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@howwardroark 4) feel the emotion that the narrative was protecting you from
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the mind constructs narratives and meaning on top of direct sensory experience, which is too detailed to be fit into any single narrative or point of view. what you want to do is 1) look for strong emotional reactions that feel bad. this is usually sign that some narrative has been violated. the most painful instances are when the narrative is about oneself 2) investigate those reactions in great detail 3) realize that you were applying a narrative to something by looking for evidence against your beliefs about what happened
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@howwardroark not sure what you're looking for. what questions do you have?
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@ftlsid Haha I think the key is having good morals but also the ability to break them when required.
When and how it’s broken is up to the individual which means there aren’t really any moral constants
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@protomneme another one I like is “meditation is the practice of paying attention to everything”
because “decreasing resistance” suggests that meditation is all about resistance, but ultimately it shows you how to find joy
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Tentatively, I'm hitting the limit of self-inquiry (basically, noting your thoughts and emotions, asking yourself questions about them, and finding inconsistencies or confusions). If you have high verbal ability it's probably faster than meditation for unraveling beliefs about the self, the external world, and the relationship between the two. It vastly reduces several kinds of suffering that are downstream of those beliefs, including suffering caused by threats to the ego and suffering related to reactivity due to past experiences. Clearing these beliefs is like defusing mines in the psyche, which opens a lot of room for self-expression and dynamism in life. Since self-inquiry is highly verbal, it's also very good at integrating insight into a normal social presentation, and has made me a lot sharper and more responsive in conversation.
The limitation of self-inquiry is that at some point the verbal labels and explanations stop appearing, and I'm left with raw body sensations. Some of these are downstream of beliefs (e.g. have anxious thought about the future -> bad physical sensation); these ones tend to stop happening. Other sensations stick around with no verbal interpretation. Then there's nothing left to inquire about, all that's present is, for example, "my throat is tight". Self-inquiry, at least the way I do it, has no tools to deal with this. So I think I will be returning to meditation.
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@protomneme I think meditation would allow you to experience sensations without resistance, which is what I’m looking for
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@ftlsid This is heartening to hear that there is a dimension you can move into and explore once you've squished the other one (cemented progress is possible, there is such a thing as "completed" or "doneness"). Would meditation bring insight into what conditions produced the sensation?
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