Felice Rivarez 🇵🇸

It's really striking that Hans Kohn's resignation letter to the Keren Heyesod (Zionist Foundation Fund) pinpoints the same essential issue in 1929 that exists today

@fjriwlpq I don't see any gaslighting. No evidence the report there was misrepresenting the opinions of Palestinians in Gaza, who must have felt the dilemma most acutely: on the one hand, Harris should be punished; on the other, that will lead to even worse suffering for us under Trump.

@f_rivarez An example of Mehdi gaslighting pro Palestine Uncommitted voters by saying they don't represent Gaza, as if Kamala Harris and her Khive does

People like Mehdi Hasan and other DNC partisans spent years maligning people as fascists for the crime of talking to Tucker and recognizing his important value in US discourse. Then one day they wake up and decide it's OK to do, and announce it as if they're visionary pioneers:

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Shifting the goalposts? Well, here you are: washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysi…

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Okay. So where is the poll that any significant number of Palestinians are willing to accept any settlement other than full right of return?

I saw this at the Financial Times. British establishment journalists have been indoctrinated—starting young at elite private schools—with the views needed to oversee the propaganda system Many have literally never had an independent thought. What they do is spout received wisdom So when someone probes one of their ideas it falls apart because they’ve learnt it by rote - there has been no conscious processing of information. They believe something, but don’t know why. They’ve just heard some authority say it The top echelons of British journalism industry are, consequently, some of the most unimpressive people on the planet. Anyone capable of independent thought - and critical analysis outside the confines of establishment shibboleths - is filtered out very early

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Just says that all issues have to be settled one way or the other instead of being postponed.

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Same poll shows it was Arafat's idea of a 2 state solution, not a real one where the Palestinians fuck off and leave Israel alone after they get their state.

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Wrong. Here you have 61% in 2009: pcpsr.org/en/node/412

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt The only time there was ever majority support for a two-state solution is when Arafat duplicitously convinced them that it could mean two Arab states with a full right of return into Israel. As soon as that scheme failed in 2001 two state support cratered.

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Palestinian polls have been a bit all over the place but there have been majorities for two states. Skepticism today is likely because there is little prospect Israel would go along with that.

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt No poll or track record of behavior supports your claim. The largest percentage of Palestinians, then and now, said they demanded "one Arab state from the river to the sea". There's no reason to assume they wouldn't have attacked regardless as long as there was no "return".

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Private militants don't count. The armistice was there, which is by definition a cessation of hostilities for these purposes. Not dignifying your other response with a response.

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Hostilities absolutely *did not* cease with the armistice in 1949. Fedayeen militants began attacking Israel immediately and no Arab government offered peace with the new state. The Arabs walked away at the Lausanne conference of 1949 vowing to destroy Israel.

@OrenMarmorstein Why would it happen there? Italy, Germany, or France aren't occupying anyone.

Look at this. This is in Israel today. And this could be Rome, Berlin or Paris.

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Palestinians wouldn't have "gone berserk" if Israel had announced a complete disengagement. It didn't and of course it had no such intention.

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt It was a phased disengagement. The first settlements were dismantled parallel to total disengagement from Gaza. If the Palestinians hadn't kept going berserk over and over again, left wing parties would've won and continued the disengagement process.

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt It goes without saying that children born to refugees are refugees unless they adopt another status. Hostilities ceased with the armistice in 1949.

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt That is not true. The 4th Geneva Convention does not address, in any way, the status of children born in displacement. Nor was it violated in the pre-1967 period because hostilities never ceased. Claiming "return" is secondary to the territorial question is absurdly wrong.

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Where was any plan to disengage completely from the West Bank ever put on the table?

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Lest you start into the whataboutism, Israeli leaders have absolutely put abandonment of the settlements on the table before. Prior to the 2nd intifada and takeover of Gaza by Hamas there was a plan in the works to unilaterally disengage from the West Bank as well as gaza.

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt By international conventions such as the Fourth Geneva Convention, which Israel itself signed. Because there has been no indication Israel would accept that. The issue has generally been secondary to the territorial question.

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt Internationally recognized by who? A bunch of shithole countries in the UN General Assembly? They have no binding authority over Israel or anyone else. If it could be agreed why has no Palestinian leader ever agreed to negotiate on that basis, let alone made an actual offer?

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt While the settlements are illegal, the right to return is internationally recognized, so these are not things to be simply exchanged. But nevertheless, on a two-state basis there would be no point in having Palestinians return to Israel, so it could be agreed with compensation.

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt So yes, I do think an Israeli leader should offer to completely dismantle all the settlements in exchange for a complete, irreversible renunciation of the "refugee" claims that is written into the new Palestinian state's constitution... if only to call their bluff.

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt If Israel wants to accept Palestinian sovereignty, it will just have to give up the settlements, which it always knew were illegal.

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt It doesn't look so worm-eaten to me. There are plenty of countries in Europe with topographically complex borders that don't have a problem because they aren't at war with each other and accept each other's right to sovereignty.

@dark7eleme40971 @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt The Olmert map is absurd. You can't have a long-term border looking like worm tunnels.

@f_rivarez @EO_Halloran @kennardmatt You're right; they should have. But the Olmert offer was pretty much that already and offered pretty generous land swaps just so the largest settlements wouldn't have to be dismantled, which was a tiny part of the total West Bank's land area.

@fjriwlpq @ggreenwald @AbdullaAlhothi x.com/mehdirhasan/st…

@f_rivarez @ggreenwald @AbdullaAlhothi Can you show me any evidence where he was critical of Harris because otherwise this conversation is pointless. My experience is he defended Harris/Biden throughout 2020-24 and gaslighted, attacked and went after critics of Harris/Biden. If your experience is diff, show evidence

@EO_Halloran @kennardmatt No, this is quite beside the point. Hamas is light-years away from being able to end Israel's existence, and so long as Israel is occupying any part of Palestine, they have a right to resist, regardless of their theoretical further goals.

@f_rivarez @kennardmatt Sure but that doesn't mean many Arab countries haven't said they don't believe Israel has the right to exist, Hamas did Oct7th for that reason. And because many people do have the opinion that it doesn't have the right to exist, it's like the only country this is discussed

@fjriwlpq @ggreenwald @AbdullaAlhothi He was as critical of Harris as anyone. He just didn't take a definite position on the "trolley problem" dilemma as to whether a vote for Harris to prevent Trump might be justifiable.

@f_rivarez @ggreenwald @AbdullaAlhothi He did. I don't know why you're denying something we all witnessed. From 2016 through to 2024, he is a Vote Blue No Matter Who Guy. Mehdi himself will not deny it. Go look up his old tweets from 2024. There's a marked difference in how he covered Biden 2020-24.

@fjriwlpq @ggreenwald @AbdullaAlhothi I just said I disagreed with it. But here he was not "asking everyone to vote blue," he just pointed out the no-win situation and warned against illusions (which existed) that Trump would be anti-war etc.

@f_rivarez @ggreenwald @AbdullaAlhothi And then he asks everyone vote Blue because even if Democrats do a genocide and kill children, Republicans will do a worse genocie and kill more children. I'm sorry but this is not an acceptable Moral compass. If you agree with this, we have nothing else to say to each other

@bonchieredstate Weird how your lying works on so many levels at once. Some 15-year-old girl wrote "nigga" playfully as between non-whites without the slightest offense being intended or taken.

Some dude with Tourettes involuntarily said the n-word and the national press, along with activist groups and Hollywood actors, had a two-week meltdown. It comes out that Mamdani’s wife said it casually and voluntarily and it’s total silence. Weird how that works.