@Pat_Stedman Ok but it’s the red pill who’s selling the paranoia that all women are sleeping with attractive men they’re not invested in. Not to say this is something that doesn’t happen though
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The issue is more the sense of double standards. Most guys get resentful when a girl that clearly likes them wants to hold off on sex, because they presume she didn't make other guys wait. This is especially the case with older women who are most angling for commitment. It feels like bad faith / manipulation to guys and they opt out of considering her for something more serious, in large part defensively because they feel she views them as a beta / will use sex to control them later
Women have a hard time understanding this response because most of them will actually sleep with a guy they like less overall faster if he's hot enough and it's "right place right time". They know he has no future so they don't delay; the guy they want more seriously meanwhile they make wait because they "don't want to ruin it" and want him to invest more
This dual strategy being revealed puts women in a bind, because the natural courtship process of delay and making the guy invest to have sex has now been undermined by her (and other women's) willingness in other scenarios to have sex opportunistically. They have inadvertently penalized the guys they want more, and these guys aren't having it
The result is that women who don't want to be promiscuous anymore (and even to a large extent women who never were, because their chastity isn't believed) now lose investment from desirable men - only the desperate ones will wait. If these women try to counter this by putting out fast however these guys often devalue them anyway - it is the male sexual instinct to invest little in easy women
This breakdown in trust has led to the destruction of polarity itself, and it is one of the major factors contributing to the overall collapse in the dating market. Exceptional personality chemistry is having to pull more and more weight to make anyone commit to anyone these days - everything else is commoditized
So what I'd say to women who want to wait until commitment - first do not expect him to not see other women while you hold off, and second make sure you are bringing something to the table that is distinct and valuable to him in a woman besides sex. The problem is many women who want to hold off do not do this, they think sex with them is the prize, and unfortunately that is the furthest thing from the truth in 2026
Romy@Romy_Holland
the sentiment behind "why would he buy the cow when he can get the milk for free?" is very clearly wrong at an individual level—the reason many guys won't marry the girls they're casually having sex with is because their bar for marriage is much higher than their bar for casual sex. if a guy sees a girl as marriage material, having sex with her won't change this. but it does make sense at a societal level, which is maybe what people were historically trying to enforce. if *no* women will engage in casual/premarital sex, men are forced to date seriously and find someone to commit to if they want to have sex.
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@louisvarge Maybe more importantly though
1. I don’t “own” the truth, I may actually be wrong
2. I’d never trust someone who says they can always handle the truth, reveals a huge lack of self awareness
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within every white lie lays an assumption that the person you’re talking to is too immature to handle the truth
not a good vibe to project if you actually like someone and see them as an equal
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Who's gonna take out the trash?
Bratty Bailey@BaileyisBratty
there should be women only cities
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@MariGO2thepolls Saying this anywhere in latin america would make you far right
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@creatrix_ttv Well, no... that isn't quite right. If you don't have any money and refuse to work a job your responsibility is now to find a difficult way to survive. I balk at using this word, but you seem totally hemmed in by a bourgeois mentality
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Seeing women say things like this makes me feel like I'm from another planet. It’s such a horrible frame that encourages male nihilism and I just CANNOT relate.
*Almost* every wealthy individual (unless they were born with money) started by answering to someone else. Even Elon Musk had a boss at one point.
Nothing disgusts me more than laziness. There is nothing noble or attractive about being a bum.
Veronica, Collagen Scientist@celestialbe1ng
everyone’s losing their minds at her for this but she’s literally just saying what brute de force, colty brah and idk joe rogan have been saying for years: the men at the very top and the very bottom have more in common with each other than either does with the average guy. the founder and the drifter are both playing their own game. the guy clocking in 9-5 with a middle manager and a meal deal is playing someone else’s. that’s the difference. it was never about money
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@rieszspieces Nah, math people are more likely to suffer from the opposite problem
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@StellarFox16 @DrWallkick Maybe just get rid of the buzzword then confuses more than clarifies
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@DrWallkick It is misogyny. I can’t believe in 2026 Gen Z is knocking back all progress millennials made for leaving each other alone in personal sex lives. Telling women their consensual choices aren’t choice is infantilization and misogyny.
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Whenever kink discourse comes up I always ask "if women ask for misogynistic sex of me of their own free will, what do you want me to do?" and their answer is "tell them no," which then begs the question, "if a man tells women what they want is bad for them, isn't that misogyny?"
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Woman is attracted to instability. With instability comes excitement, chaos, newness. Idk when or where my next paycheck is coming from means you can’t really plan for the future. Extreme openness leads to the inability to build anything lasting. The founder becomes boring after he starts to succeed, there’s always another couch surfer you could explore the Appalachian trail with. A new adventure, a new city, a new a new a new and suddenly you look around and realize you don’t have anything lasting. No family, no husband, no kids, maybe something new?
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I have a theory that a girl who takes bad pictures is a sign of autism
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@Aella_Girl @robinhanson You’re literally unable to find a long term partner to have children with
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@SidPolitics @Empty_America I think I once saw a quote by a famous author claim that most of the most fierce hatred in this world is born for people who are too similar to us, not people who are diffrent from us.
I can't really remeber who's quote is that tho.
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People see this and tend to predict extreme "crowding" food insecurity and so forth, ask "how will they feed themselves."
Not how it actually works. Beyond a certain point countries like this simply start exporting colonists to other depopulated zones of the earth.
Michael A. Arouet@MichaelAArouet
There is at least one developed country that is not heading into a demographic crisis
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stop lying to yourself
redpill is for getting laid
quit making it to be more than it is, you sound lame
LamedBet@LamedBet
@fredsoda Red-pill just means truth seeking The tactics work because the understanding of female behaviour is correct, so I kind of balk a little at this framing of 'redpill works for dating'. How about: "truth seeking works for dating, but do you want to be with a woman you understand?"
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@Jbn3ex @ASH_Harajuku 1 in 50 chance you would die if you served in vietnam. also, the punishment for not serving was very lenient
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>age 20 in 1967
I think youre forgetting about something here
no context memes@nocontextmemes
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@captgouda24 “However, I am not the best possible. Only one person is the best possible.” Why would this be linearly ordered? Why would an order even exist?
People would take you more seriously if you were more serious about the things you believe
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When I have children, I do not want them to be genetically mine. Instead, I will have someone better than me be the sperm donor. My reasoning here:
nicholasdecker.substack.com/p/why-my-child…
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@TruueDiscipline Yeah but they don’t mean it. Millennial feminists actually hated men
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As bad as millennial feminism was, zoomette feminism is ever worse. Millennial feminists would at least cite stats and stuff even if they were wrong or misleading. Zoomer feminism is mostly just "men are icky."
Helen Lewis@helenlewis
I’ve written about the backlash to Adult Braces: “I do feel great sympathy for Lindy West. How was she to know that the great omertà of Millennial Feminism—that we had to take whatever people said about their life stories at face value—had broken?”
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I don’t even want to argue that black slaves had it worse than white men do today because it sounds like I care to argue about how bad black slaves had it. I don’t. I just cannot believe the number of seemingly serious people who are entertaining this. Where am I?
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@MariGO2thepolls @VioletFlame23 so unserious, you don't believe in demons
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@VioletFlame23 Nah porn and sex work are just objectively demonic
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Their opposition to porn, sex work, polyamory, and trans people all make sense in this light: they oppose anything that lets men find alternative sources of sexual/romantic satisfaction, reducing their ability to gatekeep sex/romance
Saying it out loud gives the whole game away
Violet@VioletFlame23
"Wouldn't the female version of incels be femcels, or man-hating radfems?" Only on the surface level When you look at the deeper sentiments underpinning their ideology, it's the reactionary feminists who are driven by insecurity over their sexual marketplace value decreasing
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