@Senya_Shitpost Более того, синий выбор - это буквально тейки про "наших мальчиков", "детей Бамбаса"(которых не было, а вдруг были) и "раз уж начали, не проигрывать же".
Рабсеяне как раз нажимают синюю, не возражая против войны
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Эмигрант. Русофоб и вырусь. Гуманитарий хренов. Алкаш в завязке. Варю имбирный чай с корицей и фейспалмлю матом в тви для успокоения нервов
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@Senya_Shitpost Есть значительная разница. За нажатие кнопки суицида - несут ответственность и страдают нажавшие ее. Война - ответственность всего общества, и жертвы в том числе - третьи лица.
Поэтому можно выбирать митинг в твоем случае и красную в опросе
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Хотите шутку?
Если завтра выйдет на м*т*нг против сво 50% граждан, то война закончится
Если меньше, то всех вышедших пересажают и убьют
Если не выйти - ничего не будет.
Ну што, много выходит? Даже если вопрос а координации, красный лебедь буквально существовал.
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@Go65Me @vesstnik Ну да, это помогает, если нет фин факртора. Но знавал я и абсолютно бессовестных скотин которые все понимали, но им норм погреть руки на костях (чтоб они у них отвалились)
Да что говорить. Самые приличные ру-оппы - шахматист и секс-работница. Значит в совести дело, не в айкью
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@BrieFBurch @JustIdeals @ChardySPX This riddle was famous far before OG. The fact that he tweaked it in comments for more tension just makes it a mess and a far different question
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@hardubua @JustIdeals @ChardySPX You just assumed everyone meant something different than everyone and ran with it
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Hilarious how many people turn an IQ question into a humanitarian question. Here is the question hyper simplified for some of you.
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@BrieFBurch @JustIdeals @ChardySPX The definition of "everyone" is usually "everyone capable of". Making cruical addition in comments section alters the question.
F.e. If we assume that not choosing means red vote - this will change the logic too.
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@hardubua @JustIdeals @ChardySPX It's already in the question. Everyone means everyone. It doesn't mean everyone capable of pushing a button or understanding. It means everyone. And it's very specifically worded so everyone who doesn't press red dies if red wins, not just blue pushers. You didn't pay attention.
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@BrieFBurch @JustIdeals @ChardySPX Such conditions should be in question itself. If we add newborns, paralyzed and so on forced to push bluee- we will have a different question. Original question - that was popuilar before mr.beast's post never implied this.
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@hardubua @JustIdeals @ChardySPX The experiment says everyone and the OG creator of it clarified in the comments all children get a vote. That means, yes, newborns too. You are literally voting to kill children because you're assuming it means only people who can think like you.
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@BrieFBurch @JustIdeals @ChardySPX It's manipulative wording. Think about that. Red button does nothing, it has no physical impact. It's like going away. All actions (death or salvation) are solely regulated by blue button
Newborns? Such hypothetical question presume fair selwaware vote, if other is not stated
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@hardubua @JustIdeals @ChardySPX Nope. There experiment is worded that everyone who doesn't push red dies if red wins. That means blues and people who don't or can't vote. Like newborns. You're killing newborns by pushing red. The OP experiment maker already clarified all children will get their own button.
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@only_speaktruth @JustIdeals @ChardySPX no. Because the danger is literally created by blues and blues only. Blue button - is like jumping to a well hoping there would be enough people inside to help each other out. And there is no reason to go inside.
Reds are just sitting and watching the show.
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@hardubua @JustIdeals @ChardySPX It’s not an attempt to kill yourself, it’s a calculated risk in hopes to save others. Stop straw-manning.
You could easily argue that red voters are the ones creating risk by pushing towards red majority. Red majority is the only way deaths can even occur.
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@only_speaktruth @JustIdeals @ChardySPX Pressing blue is literally an attempt to kill yourself and everyone who also presses it.
Real question is - should such people really be saved? The ones who create a risk for up to 50% population where there was no risk at all? Without any gain?
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@hardubua @JustIdeals @ChardySPX absolute ideal situation is everyone votes red and everybody lives and nobody ever had any risk. But that’s just not the world we live in. Blue voters are inevitable. People who understand this are totally justified in voting blue
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@vsebudethorisho внезапно - нажимая красную кнопку ты не убиваешь никого. Нажимая синюю ты убиваешь вероятно себя и тех долбоебов, кто ее тоже нажали.
Нажатие синей СОЗДАЕТ проблему, которую должно якобы решить.
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люди выбирающие красную кнопку – вы же понимаете, что при любом исходе вы убиваете всех остальных? вы же понимаете, что при любом исходе хоть кто-то выберет синюю кнопку (а это могут быть и дети, например)
поэтому в вашей идеологии нет смысла
Sλava@JustSlavic
Мои мысли о кнопках кстати
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@only_speaktruth @JustIdeals @ChardySPX It's not a logical, you know:)
Let's presume I asked and they said red. Or blue. That doesn't change logic.
The most rational strategy is not playing russian roulette unless you want to and ready to face the consequences. Most moral- to counter uneffective ways of thinking (blue)
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@hardubua @JustIdeals @ChardySPX Guess what, you’re wrong. Not everybody has the same lens as you. Ask your kids, your wife, your parents, etc. Regular people, who have zero wish to die, will vote blue.
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@maxkhog @Lembegor @ThatLibertin А зачем предупреждать, что наркотики - нехорошо?
Пускать крокодил по вене и играть в ру рулетку синими кнопками - нехорошо.
С точки зрения выживания человечества наиболее рационально и морально - противостоять таким заведомо проигрышным стратегиям мышления
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@hardubua @Lembegor @ThatLibertin Ну зачем тогда мораль читать, что если все нажмут красную то все выживут?))
Пишите, что я нажал красную я выжил я молодец, а не мораль читать, что синие тупые))
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Если я нажму красную кнопку, то буду причастен к гибели миллиардов людей. Нет уж, спасибо
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@OfWonk @ChardySPX actually not. It maybe painted as well. Red button is the same as just going away.
Blue - is running suicidal machine which may probably kill you.
By pressing blue you create problem that you try to solve. And you are fully responsible for it's consequences.
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@hardubua @ChardySPX The red button is literally “connected” to the mass murder of potentially billions of people.
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@OfWonk @ChardySPX It actually is suicidal option. Blue button is actually suicide button which may work or not work.
Red button isn't connected with anything.
It's not moral, it's logical question - will you willingly take a suicidal bet if the reward is lives of people who already took such?
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@hardubua @ChardySPX It’s not like that at all. Stop fucking trying to reconfigure this into some sort of suicide option for blue. This is actually a simple hypothetical about choosing survival for everyone vs. guaranteeing the deaths of others if you don’t personally suffer the consequence.
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@HappyAries59925 @ChardySPX So... Will you start doing drugs too? Pharma works that way - more patients means more effort. By blue logic - it's moral to start. Or will you just warn people that they shouldn't make poor live decisions like heroin or blue button? Which is more rational?
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@hardubua @ChardySPX People are bound to press blue, millions or billions will die if red wins. For your example. Doing drugs. People know it is bad for them but they still do it. Maybe some of them want that cure because someone close to them started doing drugs.
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@only_speaktruth @JustIdeals @ChardySPX People are sentient. And selfaware. i presume that is fair vote, where participants understand what they do.
In that case only the one who is okay with dying will chose blue.
Should we really risk up to 50% population to save someone who wants to die?
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@hardubua @JustIdeals @ChardySPX Do you think 100% red will ever happen? Absolutely not.
Therefore blue majority is the only way to avoid mass casualties.
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@only_speaktruth @JustIdeals @ChardySPX Blue button is 'kill me pls". You don't know if someone pressed it by mistake. You don't know if someone worth saving pushed it. You push it - you create the problem.
It's like starting drugs thinking that higher number of addicted will speed up cure invention
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@hardubua @JustIdeals @ChardySPX Look at the poll results dumbass there would likely be billions of blue voters.
Given that billions are voting blue, is it better to reach blue majority or red majority? Which is the preferable outcome?
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@maxkhog @Lembegor @ThatLibertin На синюю нажмут только те, кто хочет нажать на кнопку "убейте меня пожалуйста". Действительно ли тем, кто умирать не планирует, надо рисковать собой чтобы спасти тех, кто умереть хочет, и тех, кто считает, что да, нужно?
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@Lembegor @ThatLibertin Все выживут если 100% нажмут на красную?
А сколько нужно нажать на синию чтобы все выжили?
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@JustIdeals @ChardySPX Oh, teranslation works well, it's just you are uncapable of logic
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@hardubua @ChardySPX I don’t think the translation is working well enough for this because that comment is anything but rational. . .
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