Greg Fischer

Most people don't know that VA loans can be assumed by investors and non-veterans. Many sellers don't market listings as assumable in fear they'll lose VA entitlement if they don't sell to a veteran. But veterans aren't putting cash down. This is a bottleneck. A plea to the VA...

@mikesimonsen @robhahn No, I’m being specific. If the house is legitimately for sale, and the seller would like the most traffic, and can accommodate showings, and will legitimately negotiate offers, then I wouldn’t recommend hiding the listing from other brokers as a way to get the best outcome.

Exactly! It sounds like you have a TON of reasons you've used to guide clients to not market their listings for some amount of time! They all seem perfectly valid to me. And that's the key. Everybody is wrapped around the axle about someone else "hiding" listings. I'm merely pointing out that you do it all the time. It's an important part of marketing a house.

What if we made it... Just imagining myself walking up to someone I know, with a serious face and saying; trust me, if we hide your listing from as many technologies as possible, it will absolutely get you a better outcome *as long as* we broadly shared your ad with other licensed brokers in the state. ?

@mikesimonsen @robhahn That is more about listing contract misalignment via the brokers. The consumer doesn’t have to agree to an unusually long contract term. If they’re stuck because of Withdrawn status, it’s by design of their listing contract with the broker. Not arbitrarily punitive by the MLS.

I'd argue that the fact that the reslist comes exactly 1 day after the MLS rule allows, that it's mostly for DOM reset. But it doesn't really matter. You were looking for a way to market the house without having it on the market and widely available to everyone. You wanted to time the market into a new cohort. You would have taken an offer if an agent had called you when the house was off market. It seems to me you absolutely needed a private listing network, but it simply wasn't available yet!

@robhahn Disagree with my personal observation that I can’t imagine telling someone their peak optimum market upside comes from actively hiding their real estate advertisement of a house for sale from real estate brokers who sell houses. Other ways can work! But I’m not starting there.

@gregofisch I've been thinking about this ever since private listings became an explosive issue. Might have to write it up.

@mikesimonsen @robhahn That’s not what I saw happen in front of me as a broker practitioner nor the conclusion I would draw. Reset DOM to 0 is not pretending it’s new. It’s moving the listing to the next on-market cohort.

Here's a different frame: I estimate there are currently at least 300,000 sellers who tried to sell last year but withdrew the listing. This is a critical issue for the housing market in 2026. These folks typically wait 31 or 91 days to relist and reset the DOM to zero and pretend it's new. They had to wait months longer to sell their house because the existing system doesn't have any mechanism to serve them. Every listing agent plays these games already. These "withdrawn" properties are absolutely still for sale. They're just hidden. It's easy to imagine agents telling sellers to hide their listing, because *they already do so every single day.* So... imagine telling your sellers the MLS rules force you to hide your house - or imagine giving them an alternative. What if that private listing alternative is precisely what the market has been demanding?

Just imagining myself walking up to someone I know, with a serious face and saying; trust me, if we hide your listing from as many technologies as possible, it will absolutely get you a better outcome than if we broadly shared your ad with other licensed brokers in the state.

@CGJXXIII Let’s goooo! Welcome to Buffalo

I appreciate the support!

I love the polishing experience now. Visuals or flows that would have been days or weeks just resolve. For pennies on the dollar. But more than any of that, I've just used it to expand my understanding of real estate data licensing. And thats what matters the most.

I work through user experience design conversationally when I find flow. I have a lot to learn. I view some of these new skills as this refined rapid prototyping weapon. And more using AI to centralize skillset so that delivering new real estate technology surfaces feels instant.

I think my old Macbook Pro is electrocuting me now. A year ago I was pasting code into GitHub web as a process haha. What I have it doing it today is a lot different. It's not an instant zap, it's more like a sting. Guess I'm redlining it? Harnessing it like Voltron? Dunno

@cbboyer @gregrobertson @sawyerhood @robhahn This is more the use case youd want to detect. Not an individual playing with AI to make a list view that doesn’t even contain the media. x.com/roundtablespac…

@cbboyer @gregrobertson @sawyerhood @robhahn Hopefully they buy one of the houses!

I'm speechless. GPT-5.4 is an extinction-level event for knowledge work. It scraped Zillow, pulled every SF house price, and dropped everything into a Google Sheet in ~4 minutes.

@cbboyer @gregrobertson @sawyerhood @robhahn What do your data license agreements say? Zillows TOS? I mean, hopefully this market educates the user. I think the concern is when then the user makes a commercial application for unlicensed/scraped/copyright data. But all they did so far is force a list view in spreadsheet.

@gregofisch @gregrobertson @sawyerhood @robhahn So the public replicating broker website data into spreadsheets is fine.

@gregrobertson @cbboyer @sawyerhood @robhahn Most copyright from MLS is for personal, non-commerical use cases. Anyone can copy and paste search results and data from listings into spreadsheets or apps. So hope this helps this person buy a house! That’d be a great outcome. But not really seeing net new issue.

@cbboyer @sawyerhood @gregofisch @robhahn Nobody searches for homes like this. And most of Zillow's feeds update every 10 mins.

If you contribute to the MLS then you’re eligible for more companies and people and AI agents to make products for you. If you dont, then you’re more locked-in.

When I see anti (real estate) agent fodder I can’t help but filter it as anti-entrepreneur, anti-reality, anti-people.

@cbboyer @robhahn @gregrobertson And at what quality level compared to the original video tho right lol. I mean $500 here for awesome videos 100x better than example. At thousand per hopefully 1000x original video posted here quality

@gregofisch @robhahn @gregrobertson People pay multiple thousands for videos all the time in luxury markets

Hey @gregrobertson -- would you say this fits the definition of "derivative products"? So the MLS now owns this guy's company?