Invizive

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Invizive

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Invizive@invizive·
Systemantics: How Systems Work and Especially How They Fail by John Gall, unironically a must-read. Extremely short, straight to the point It is a great book to comprehend how bloated organizations create entropy of purpose and competence even when everyone has good intentions
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It's bizarre how a monstrosity like Microsoft can chew through people no matter how good they are. I personally (well, through Internet) know some Microsoft employees who are very good at programming individually. But it seems like either there are fewer and fewer of them in the company, or the non-technical side of microsoft became so incredibly Kafkaesque that it's simply impossible to fix it even if you are good at your job. My team leading experience is all with very small teams, so I don't know what it is to manage huge departments. I'd really like to read or listen to some good insights of why rot like this even happens. Like, I have some ideas of course, but it's always better to talk with hands-on people.

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@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 It might think anything, it doesn't matter What matters is what general consensus settles on, and it's often quite different from the laws that are heavily influenced by lobbyists and straight up corruption
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Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi·
@invizive @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 うん公共に思われてなくても企業自身は利益追求が高貴でありまた自身の発展が公共に結びつくと思い込むこともあるでしょ？
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Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi·
@invizive @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 これ完全に別の話だから無視してくれて構わないんだけど、その高貴とみなされるなら法律を上回るって概念のあやふやさが君達の社会を滅茶苦茶にしてる様に思えてならないんだ そう金稼ぎが高貴たる企業によって この数日の議論で知っただけの僕が口出すのはおこがましいんだけどさ
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@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 It is usually very easy to see whether someone earns anything from an endeavor as there are no fees Anyone, including fan authors, who asks any money for content involving someone else's IP needs a lot of credibility to not be shunned for that
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Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi·
@invizive @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 その無料ならって概念に君達はピュアすぎると思うんだ その人が何も得てないのか、誰にも損害を与えていないのか検証してる？ 君達は自分達の言語でコンテンツを楽しむっていう高貴な目的のために海賊版を無料でアップロードするよね？
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はくまい🍙日常垢@omusubirolling1·
以前「日本人もグローバルな公共性のオープンソースなどの恩恵に預かっているのに、自分たちだけ公共性に貢献しないのはフリーライドだ」と海外からは見られているのだ、と書いている日本人の意見を目にしました。 誰もが公共性の恩恵にあずかってるから恩返しをすべき、という理屈なら理解できます。
Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi

@omusubirolling1 彼らと話して少しだけ理解したので共有します 彼らは公共性があればルールは破られても構わないという概念があります つまり罪に問われようが別に何とも思わないのです 今回で言えばゲームの保存が公共性にあたるようです そして公共性の判断は主観的なので自分が正しいと思ったら止まりません

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@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 Rule of thumb is lack of intent to profit - if a person does something without expecting reward then they are likely to be driven by charity There's no expectation of catching every edge case in an unofficial provisional interpretation of a flawed law
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Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi·
@invizive @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 高貴とみなされるは誰が判定するの？ 例え現存するゲームでも海賊版を許容してるあなた達にそれをする資格はないと思うんだ
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@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 That's how it should work in an ideal scenario, but most of the excess goes into speculation or vanity R&D can't grow by just throwing money at it endlessly, there is a maximum pace, and after achieving that limit the rest of the money is wasted
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Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi·
@invizive @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 別に利益率が高かろうがそれが開発に回るならいいでしょ？ 利益率が高いから開発にコストを回し新しい物がうまれる 利益率が低ければ開発費はなくなり新しい物が開発できない 社会的なインフラに対するコストは税金や賃金で払ってるでしょ
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Invizive@invizive·
@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 Fair use has no temporal limits, its limit is defined by purpose of copying Fair use, and Stop Killing Games initiative, represent how public in many places wants to interact with intellectual property x.com/invizive/statu…
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@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 What you propose is to dilute the law by making it less extreme in length, but the other idea is to dilute it by making exceptions for what is perceived as noble causes and keep the law severe for everything else Both are provisional approaches until a proper law comes

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Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi·
@invizive @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 じゃあ具体的に何年待てばいいか、それは議論の必要があるだろうね 例えばフェアユースでも範囲は決まってるよね、そこに照らし合わせるとかできないのかな？
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Invizive@invizive·
@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 What you propose is to dilute the law by making it less extreme in length, but the other idea is to dilute it by making exceptions for what is perceived as noble causes and keep the law severe for everything else Both are provisional approaches until a proper law comes
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Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi·
@invizive @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 部分的に従う価値がないってのはわかるんだけどさ全て従う価値がないとするのが理解できないんだよね、個人的にそこに凄く飛躍を感じて都合よくフリーライドしてる様に思えてしまうんだ 終わって10年もたってない物を無料で誰にでも配布するのは流石にやり過ぎだと思うんだ
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Invizive@invizive·
@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 I only claim that socialization of burdens should match the socialization of benefits Making public services less accessible to the companies so that the balance is achieved is fine by me as well Again, R&D should be compensated, but the profit margins are too large nowadays
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Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi·
@invizive @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 君の言ってる事は社会主義なら達成されそうだね 薬や義肢を安く提供する事は社会一般で言えば合理的だけど発展や開発という意味では非合理的だよ 製薬会社なんて日本でも暴利を貪る代表としてみなされてるよ、海外に依存する事の問題もね、だから税金を投入して自国開発させてる
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@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 The law as it is appears to have too many holes for abuse and many countries expressed desire to update it Combine it with its relative youth, and you get much lesser respect for it - a law that is both too rushed and too outdated to be a public good isn't worth following
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@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 Information copying was not even close to being a seamless process without complex logistics, making many fundamental assumptions of the law obsolete Also, many issues and edge cases were not considered as there was no experience, only flawed hypothetical situations =>
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Invizive@invizive·
@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 The burden is implied to be shared already as the companies benefit from infrastructure and public services, including education of people who do the research for them Again, emphasis on reasonability is important - many companies go far beyond covering R&D expenses nowadays
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Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi·
@invizive @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 薬もそう、命を救い世界を発展させるのに金を取るんだ 幸い日本は国民皆保険だからあまりかからないけど けど使用料を取って資金を集めないと新たな開発は見込めない 著作権や特許に不信感があるのは分かるけど開発を無視しすぎ どうしても必要なら日本の保険みたいに皆で負担し正規の料金を払うべき
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@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 I won't specifically comment on NieR as it is a narrow case, but copyright laws as they exist internationally, with Japanese laws not differing much, are considered to be created without wisdom or understanding of the technology they were written for, therefore being invalid
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@ship5_kesizumi @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 There's a difference between price drops - 10x within a year is not achieved by new participants who had no time to set proper supply chains unless the initial price was ridiculously unfair And criticism means nothing, it doesn't cut into sales when you are a monopoly
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Kesizumi@ship5_kesizumi·
@invizive @pot_tat_to @omusubirolling1 特許の価格を不当につりあげてたの？なんでそれは批判されなかったの？ 特許が切れたら価格が下がるなんてよくある事 特許料を取れるから企業は開発するんだよ、それが無かったらそもそも存在すらしないかもしれない
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@izayoidami @Blabalama As for large companies with no coherence, they are usually a lost cause that would from that point on slowly rot and make everyone inside them miserable, with company decisions being combinations of misery and cynicism of its individual participants
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@izayoidami @Blabalama On the last question, public opinion generally supports the one who is perceived as with higher artistic merit and therefore more valuable to the culture, no matter the legal opinion - see Super Meat Boy discussions as an example
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All-bones Jones@AllbonesJones·
I guess the NieR situation is: 🇯🇵: All things are impermanent and you must respect the creator's wishes, even if you dislike his decision. 🇺🇸: Humans are impermanent. Art is not. We must preserve art so the future is beautiful. Ancient Greeks would call this an incompatible telos
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@Blabalama @izayoidami Company size generally determines that, but there are also studios with less a dozen people who sabotage each other It is a rule of thumb that any large company is predatory because it is just where mathematical equilibrium between many different ambitions settles
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bleh@Blabalama·
@invizive @izayoidami I generally agree with this point. I also do think the company size might matter a bit. How much does the creator actually have a say in what gets done, when things like profit, target audience, etc become more important? I assume the creator has less influence? Am I wrong?
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