 3. Epiphany 4. Acceptance Problem is, between steps 1 and 3 is where some choose to abandon AI assisted coding altogether. Why? "Its just easier to do this myself, its doing stuff wrong." "This is stupid, this is taking too long." "I'm wasting all this time writing prompts and the result sucks." The trick is to stick with it, and try to completely STOP coding for a bit. I recommend creating an app (web preferably to see the full capabilities of AI assistance) 100% with prompts. I've done this a couple of times and the first time I did it, it changed the game for me and thats when I realized things have forever changed in development. That was about 3 months ago. Now, everything I do is AI assisted. I still have moments where I feel like I'm not productive and I feel like I'm wasting time. Then I'll get the prompt right, with the right model (it takes some experimentation) and then BOOM ... 2-3 days of work instantly done and I'm able to focus on actual business issues, human discussions, strategy and more. It often feels one step forward, 4 backward, 10 steps forward. Rinse wash repeat.

@zsmb13 Thanks for the info, I'll give it another try this weekend, since I imagine there are more resources for it now.

@eydryan kotlin-inject is very close to Dagger indeed, that would be my recommendation. github.com/evant/kotlin-i… Metro could also be an option. github.com/ZacSweers/metro Long-term, Google is working on KMP Dagger, but it'll take a while. #issuecomment-2825109480" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">github.com/google/dagger/…

@zsmb13 Just a simple, out of the box solution for it, ideally Dagger/Hilt. I only use KMP for my personal projects so I haven't taken the time to learn kotlinx-inject (and when I was looking into last year I think it there weren't a lot of resources out there).

@eydryan What are you missing around dependency injection?

@programadorthi @JorgeCastilloPr Funnily, I've never had an issue with that, unless someone was doing it with combined Flows, in which case the UI just crawls to a halt.

@JorgeCastilloPr Is it a form screen with 12 fields and doing validations during typing?

“My Compose screen is janky” Proceeds to add 12 remembers, 3 LaunchedEffects, and a random derivedStateOf. Still janky. Whats your go-to for Compose performance?

@Zhuinden I completely agree that unit tests should test behavior and not structure. I also personally feel that mocking is evil, I much prefer fakes and stubs. But perhaps in contradiction to you, I feel unit tests should cover small pieces of code, in order to help very quickly spot bugs

There are 2 forms of unit testing: 1.) black-box-testing: it's when you don't make any assumptions about how the code works, you just test if the result is correct. 2.) white-box-testing: when you make unit tests to satisfy the 80% line coverage requirements specified in Sonar.

@VasiliyZukanov There is no way Flutter is that popular, those percentages are nonsense

Native mobile development loses ground to cross-platform at an incredible pace.

@relizarov They do it to keep you in the app, boosting their engagement metrics and also giving them analytics to everything you do in those tabs. Some more malicious apps, like TikTok, even use that to block certain websites.

Every mobile social app opens links in its own browser. Stop it! This is horrible UX. Every time I have to take extra steps to open it in my system browser for basic amenities like access to my cookies, native app integration or simply saving the link to my read-later list.