jae
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@rainpudle @Absolunar if they were in a self-perpetuating online community that encouraged people to be more depressed and indulge their depression at every moment yes. like what?
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@boneswasted @loverxrat @ddicted2nic @berriesnbones they experience real systemic disadvantage and are even criminalized for it, unlike fat people, so yes
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@jaecdu7 @loverxrat @ddicted2nic @berriesnbones so addicts / the homeless aren't oppressed according to you
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@ddicted2nic @mar1onett @berriesnbones if you have the option to completely opt out of it, you can not systematically oppressed for it. it may be difficult due to varying factors but losing weight is always possible 🤷
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@jaecdu7 @mar1onett @berriesnbones Im not spitting in the faces of anyone dude i am a lesbian and a poc!! I do believe fat people are oppressed as i understand oppression as an oppressed person. I see how it effects people and I believe it fits the definition. I'm not watering down shit.
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@jaecdu7 @mar1onett @berriesnbones People do not look down upon acne as severely as they do being fat. and i literally just said it was interpersonal not systemic...! but it certainly can be correlated with that considering how it overlaps with racism and classism.
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@ddicted2nic @mar1onett @berriesnbones if we define any pattern of unfair treatment as oppression, the term becomes so watered down it stops being analytically useful, because almost every group experiences some form of bias. and that is spitting in the face of real minorities that are criminalized or even killed
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@jaecdu7 @mar1onett @berriesnbones There is more than one type of oppression brother. and unfair treatment and stigma is PART of that different type of oppression. It's an umbrella term.
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@ddicted2nic @mar1onett @berriesnbones that’s a question of fairness, not oppression. oppression is systemic, institutional barriers that restrict a group’s rights or access to society. unfair treatment or stigma can exist without it being a distinct system of oppression. do i need to repeat the definition again
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@jaecdu7 @mar1onett @berriesnbones You keep bringing up that they can just change but the point is they shouldn't have to to be treated decently/better.
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@ddicted2nic @mar1onett @berriesnbones with your logic, i am oppressed for having acne. i experience societal judgement, unsolicited health advice and unfair medical bias, etc. it also isn’t deemed conventionally attractive like fatness, so 🤷 according to you real systemic exclusion is not necessary
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@jaecdu7 @mar1onett @berriesnbones I do believe that unfair bias can be considered oppression. It seems like we just fundamentally disagree on that. Also where tf did the acne come from lmao there is no acnephobia. There IS fatphobia and it is very prevalent.
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@ddicted2nic @mar1onett @berriesnbones most of these “systems” are inconsistent and context-based, like workplace requirements or medical bias, rather than an institutional system designed to exclude people based on weight. it’s simply stigma, not real structural oppression
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@jaecdu7 @mar1onett @berriesnbones you do get dehumanized for being fat. there are systems which devalue fat bodies. This intersects with other oppressed groups constantly. It exists on its own as its own form of oppression because you can be discriminated against on the basis of being fat.
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@ddicted2nic @mar1onett @berriesnbones funny bc historically being overweight used to be seen as desirable and a sign of privilege and wealth. the treatment of fat people nowadays is a cultural shift as a result of changing beauty standards, not genuine systemic oppression.
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@jaecdu7 @mar1onett @berriesnbones one ear and out the other omg. What is the definition of oppression according to your standards??
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@mar1onett @ddicted2nic @berriesnbones a fat person is not going to die at the hands of hatred. to try and argue this to a trans person is honestly laughable
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@jaecdu7 @ddicted2nic @berriesnbones Today’s standards of extreme skinny and dieting culture definitely endanger the lives of people subject to it by causing eating disorders and other mental health issues. Especially those who dont fit the standard like OW people, or people with naturally larger body compositions
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@loverxrat @ddicted2nic @berriesnbones if you can change an aspect about yourself, you can not be oppressed for it, simple. the word oppressed has meaning, let’s not water it down because you’re sad about a couple mean comments
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@mar1onett @ddicted2nic @berriesnbones as a result of real systemic oppression that could endanger their lives. comparing that to being shamed for being fat is pathetic.
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@jaecdu7 @ddicted2nic @berriesnbones Lots of queer ppl literally try to change themselves to become straight because it doesn’t fit societies norms, many disabled people try to hide their disability, and same with POC who whitewash themselves to try and fit conventional beauty standards
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@ddicted2nic @berriesnbones not fitting beauty standards does not make you oppressed. you also can not be oppressed for something that you can change about yourself. gay people can’t become straight, poc can’t become white, disabled people can’t become able bodied. but you can lose weight
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@jaecdu7 @berriesnbones so you agree. theyre viewed unfavorably as lesser than/unworthy of respect because of their size through social norms and prejudice. Sounds like a form of opression to me...
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@dolluii having a restrictive ed is inherently fatphobic 🤷♀️
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