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@iantn84

Liverpool Katılım Mayıs 2010
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 Perception is from a league title to being legged consistently. Is from a league title to being abject nearly every week. Is from a league title to very good footballers seemingly without a clue. Like, why is Szobozlai legging it round when McAllister can't move? Any plan there?
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SAM G-W@OneSGW·
@iantn84 @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 My reality is what I see. Evidence, regression with age, a team broken by loss and therefore a lack of preparation. This debate always comes down to one thing, fans thinking Slot has missed something that they can’t explain. There’s no evidence to the contrary
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YNWA-ANDY
YNWA-ANDY@YNWAANDY28·
Just leaving this here for all the whoppers who seem to think that all football seasons should be smooth sailing! This was 20/21 season...this was our title defence under Klopp. Shit happens. We go again whoever is is charge, whoever plays 💪🏻 Support or fuck off to Chelsea 👋🏻
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 There is always different ways to do everything. Could those different ways made us worse? Course. But we turned out too many tepid, flat & poor performances for it to be excused in its entirety.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 Your reality, yeah. Not everyone else's. The fact that you seem obtuse to that based solely on the fact that 'no one has told me how it could be different' is a mad stance to take, for me.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 Why would you see anything? We are just fans who watch & determine with our eyes if it is good or bad then weigh any mitigation into analysis. As you've repeatedly said as well!
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SAM G-W@OneSGW·
@iantn84 @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 Mate watch the robbo interview. That’s all you need to see. It’s that simple. This is elite level sport where planning & pre season is everything to a campaign. I still havnt seen any type of alternative solution or example of what slot could have done with this team.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 If anyone says anything different on the player points on impact of Jota - you argue against it. I point to other points they make & you say "they aren't being truthful". Come on, lad. Not after you to crucify them here. Just admittance that it hasn't been good enough at all.
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SAM G-W@OneSGW·
@iantn84 @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 They can’t say “it’s been a right off from the get go” can they. The reality is, internally any real expectations would have been shelved because the impact would have been so raw & unknown to some degree. No one can say that when people pay to see used.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 Agreed. But players & the manager also have spoken how this season has not remotely been good enough regardless of all that but you don't, seemingly, engage with those points as vigorously. Like the other day when I said Slot has underperformed & you disputed that.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 Plus mitigation around Jota etc,. These are not things that we don't all see & have an understanding of - we just all treat them differently.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 But you don't to the points I am making. Your defence of the manager, to label it as something there, is little to do with any behind the scenes convos but to do with what you deem as the make up of the squad, what has (in your eyes) happened on the picture vs the perception.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 I could excuse you of attempting to know more than others but find it churlish to do so. All fans should be doing is discussing opinions & thoughts. That is, ultimately, what we have at our disposal to do.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @carlton_hero @YNWAANDY28 Everyone's opinion is based on what they see initially & then what they see falls into their opinions. No one is more guilty of that than anyone else. I've seen how sreadfastly rebutted anything about Slots performance to the extent that, for me, it isn't logical anymore.
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SAM G-W@OneSGW·
@iantn84 @YNWAANDY28 Good on you. Personally, I’ve become disappointed & disillusioned with our conduct this year. People within the club say “the noise is so loud” but they are upset by it. I feel a sense of having to defend our own club against our own fans. It’s insane
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @YNWAANDY28 Maybe just me really. Speak & converse like I would do on the Kop or in the boozer around the ground. No need for any difference.
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SAM G-W@OneSGW·
@iantn84 @YNWAANDY28 Ye that’s a bit mad. Fair enough. Also why Chelsea? Haha I don’t think people can talk on here like they can in real life because you generate money on here through engagement, conversation, tone & body language also matters in real life. I get you though.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @YNWAANDY28 Entirely up to you, obviously, but I ain't behaving different on here than I would in person so will debate & discuss without widening the chasm of things by telling people to "fuck off & support Chelsea". That's just me though.
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SAM G-W@OneSGW·
@iantn84 @YNWAANDY28 The problem is mate, plenty of people, myself included have tried to offer sensible reasoning & deeper understanding, showing critical thinking & some actual thought into why it has gone wrong & no one gives a fuck. That’s why I call a spade a spade.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @YNWAANDY28 Not impossible though, is it? Difficult & rare maybe but letting that drive your own standards doesn't aid the conversation at all.
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SAM G-W@OneSGW·
@iantn84 @YNWAANDY28 Middle ground is impossible these days be sure it has become about wanting Slot sacked then writing about why he should have even though the powers that be have decided otherwise.
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @liverpaul66 That's mostly gone. Thankfully a good per cent that go retain enough that it can peak at certain points. But overall now? Nah. We are just another club really.
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SAM G-W@OneSGW·
@iantn84 @liverpaul66 100%. Someone said to me recently “I am at peace with it all now became I know my relationship with the club and that’s all that matters”. I wish I felt that way because I am sacred we are losing what makes us, us.
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Melvin wood@liverpaul66·
If only the PL wasn't the monster, it is. The days of supporters singing off a similar hymm sheet are well gone. Social media and millions of fans who have little clue about what it means to support your club have changed the landscape and not for the better
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @liverpaul66 I don't think they are great or shite. Depends on who it is being reached. The culture of society has changed & it has bled into football support. Too much money in the game.
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SAM G-W@OneSGW·
@iantn84 @liverpaul66 Fan channels are great, generally, but as we have seen in all clubs and especially this season with ours, false narrative can be driven. We are the last of the big clubs to fall into the trap. But this year we have. Our fan base hasn’t shown itself well
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Ian Newbury
Ian Newbury@iantn84·
@OneSGW @liverpaul66 Yeah, deffo. I don't blame fan channels as it is part of the social media world that has developed around everything but everything is picked apart to fuck now.
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SAM G-W@OneSGW·
@iantn84 @liverpaul66 Ye it’s a far cry from our early days. I remember finding out about signings from the echo
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