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Los Angeles, CA Katılım Haziran 2009
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Richard Gipps
Richard Gipps@DrGipps·
to a more ordinarily intelligible, less obviously wrongly theorised, phenomenon.
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Richard Gipps
Richard Gipps@DrGipps·
Why “recast death drive as aggression”? In Freud, the DD is either nirvana principle or self-destructive impulse turned outward. But other-destructive impulse - aggression - is just that - we don’t need to call it “death drive” and IMO it looks pretentious to dress it up thus. …
Tom Wooldridge@TomDWooldridge

Bion was a supervisee of Klein, who reworked Freud’s death drive, casting it as innate aggression (instead of the pull toward entropy). In the ‘attacks on linking paper’, Bion describes how patients can evacuate meaning altogether.

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human age@human__age·
@Lmsnow3 @DrGipps yeah i can't do dense nonfiction on audio. it's nice in theory and then it's in one ear out the other 😆
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Richard Gipps
Richard Gipps@DrGipps·
Jonathan Lear on psychoanalysis and outcome studies: "The aim of psychoanalysis is psychoanalysis. And when it comes to this aim, no other treatment modality can match it!"
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human age@human__age·
@EricConk32 @MoyaSarner @chris_cannida @JonathanShedler CBT has schemas. Psychoanalysis has the unconscious', both of which seem to converge with contemp. neuroscience, eg predictive processing. We develop implicit/unconscious models which then become filters through which we see/understand our world.
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Jonathan Shedler
Jonathan Shedler@JonathanShedler·
Some wonder why psychoanalytic therapists use the word “object” (eg, “object relations theory”) when they usually mean “person” As a therapy tradition that’s evolved over a century and a quarter, we have a legacy of historical terms that sound at best quaint, at worst strange and off-putting, to pretty much everyone else. Sometimes, psychoanalytic clinicians forget how inaccessible our terminology is to others “Object” is a vestige of classical psychoanalytic drive theory, which has long since been superseded by more contemporary psychoanalytic models. To understand it, we have to go back more than 100 years. Drive theory was concerned with needs, desires, and urges. Drives were understood as having a *source* (eg, a biologically-based need or desire), an *aim* (a purpose, generally to meet the need / fulfill the desire), and an *object* (the person or thing needed or wanted—to whom the feelings are directed) Many needs and desires are specifically directed toward other people. Thus, a person is often the object of a drive or desire. The term is used in the sense we might say, eg, of the object of her attention, the object of his affection, the object of her desire, the object of his rage, etc. So there is desire, and the object of desire So now it may make more sense when we say that a drive has an object This is a largely outdated psychoanalytic theory and outdated terminology. If you read psychoanalytic journals, you will not find these concepts mentioned, except occasionally in a historic context In contemporary usage, “object” generally refers to a person, or to an internal/mental representation of a person—that is, the image we hold in our minds of a person (which may be accurate or inaccurate, realistic or distorted, simple or complex) Arguably, after a century and a quarter, our terminology could use some updating. But that’s where the term comes from and why it is used Just in case anyone was wondering
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human age@human__age·
@KemtrupTweets @EricConk32 I for one appreciate this back and forth and think it echoes common criticisms of PsA, so I think it’s an important discussion. Even if frustrating to have.
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Kemtrup
Kemtrup@KemtrupTweets·
@EricConk32 I will respond no further as I get bored by this sort of thing but strongly hope you study some philosophy of science and really engage in deep thinking instead of some “science not science” game that you think is interesting or useful to either actual scientists or philosophers
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Kemtrup@KemtrupTweets·
A note on psychoanalytic theory and scientific justification. Most psychoanalytic terms and concepts deployed in psychoanalytic papers and in clinical consultation and supervision are best thought of as metaphors: A metaphor offers a lens through which to see and each
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Eric Conklin
Eric Conklin@EricConk32·
Appreciate the thoughtful response. I agree the human mind is complex and warrants diverse methods, but complexity doesn’t justify abandoning falsifiability. Even critics of Popper, like Lakatos and Feyerabend, didn’t endorse “whatever feels right in the clinic.” They expanded the philosophy of science, but still demanded risk of refutation, not interpretive immunity. Cognitive neuroscience and attachment research are also complex, yet they produce testable hypotheses and evolve when disproven. Why should psychoanalytic models be exempt? Explanatory power and coherence are important, but without the possibility of disconfirming evidence, they risk becoming interpretive echo chambers. If we’re going to treat real people with real consequences, falsifiability isn’t just a philosophical ideal, it’s the bare minimum for scientific accountability.
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Richard Gipps
Richard Gipps@DrGipps·
@KemtrupTweets Agree with what you say but couldn't see how it relates to the liver dude's con??
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human age@human__age·
human age@human__age

The great @oliverburkeman on AI, creativity, and psychotherapy: "The point about a good novel produced by a human (or a song, or painting, or dare I say it, an email newsletter) isn’t that only a human *could ever* have produced it. It’s that a human *did in fact* produce it."

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Marc Tibber
Marc Tibber@MarcTibber3·
#TherapistTwitter: what are the aspects of therapy / a genuine therapeutic relationship that you think cannot be meaningfully replicated by an AI therapist? I.e. if you were going to make a case for us being irreplaceable, what factors would you highlight?
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Steve Stewart-Williams
Steve Stewart-Williams@SteveStuWill·
Parenting practices seem to have little or no impact on children's personalities, contrary to some of the best-known theories in psychology. (Longitudinal study; N = 3,880) [Link below.]
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Joshua Eustis
Joshua Eustis@telefontelaviv·
This is a really beautiful film and I can’t wait for you all to see it. John Hughes III with a lead off homer. I’m on score duties: deadline.com/2025/06/john-h…
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human age@human__age·
@DrGipps ^ giving this a bump in case it slipped through the cracks
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human age@human__age·
@DrGipps Fair to say that there is far too much pseudo-mentalization about infant experience in PsA? Or just too much extrapolation to adults from infancy? Both?
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Richard Gipps
Richard Gipps@DrGipps·
Much enjoying re-reading this paper by Edward Harcourt. (It takes apart the popular psychoanalytic idea that adult psychopathology = immaturity; that pathological narcissism / boundarylessness / PS position in adults is of similar form to infantile expeirence.)
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Richard Gipps
Richard Gipps@DrGipps·
So I confess I’ve never found anything useful for my clinical practice in Lacan and his followers. But what about you - which of his concepts or theories do you find most genuinely helpful for your patients?
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mrs. wind up bird
mrs. wind up bird@pop_mycology·
I despise the number of “raising awareness of my child’s mental illness/developmental disability” Instagram accounts that exist. It’s so clearly a cathartic venting project imbued with unacknowledged anger towards their kids.
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