Jason_Morman
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Jason_Morman
@jason_morman
#Family #American Facts Over Opinions. Constitution Over Change. #ForThePeople #DreamBig Prepare a Future
Georgia, USA Katılım Temmuz 2013
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@Sacramentshow Jesus is God the Son. Not God the Father. Mary Gave birth to Jesus the Son on earth as He was incarnated. Jesus has existed eternally with God the Father & God the Holy Spirit before creation. She was the vessel for his incarnation. & His mother yes. Veneration not scriptural
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@gncv @MrCasey62 It’s no more a concession that scripture does not say what I claim than it is that scripture does not say what you claim. Scripture does not say plainly anything for EITHER position. We believe what we believe based on what we read and how we interpret. No absolute truth exists
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No absolute truth either way” is not a defense of your claim. It is a concession that Scripture does not say what you claimed it says.
The Bible says Jesus had “brothers.” It does not say Mary had other sons. Those are not the same claim.
You are taking an ambiguous family term, adding a biological conclusion Scripture never states, then pretending Catholics are the ones inventing doctrine.
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@gncv @MrCasey62 Where in scripture is it recorded that Mary DIDNT have other children? We can do this all day. It says he had brothers and sisters. Do we know they are Mary’s kids? No. We also don’t know that they weren’t either. There is no absolute truth either way on this position.
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@jason_morman @MrCasey62 Where in Scripture or any early Christian writing is it recorded that anyone apart from Jesus was named a child of the Blessed Virgin Mary?
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@SpaceReno @MrCasey62 That’s irrelevant. Doesn’t matter when they questioned it. The truth or lack of does not care when it is found.
Again. Like I always ask. Where is the scripture of Mary’s perpetual virginity?
I can produce scripture that says Jesus has brothers and sisters. Etc. Where’s yours
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@jason_morman @MrCasey62 Virtually no Christian questioned Mary’s perpetual virginity prior to the Reformation.
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@PaulDel38395510 @MrCasey62 @patrickmadrid Oh. See you should’ve just led with that. You don’t trust the Bible. Understood. That’s all I needed to know.
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@jason_morman @MrCasey62 @patrickmadrid Either you don't understand scripture, or the people that learned from the Apostles and authors of scripture don't understand scripture. You are reading something written 2000 years ago, in a different language, in a different culture. Straight reads are not reliable.
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LOL! @patrickmadrid provides over FIFTY verses from the gospels refuting her “there is no way” argument. Which means her accusation is based solely on the fact that she doesn’t KNOW the gospels.
patrickmadrid.substack.com/p/yes-jesus-wa…

Lizzie Marbach@LizzieMarbach
There is no way for any honest person to read the gospels and come away believing Mary was a perpetual virgin. 🤷🏼♀️
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@jason_morman @MrCasey62 Consider:
‘Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas.’ Matthew 13:55
‘ …Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.’ Luke 2:48
/1 continued 👇🏻
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@Renee1HCAC @MrCasey62 @patrickmadrid They could be. But if Joseph’s kids from another marriage then why did they come with Mary and not Joseph or their other mother? Fact is we don’t know. Neither Protestants nor Catholics know for certain. To to blatantly tell each other we are wrong or mock one another is bad
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@jason_morman @MrCasey62 @patrickmadrid They could be stepbrothers and sisters, correct? You assume they're half brothers and sisters, correct?
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@SpaceReno @MrCasey62 No Christian believes Joseph is Jesus biological father. Jesus was born of a virgin. It doesn’t mean Mary remained one. Doesn’t even allude to it. What are you talking about. Fact is there is not matter of fact proof for either position.
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@jason_morman @MrCasey62 Now, if we take these two verses in isolation- as you do the evangelical proof texts dealing with Jesus’ ‘brothers’ - the logical conclusion is that Joseph is Jesus’ natural biological father, which is incorrect and why Sola Scriptura has always led to heresy.
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@PaulDel38395510 @MrCasey62 @patrickmadrid So the Bible is wrong is what you’re saying. Cause they weren’t taught from the Bible. James is called the brother of the Lord. Why would Paul or Peter not refer to themselves as the same when mentioning it? Not to mention “your mother & brothers are here”. So we deny scripture?
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@jason_morman @MrCasey62 @patrickmadrid Literally every single Church planted by an Apostle says they were taught that he had no blood relatives. Even James, who protestants claim was Jesus's blood brother, the Church he was in charge of says that he wasn't Christs blood brother. That's some pretty good evidence.
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@BishopJaxi Read that “complete” part again. What goes complete mean? Needing nothing else. And why is scripture alone not sufficient? Are you saying Gods word is lacking? If we truly put God and Christ first why would we want to follow a man’s created theory and tradition?
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2 Timothy 3:16-17 says all Scripture is God-breathed and profitable, so the man of God may be complete and equipped for every good work.
Protestants read that and somehow get:
"Only Scripture is God-breathed, Scripture alone is profitable, and Scripture alone is sufficient."
One problem. Paul never said that.
Try that logic anywhere else:
"All grapes were created by God and are profitable, so that a man may be nourished, healthy, and strong for every good work."
Read like a Protestant, this means:
"Only grapes were created by God, and grapes alone are profitable for nourishment."
That is obviously absurd.
Why?
Because "all X is profitable" does not mean "only X is profitable."
2 Timothy 3 proves Scripture is inspired and profitable.
It does not prove sola Scriptura. That doctrine has to be smuggled into the verse, because it is not actually in the verse.
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@MrCasey62 Again. Show me the scripture that Mary was a perpetual virgin. 🤷🏻♂️ I don’t care what an early church father or reformation character said. Show me the scripture.
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@Sacramentshow There is no one in heaven yet to pray for you. Revelation 5 is a vision John had of what was to come in the end. Would be after the rapture etc. As of now no one is in heaven except Christ , God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit. If all were in heaven then why a resurrection?
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@jason_morman If asking Christians on Earth to pray for you doesnt replace Jesus, then asking Christians in Heaven to pray for you doesnt either.
Jesus is the only mediator of salvation.
That doesnt stop believers from interceding for each other
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@VinceIovin43311 @MrCasey62 (1). I can’t show you he impregnated her no more than you can show me he didn’t. So there’s that. However. Using reasoning from culture and the actual word adelphoi used for “brothers” mentioning Jesus’ brothers ἀδελφοί means literally “of the same womb, brothers”. Look it up.
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@Grim_Dutch @MrCasey62 Obviously you didn’t look it up well. The word Adelphoi ἀδελφοί is used for “brothers” when it mentions them. And it means “of the same womb, brothers”. OF THE SAME WOMB. Look it up. Do research before you try to use a word you don’t know based just on what someone told uou
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@jason_morman @MrCasey62 Show me then in scripture where it says “the sons of Mary, Jesus’s mother”.
It doesn’t exist, but it does say SON (singular) of Mary.
Then after your search fails, go look up koine Greek meaning for Adelphos and see how over 80% is used for non blood brothers.
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@Grim_Dutch @MrCasey62 So when the scripture in the Gospels says they told Jesus “your Mother and brothers are here” who were they speaking of? His mother is Mary. Who are his brothers mentioned multiple times in the Bible? It doesn’t have to tell you Mary was their mother. That common sense.
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@Grim_Dutch @MrCasey62 I didn’t use a quote from anyone. Again. Show me scripture that Mary is perpetual virgin. Not opinions or tradition. Again. Bible disproves it. Jesus had siblings. They weren’t all born of a virgin without a man impregnating Mary. Jesus was born a virgin. Not his siblings
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@jason_morman @MrCasey62 And finally, using a quote from people who did not believe Jesus was the messiah isn’t the flex you Protestants think it is.
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@DrFrankTurek The Brain is the fleshly material in your head developed as part of your anatomy for bodily function. The Mind is the soul, if you will, of that material. The center of our ability to reason, think, discern, wonder, compute, rationalize, etc
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