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Jonathan Stoop

@jonathanstoop

Thinking about all things football through scouting/recruitment. Former @KAAGent & @NKDomzale. MSc Sport Management. American.

Orange County, California Katılım Mart 2010
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Jonathan Stoop
Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop·
Eghbali presents the SD who picks players on his eyes as a cautionary tale. I’d reframe it. Brighton ran the data-first experiment at the highest level in Europe - exclusive data provider, algorithm above scouts, Tony Bloom trusting the model over the humans. For years it produced a huge edge. Now the edge is blunted. The clubs that assumed data was the permanent moat are now learning that process is. At a certain point, you’ve absorbed enough signal that the dashboards become redundant. The eyes become the output of the analytics work, not the avoidance of it. Numbers to leave numbers. Eghbali’s framework optimizes for a diminishing edge. The moat in 2026 is a human opinion - specific enough to be unreplicable, built on enough absorbed data that it just looks like instinct. The SD with just six scouts might already be there.
JnR@CFCJnR

Eghbali asked a Director at an elite club how he uses data, he said data is his eyes, no data. Likely Luis Campos at PSG, but this clown thinks he's doing wrong and should use data. Which is why Chelsea sign players like Garnacho, now El Mala, no real scouting. It's his model.

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SCOUTED@scoutedftbl·
Seeing reports that Bayern München are only prioritising 'super elite' players in the transfer market and will fill the rest of their squad with home-grown academy graduates. That should be the squad-building blueprint for every elite club with high-performing academies.
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Joel A. Adejola
Joel A. Adejola@JoelAdejola·
A scout’s 70% conviction, a model’s 0.72 probability score, and a prediction market’s $0.68 contract are not the same kind of claim. I wrote about what happens when football’s recruitment stack treats them as interchangeable. statswing.com/research/epist…
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Strategically, the best teams sign players with high-value context-independent skills and provide conditions for the development of context-dependent skills. Sign the unteachable, teach the teachable.
Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop

Khusanov's USP. Context-independent skill: speed in large spaces, instant deceleration Context-dependent skill: direction of speed, timing of deceleration, angle of body shape Elite potential = elite context-independent skills + conditions to develop context-dependent skills.

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Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop·
Khusanov's USP. Context-independent skill: speed in large spaces, instant deceleration Context-dependent skill: direction of speed, timing of deceleration, angle of body shape Elite potential = elite context-independent skills + conditions to develop context-dependent skills.
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Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop·
One of the meta-principles I've taken from this: Experts across domains often understand each other better than an expert and novice in the same one. For me: going deep into football analysis taught me about learning. Learning about learning taught me about product management. Learning compounds because the principles are the same.
Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop

I've listened to this 3 times in the past year. Each time I take something different with me, it's intensely potent with insights. This is like a user manual for living life like a work of art.

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Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop·
Scouting is a projection of a player's learning and development capacity. You cannot accurately predict a player's development without an understanding of what skills can and cannot be learned, or without knowledge of the potential environment and conditions for learning. Scouting is a forecasting analysis of how these two factors (player & context) will interact over time. Insights generated from this predictive modeling produce a projection of future outcomes. From this lens, scouting is an assessment of a player's context-(in)dependence. Analyzing: • Context-INDEPENDENT strengths & weaknesses (raw physical tools, action speed/capacity), and • Context-DEPENDENT strengths & weaknesses (socio-affective qualities/tendencies, game insight) Strategically, the best teams sign players with high-value context-independent skills and provide conditions for the development of context-dependent skills.
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kepano@kepano·
your edge is whatever you know that the models don't know
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Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop·
I've listened to this 3 times in the past year. Each time I take something different with me, it's intensely potent with insights. This is like a user manual for living life like a work of art.
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Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop·
@saundzo Dealt with patella pain for most entire career and saw tons of physios who couldn’t solve it. Then someone told me to massage the patella in a circular rotation around the edges of the kneecap. Did this daily and pain has been gone since. Similar to this. youtu.be/n3JyxXY1Wgk?si…
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Suffered a patella dislocation in my left knee a few years ago during trianing day before a game, and never did physio when it healed. Years on n can’t even do bodyweight exercises without sharp pain & it feeling stiff/locked, let alone consistently play again. Anyone had it?
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Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop·
Partly, but there are two bigger problems I think: 1. Many of the best up and coming head coaches in the next 5 years aren't head coaches yet. If you filter head coaches by performance data, the most interesting candidates won't show up. 2. Disaggregating a coach's contribution to team performance is more difficult than for individual players. You don't know what aspects of team performance should be attributed to the head coach, assistant coaches, or the players.
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Steven Marc Scott
Steven Marc Scott@StevenMarcScott·
@jonathanstoop so the limitations of data-driven approaches for scouting coaches is that there's not enough data? sounds about right
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Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop·
New research on head coach recruitment at MCO groups surfaces the limitations of data-driven approaches for scouting coaches. Relying on performance metrics biases the search towards established names. Young, talented coaches don't have head coach data because they have yet to become one. Filtering by head coach data filters them out. The better search method is human-oriented. Speaking to people who've worked with them. Listening to press conferences. Personality is a higher-order indicator than tactical acumen. Coaching succession planning is as consequential as player succession planning. MCOs have a structural advantage: multiple contexts. Single clubs hyper-specify roles because they only have one job in one context to fill. MCOs can find the best people and build roles around them - the role specs adjust to the coaching profile, not the other way around. The idealized coaching pipeline mirrors the player pipeline: > Build a talent pool > Place them in the right context > Develop > Promote
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Jonathan Stoop@jonathanstoop·
🔗 #abstract" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.10…
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Umir Irfan
Umir Irfan@umirf1·
Project is done and live. A blog-archive-portfolio that I’ll publish thoughts to ranging from quick observations to frameworks I use to full essays and analysis. The search function is detailed so people can search ideas, sort by format, coaches, or teams over hopefully years.
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jo johnson
jo johnson@josbjohnson·
a man who can sit on a porch and watch the sky change color without reaching for his phone has won a war most do not know they are fighting.
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Luukas Ojala
Luukas Ojala@LuukasOjala·
Partially inspired by several conversations with @jonathanstoop, I made an account with Claude last night. Wanted to share some first impressions. 🧵👇
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