Orangekiwi

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Orangekiwi

Orangekiwi

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Katılım Şubat 2025
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Max
Max@minordissent·
It’s very interesting how all the blue pressers focus on what OTHERS SHOULD press, the low IQ red pressers focus on what THEY THEMSELVES SHOULD press, and the high IQ red pressers focus on what OTHERS WILL press.
Crémieux@cremieuxrecueil

Accurate cartoon. In my polling, almost 6% of people said they picked the wrong button when they were prompted about it. Assume the global error rate is higher and kids' responses are random, and easily 1-in-6 to 1-in-5 hit blue by mistake. So, if red wins, society is ruined.

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Orangekiwi
Orangekiwi@fountainglide·
@NoahRevoy @StefanMolyneux They cannot provide what a father can, however the majority of women that do beat their kids could certainly restrain themselves and not amplify violence. Perhaps in a few hundred years we shall see that anti-social violence of was largely a product of violent parenting.
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Coach Noah Revoy | Arms Dealer For The Soul 🏴‍☠️
I think it is a contributing factor, but it is more complex than that. Young men are naturally high in energy, aggressive, and competitive, and that can express itself as violence. That is not a problem. A certain amount of mutual, social violence is normal. Boys get into fistfights, they wrestle, and it is not a big issue. The problem comes when they do not have healthy masculine guidance to direct and channel that aggression. Without that, it shifts from playful, competitive, and friendly violence into antisocial violence. That is the real problem. Violence itself is not the issue. It becomes a problem when it is antisocial, parasitic, destructive, predatory, and non-reciprocal. Young boys are not contained by women. They do not have the capacity to do that. At a certain point, a boy becomes as strong as his mother, and then stronger. That is when he needs to enter the world of men and learn how to channel that aggression. That is not something women can provide. They do not have the capacity to direct that form of aggression. Boys need fathers to become men.
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Freedomain - with Stefan Molyneux, MA
The idea that “men = violence” is beyond ridiculous. Women are far more violent towards children and the unborn. Women are 50% of domestic violence. I’ve been talking about this for 40 years. The world is still not ready for that conversation.
Coach Noah Revoy | Arms Dealer For The Soul 🏴‍☠️@NoahRevoy

The absolute and total feminization of institutions, especially those of education, has led to extremely feminized thinking about research. These researchers, some of whom are physically women and the rest of whom are (mostly) spiritual women, cannot bring themselves to face the real nature of mankind. There are many reasons for this, and they are all connected. Here are two of them. To face the real nature of humanity, you must accept that violence is golden, as Jack Donovan (@mr_jackdonovan) said, and is the primary social tool by which society functions. We are either cooperating to protect ourselves from violence, cooperating to commit violence, or some combination of the two. Violence (and politics) is the primary job of men, which brings up the second point. Men are indispensable. We are the backbone of civilization, and civilizations cannot exist without us being men. That means more than just having an X and a Y chromosome, but acting in a masculine way, being dominant, strong, courageous, and willing to fight for ourselves and those we care about. This is something women cannot do, and it makes them dependent on men for survival. That terrifies the effeminate male, who cannot participate in that and therefore has no place in that hierarchy, neither as a masculine man nor as a feminine woman. It also terrifies the unwanted women, who cannot find their place with a man to protect them. Institutions tend to collect these people the way a poorly run company collects debts, until the weight of it all crushes the institution and reveals it for what it is.

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Orangekiwi
Orangekiwi@fountainglide·
@NoahRevoy @StefanMolyneux Great. Fully agreed. Same here with my wife. This is a fantastic message for your followers. We can at least entertain the idea that female violence towards young children causes the "violence crisis" amongst men.
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Coach Noah Revoy | Arms Dealer For The Soul 🏴‍☠️
That is a mischaracterization of what I said. It is not that men equal violence. It is that managing violence is one of our primary responsibilities as men. One of the key responsibilities for men is the organization and use of violence. It is a fundamental building block of how society is organized. Whether that is how it should be organized is a separate discussion. Many alternatives have been proposed. None have been implemented, and any attempt to do so would be vulnerable to groups that do organize around it. You do not have to be a violent person to understand this or to organize prosocial violence. You only need to be willing to take on that responsibility, alongside other men, not alone. The difference is that female violence against children is antisocial. Most female violence is antisocial, whereas men engage in both prosocial and antisocial violence.
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Nathan (Roquefort Mouse) ✝
Nathan (Roquefort Mouse) ✝@PaladinPolecat·
Every individual choosing red FOR HIMSELF is possible. Each individual, one at a time, accountable for his own decision. It is statistically improbably that 100% of people pick red, but I don't care honestly. My goal isn't "guarantee everyone lives" nor should it be.
Count Hankula 🔞@HankJ666

Everyone pressing red is MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE 51% pressing blue is realistic and easily achievable Blue is the logical option, it's literally the "Everyone lives" button, pressing red and risking yourself to societal collapse just shows the inside of your skull is a void

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InterspeciesFace
InterspeciesFace@InterspeciesFa1·
@fountainglide @ChrisPacia Hell, the poll says everyone has to press a button, so it's cheating to escape it through starving to death because that's an alternative to what they have to do. So we just stay in vote limbo forever in the original scenario.
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Chris Pacia
Chris Pacia@ChrisPacia·
The pattern played out like this: - Duh Red is the obvious choice. Nobody dies if everyone pushes red. There's not reason to push blue. - Blue button pusher think they have a bullet proof rebuttal... Some confused or irrational people will push blue. Therefore the knee-jerk red reaction is naive and the true enlightened position is that that you must push blue. Unfortunately, that turns out to be the naive position. Consider the following...
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Crémieux@cremieuxrecueil

@mfacehero Red is not the rational choice unless you are OK with mass death.

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Orangekiwi
Orangekiwi@fountainglide·
@LimpSpectre Blue: everyone lives if >50% press blue. Red: I live, but I watch my small babies and children die if >50% press red. When framed this way, it is obvious the red button pushers didnt put themselves in the shoes (empathy) of even their own children.
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Orangekiwi
Orangekiwi@fountainglide·
@LimpSpectre Because to pick red in the first place is to lack empathy. One of the consequences of lacking empathy (ie: narcissism) is unwilling to expose fragile inner self as wrong. Therefore they double and triple down on most absurd things like literally redefining the word "everyone".
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Kukurbito
Kukurbito@LimpSpectre·
How is the red button blue button discussion still going? How are red pressers getting more deranged by the day?
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Orangekiwi@fountainglide·
@InterspeciesFa1 @ChrisPacia Decomposed bodies in the ground are not people dude. Lol. Wtf man. The lengths you go to double and triple down on your self centered view to redefine "everyone" to mean those long dead.
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InterspeciesFace
InterspeciesFace@InterspeciesFa1·
@fountainglide @ChrisPacia Hell, what was the wording? Was it even "everyone alive"? Maybe dead people have to vote too. Was it that everyone survives, or that everyone lives? Is this the resurrection?
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Orangekiwi
Orangekiwi@fountainglide·
@mikethree Just because you are too dumb to understand me and too dumb to know what the word "everyone" means...
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Mike Three
Mike Three@mikethree·
blue button pressers are bent out of shape because their lives literally depend on convincing everyone else to think like they do and press the button they need them to press if they could they would force you to press the blue button at gunpoint and kill you if you refused
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Orangekiwi
Orangekiwi@fountainglide·
@DanFriedman81 Yes, like one's own babies and young children and disabled elderly parents.
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Daniel Friedman
Daniel Friedman@DanFriedman81·
“Obviously, we’re pushing blue. We must act against our own self-interest in order to safeguard the interests of those — probably members of marginalized populations — who lack the wherewithal to correctly make a choice on their own behalf.”
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Crémieux@cremieuxrecueil

If we project beyond the score cutoff, the mean increases to 102.06 for blue and falls to 96.73 for red. This version should really help people with their midwit memes!

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Orangekiwi
Orangekiwi@fountainglide·
@BarneyFlames Hilarious dude. Fail at reading comprehension and then you double down. How irrational.
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Total NIMBY Death
Total NIMBY Death@BarneyFlames·
Its annoying that empathetic midwits have so much discursive power because of their numbers. They can just pretend things are not what they actually are. "What about Muh children" is simply changing the red/blue problem to something it is not.
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Orangekiwi
Orangekiwi@fountainglide·
@InterspeciesFa1 @ChrisPacia The more disturbing part is that instead of quickly changing course, you are doubling down on the self-centered narcissistic view and willing to redefine the word "everyone" to include only "rational adults". It's all very girly based on your "feels of the spirit"
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Orangekiwi
Orangekiwi@fountainglide·
@InterspeciesFa1 @ChrisPacia This is the part where you are confusing things. What makes it an empathy test is to see if someone has enough care to actually consider their own helpless children, handicapped or very elderly loved ones. Or whether they redefine the word "everyone" to only include themselves.
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