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Harold Bracy
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Harold Bracy
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My goal is to make my son smile as much as possible. Create a children's book featuring your family with https://t.co/vUAOJkJRwK
El Peñol, Colombia Katılım Ekim 2022
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@shagbark_hick You don't lose all that much. Worst case scenario, you lose what you and I both agree you shouldn't value in the first place: decadence.
But more likely, you apply for unemployment, which gives you more the more you make anyways, and you maintain much decadence
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@harold_bracy I think you should.
How many people do you know who are one layoff away from losing everything?
When you take the $3500/mo mortgage, have two car payments, and earn $90,000/yr at your job, you've chosen to make things very precarious for yourself.
It's quite common.
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You've got to be planning for poverty.
Assume that you're GOING to lose it all.
Assume that when you do lose it all, the economy will be in shambles, and you will have to beg for ANY job just to make ends meet.
Make sure that you could live on minimum wage or less.
If you do this, but wind up earning big money anyway, you keep more of it. But you move with total insurance that even if you lose everything, and things fall apart / don't work out -- you'll be OK.
Keep the cupboard STOCKED. Remember that rice is $0.50/lb and will keep you from starving when your time comes. Don't be afraid of eating squirrel, carp, dandelion. Train your family to be ready for another Great Depression if need be.
I have no idea why people aren't thinking like this more.
Absolutely nothing is guaranteed in our economic system, and if and when you lose it all, you do not want to have gigantic sums ($2,000+) in mandatory monthly expenses. You do not want the repo man to come around, you do not want to lose your house, you do not want to look at the cupboard and see that it is empty.
Anyone who has ever really been hard up knows this stuff intuitively. Some deride it as "survival mode," as if it were a mental illness to have this type of foresight. It is not, it is basic necessity. Don't live as if the "good times" will never end. They very well may.
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@shagbark_hick Agreed, that zone exists, but should you be optimizing against it?
If you have kids, there's so many safety nets (again assuming not SHTF) that you're most likely gonna be just fine.
And if you don't have kids... well, just sleep at your buddy's till you recover
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@harold_bracy Certainly that happened to a lot of people in '08, but I think there's a median zone between "my credit score falls" and "SHTF // TEOTWAWKI".
I met quite a few people who were made homeless by the '08 crisis (who were not addicts / schizos)
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@shagbark_hick In those scenarios, no one was eating dandelion for survival.
In those scenarios, the worst that will happen is that you go bankrupt, and your credit goes to the floor. I know, because that's what happened to my parents in '08
They had kids, so judge said "keep the house"
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@harold_bracy I'm not talking about "SHTF" I'm talking about the Great Recession, the 70's oil crisis, actual normal crises that happen periodically and leave giant swathes of the population hard up.
Talking about "the big one" is another question, I am talking about surviving forced poverty
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@Chris_arnade @sheebadigeebies Walking is the absolute best. One reason being that you can easily stop and talk to passersby. You won't do that realistically even on a bicycle.
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@sheebadigeebies Yes. Flying into a place, then ubering around, is not how you "see" a country. Hence my walking, often 200 miles, around a place!
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Rather the opposite is true. I’ve travelled extensively for work and the thing that always strikes me when I land in the US is “Where is all the money?”
You land at Heathrow, Berlin, Sydney, Tokyo and EVEN Paris in 2026 and you can instantly tell you’re in a wealthy country but
Chris Arnade 🐢🐱🚌@Chris_arnade
This is another example of why walking across an entire city, or a region passing through cities, gives you a better understanding of a place. When you walk across Milan, or from Dusseldorf to Bonn, you see that Europe isn't nearly as economically wealthy as the US. If you stick to tourist centers -- London, Paris, Milan -- you only see the wealthiest, and not the often dreary suburban apartment block bleah where most people live
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@powderski @shagbark_hick Hang out on the weekends and after work
We have kids and wives so like plays with like, thus all *want* to hang out, so we do
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@harold_bracy @shagbark_hick how do you guys make time for each other now that you all have families and careers
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The grand prize of the 21st century goes to the one who can find 12 like-minded men, convince them to all move to the same dirt-cheap rural town, help them all find wives, and pray they all have large families.
There are infinite opportunities for any who can figure this out.
Karras@realKarras
@callsgnvisigodo @shagbark_hick One big problem is that it's hard to get a couple dozen men to even hang out together, let alone take over a town. We are very individualistic today.
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@Empty_America Wouldn't that imply that churches exist by leave of the state?
Or to take a less inflammatory example, book clubs?
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The way I square my libertarian and anti-libertarian impulses is to say that corporations exist by the leave of the state, for specific publicly beneficial purposes.
I wouldn't punish anyone for weed or gambling or whoring on a petty level, but no Draftkings, no Pornhubs.
Lost Nomad@lost_nomad__
@Empty_America Right, I would still consider the ability to form & utilize organizations (both for profit or not) to be a freedom
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@shagbark_hick I work as a software engineer from home. My job is low stress, I enjoy it, I'm good at it, and I'm able to spend almost *too* much time with my wife and kids.
It's not dirt cheap, so my example shows that there are other ways to achieving what you describe.
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During early childhood, not only should the mother not work -- the dad should really try not to work very much either.
Families should go to great lengths to maximize time spent with mother, father, and child.
This is a lot of why I've ever been into extreme frugality, anti-9-to-5, etc. Because I had an absent father, and it sucked. I noticed that many of my childhood friends whose fathers worked "real jobs" suffered similar problems as I did. Nobody was teaching the boys to be men; dads were too busy working to protect their daughters. Even if mom was home and didn't work, they missed out on their father's presence in the home.
The kids that turned out the best seemed to have grown up in households where mom never worked, dad only occasionally worked (part-time, self-employed, various "hustles"), both parents spent tons of time with the kids, and usually, this lifestyle was made possible by the fact that the family owned their home outright, with no mortgage.
"Jobs" as we know them are a novel product of the industrial revolution. Nothing about them is really anthropologically normal. And so far as family formation is concerned, a father who works a full-time job is almost as much of as hazard as a mother who works at all.
The true key is a dirt-cheap, sub-$50k house, zero debt, and an ultra-low-cost lifestyle, so that dad can work very casually, occasionally, etc.
Clare Anne Ath@clareanneath
What opinion do you have about parenting young children that would have you like this?
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@levelsio I've done travel for months on end with toddlers
Yes, it's best to be adaptable and be *able* to move on a dime
But you also want to be anchored in a deep community, church, family, friends.
This is best psychologically, morally, spiritually.
Commitment is manly
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Also related how settling somewhere increasingly doesn't mean anything anymore
Even with kids and family people are more mobile than ever and just hop to the next place
Which is especially beneficial in a geopolitically unstable world where any place can be the next war zone
Better be mobile than not!
@levelsio@levelsio
I kinda love the retardmaxxxing here Move somewhere, then if it sucks don't accept sunk costs and just move out in less than a month 👌
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@shagbark_hick This exact place exists, but it's in the Northern Andes
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The more I think about it, the more I think that my ideal residence would be like this:
A secluded house on the edge of a town of maybe 8,000 people. Set on a hill, shrouded in privacy bushes, bordering state land, waterfront on a navigable river. As few immediate neighbors as possible. Walking distance to town; public bus in town.
Several reverent Catholic Churches near by, preferably a mix of Latin Mass, Reverent Novus Ordo, and Byzantine Liturgies. At least one grocery store, hardware store, a decent library. Amtrak fairly close by; accessible by bus.
There, you've got a boat and use it as your primary mode of transportation, mooring your boat at your private dock. You forego owning an automobile, as you find them totally tasteless and stupid.
You wake up every morning, fire up the outboard on your leaky old square-stern canoe, and motor downriver to go to daily Mass. Immediately after, you station yourself on a bench in the public waterfront park, eat three hard-boiled eggs, open a flask of hot tea, and proceed to read all day. Everyone sees you, they greet you politely but they genuinely wonder what you do all day.
Your estate is entirely wooded; it cannot be seen from the road nor from satellite, which infuriates the local building code enforcer. In the riverine zone by your waterfront, you plant a few hundred hazelnut bushes and keep a guesthouse there. Vague acquaintances are always coming and going, bringing your trinkets from around the world, asking for advice, mumbling their sorrows and their hopes, drinking with you on your back deck as the sun sets.
Some days, you take the boat to a publicly-owned island, where you trap beaver or shoot squirrels, or cast a line out for trout. You sit there all day, smoking cheap cigars, mumbling to yourself. You haven't had a job in 40 years. All of your kids also have motorized square-stern canoes; you see them coming up and down the river, ferrying live meat birds (mostly quail) downriver to the Asians who pay good money for them right at the roadside under the bridge. They're an industrious bunch of children; real "river rats," and you're a proud father.
Yes, I can see it now. On the outskirts of some filthy old town in Upstate New York, riding around in my ragged old canoe, subsisting on rice and cabbage and chicken gizzards and tea, luxuriating by the woodstove in forested privacy at my hidden estate.
And what's interesting about all this is that it's actually quite readily attainable. I'm halfway there, really.
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A short while ago, in full coordination with the local community of Debel in southern Lebanon, the damaged statue was replaced by IDF troops. The Northern Command worked to coordinate the replacement of the statue from the moment it received the report of the incident.
The IDF expresses deep regret over the incident, and is working to ensure that it does not happen again in the future.
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You often see the most beautiful Square Body Chevy's in pictures from the middle east.
Sumerian Catgirl@AnbarBaddie
traditional Iraqi black abaya
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@Empty_America IMO this won't happen. Leeches tend to hire leeches. Hospitals admin leech off the government. There's so much money they don't notice the leeches that leech of the leech.
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In the hospital of the near future, there will still be doctors and nurses.
But there might be 1/10 of the billing and records staff.
This is GOOD.
The individuals will find more productive work, just like occurred with all prior labor saving machines.
Tom Ruby@bgcts
@Empty_America There was always going to be a burst of the email desk job bubble. AI is merely hadtening that burst. Even without AI there was only so long before colleges with 2-1 non-faculty to faculty closed. Before a manufacturer with more managers and afmin than line workers failed.
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@Empty_America If you are close to the money printer of the World Reserve Currency you not have to do anything
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What is always overlooked here is that many things aren't getting done at all, there is no lack of "work" in the abstract.
Take a drive, see all the stuff that is shabby, falling down, etc.
That is partly because too many people are employed as "consultants" and so forth.
TFTC@TFTC21
Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei: “50% of all tech jobs, entry-level lawyers, consultants, and finance professionals will be completely wiped out within 1–5 years.”
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In fact, men don't seem to get "rowdy" at all anymore, now that I think about it.
It's actually noteworthy to see young men really cutting loose really anywhere I go. Young guys don't speak candidly, they don't drink much, they don't go out much, you just barely see them.
Wasn't that long ago (and I'm not that old) that there were regular hell-raising bonfires, nights out 'honkytonking,' you name it, we were out there doing it. County to county, just having plain old fun, drinking beers, singing old Hank on the Jukebox, whatever.
Literally any time I go out now, I'm drinking exclusively with men in their 60's or older. Maybe some bring their wives, some don't. But at my local pub you're practically more likely to see a moose out front (which is very rare) than you are to see a group of young men really getting down and having fun.
Genuinely sad when you think about it.
𝙷𝚒𝚌𝚔𝚖𝚊𝚗@shagbark_hick
It's true: the men I meet at most Catholic Churches do seem to be fairly timid, measured, even nervously pious. Trad or not, it's very often the case. Nothing wrong with that at all -- but we're sorely lacking in Catholic rowdies and ruffians. We need some medieval-type mannerbund energy going on at our Churches. Bring back the post-Mass cask of ale; unbutton the top button for once and speak candidly, say your piece, linger long at the tavern, make the boys all raise their glasses when you walk in. I don't mind temperately sipping coffee and nerding out about theology in the Parish basement for thirty minutes after Mass, but at some point, we've all gotta break out of that and really let loose in the way that men ought to.
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@shagbark_hick Skiing is *the* life hack to living in the North in the modern era
10+ feet of snow becomes desirable!
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California is one case where being from Upstate NY really shines.
If I moved there today, the taxes and laws would feel "normal" to me, except I'd be chilling in the sun instead of getting 10+ feet of snow. People are way friendlier, food is great.
It's just a matter of getting up enough cash together to buy a place, but honestly, it's not that bad depending on where you go.
If I sold both my houses here in NY I could probably afford Twentynine Palms, Barstow, Imperial Valley, Bakersfield. Could maybe afford a condo in San Bernadino or even closer to LA.
It'd be a nice life compared to what's on offer in Upstate NY, and there'd be no real "adjustment" to the suite of nutty laws in taxes that come with life in California. As a NYer, I'm already dealing with worse in many ways.
Mitt@MittCPA
literally just pay the taxes, it’ll change your life
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@Empty_America Sports and building. wtf, there's so much just in those two.
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In settings where War and Hard Labor are no longer important, no one even knows what a man is for.
If life is just school and then paperwork jobs, they start seemingly like defective women.
Produce some high IQ outliers who mog women, but the *average* guy is worse at that.
Pratyush@pratyushbuddiga
This isn’t a novel observation, but being a dad of a now-13 month old son and observing other parents makes you feel it viscerally: We as a modern society have no idea to raise young boys into men today. The past 30 years of treating them as maladaptive or overactive girls was a complete disaster as everyone is increasingly aware of. Gender-neutral is also a farce from a biological and cultural perspective. Some will say the solution is to go super traditional, but honestly that feels like a bit of LARP if you live in the city or suburbs or want your kid to integrate eventually. We also live in a society with other people - monthly hunting or camping trips or whatever other “trad” activities you try to do doesn’t overcome the socialization from everyone surrounding them or online. All high-income jobs involve the mind, not your hands (TBD if true in a post-AI world.) Churches, schools, clubs, etc. seem to have no answers. What does it even mean to be a man in today’s world that is radically different than anything else in all of human history? Without answering that question, it seems impossible to even start with the question of how to raise a boy. I honestly don’t have any answers, but just pondering out loud because clearly no one really has a clue right now.
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@ZyMazza It's hard for a tight friend group to even decide where to eat
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Why is it so hard to actually realize projects like this?
People talk about it all the time, clearly love to fantasize. Resources aren’t hard usually, if you can get 10-15 together.
They always seem to die in the talking stage
dounbug@dounbug
i am recruiting a select group of individuals to purchase the abandoned 700 castle village in turkey where we will live out the rest of our days
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@conditionalZep1 I'm not even going to tell you, its better that you don't know the truth.
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Might be possible but you aren't getting a lot of treats or variety.
Rice, pork butt, gallons of whole milk, some cabbages.
Uzi@UziCryptoo
my boomer dad just tried to convince me that he could buy groceries for 4 for an entire month with $150 and i’d really like to see him try
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