@jneary94 @GlennDOrdway Sometimes. Sometimes you sold tickets with bobblehead nights. In fact, most teams still do.
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Jonathan Vankin
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Jonathan Vankin
@jonvankin
Writer of books, comics, screenplays, journalism and even an Off Broadway musical. Currently sportswriter for @NewsweekSports and @HeavyOnSports.
Katılım Aralık 2008
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@jonvankin @GlennDOrdway Yeah, but you used to sell tickets BY winning - not the case anymore
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Amazing the camera caught John Henry ridiculing the crowd's chant in an obvious lip read...Problem is most owners would address the fans now to protect their business..I don't expect John to do that making it all even worse unless his team dramatically turns this season around
Jared Carrabis@Jared_Carrabis
“Oh, sell the team.” He heard you. He won’t sell the team, though. The Red Sox are no longer run like a baseball team. They haven’t for a while. They are run like a business, and it’s a business that makes a lot of money regardless of how bad they are.
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@jneary94 @GlennDOrdway That is literally the business of every MLB team and always has been throughout history.
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@jonvankin @GlennDOrdway This is the problem with the Red Sox. Their business is selling tickets. Not winning games. Eventually, serving two masters is going to catch up with them...
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@kstone06 Some people simply enjoy baseball, or just being at the ballpark with their friends and family. Of course everyone wants a winner, but not everyone is a terminally online rage-machine.
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So, just to clarify, these idiots sit there and freeze on an April night for a terrible product and THEN chant ‘sell the team’ after forking over money all night like that’s gonna work….
It will never happen, but if people truly want change, JUST STOP GOING
Jerry Thornton@jerrythornton
John Henry hears the chants. He responds with “Oh, ‘Sell the team!’” And a smug little laugh, the way all despots do when the people first begin to rise up.
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@Jared_Carrabis Be careful what you wish for.
We were extremely lucky when the Henry-Werner-Lucchino group bought the team from the Yawkeys. It could have gone to Charles Dolan or Frank McCourt.
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“Oh, sell the team.”
He heard you. He won’t sell the team, though. The Red Sox are no longer run like a baseball team. They haven’t for a while. They are run like a business, and it’s a business that makes a lot of money regardless of how bad they are.
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@RedSoxSlave @_TyAnderson I'm not into relitigating deals that have already been made. FWIW neither Devers or Bregman are exactly off to scorching starts. If they were on the Red Sox right now, fans would be up in arms about them too.
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@jonvankin @_TyAnderson Competitive windows in baseball eb and flow. Great teams recognize a window of opportunity and maximize winning potential accordingly. Tell me, with Roman and Celo breaking into the bigs, did you feel salary dumping Devers and nickel and diming Bregman in FA helped or hurt?
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@EdHand89 Be careful what you wish for.
We were extremely lucky when the Henry-Werner-Lucchino group bought the team from the Yawkeys. It could have gone to Charles Dolan or Frank McCourt.
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@RedSoxSlave @_TyAnderson They are $20.4 million over the tax threshold, one of only 9 MLB teams over the limit.
Will we not be happy until they're $170 million over, like the Dodgers?
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@jonvankin @_TyAnderson It's their unwillingness to exceed tax thresholds, even during seasons where the team is expected to be competitive, that has forced the front office to move on from players like Betts and Devers and fail to sign big fish free agents to long term deals. They're astoundingly cheap
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@jonvankin @_TyAnderson The highest paid player makes $28m and he was paid to avoid arbitration. The 2nd highest was paid so they didn’t have to pay Bregman. The 3rd highest was paid so they didn’t have to pay Bogaerts. The 4th involved the trade partner eating cash. 5th is Yoshida
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@YellowJerseySox @jonvankin @_TyAnderson That’s not true entirely. Devers being gone is on Henry, a owner that actually cared does not let that trade happen
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@Savageboston The Red Sox payroll is $264.4 million, 6th highest in MLB.
What's happening so far this year is not an ownership problem.
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@TolleEnthusiast He also seems to just hate his job this year, and I've felt that way since spring training. It's just a vibe I get, but it feels to me like he's sick of doing this.
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Soon we're going to need to have a hard conversation about Cora.
Continues to underperform with at least semi talented rosters.
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@tylermilliken_ With everything that happened out didn't happen in the offseason, probably the worst thing was Trevor Story taking his opt-in.
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Alex Cora: “There is a lot of stuff that is not going right for us. We’re not playing well.”
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@BrightSideSox I felt the same way at the time, and feel that way now. It was a pointless trade. But at the time, and now, most of the fan base was positively giddy to get rid of one of the greatest pitchers of the modern era.
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Remember when Craig traded this guy away for nothing?
And don’t give me “he wouldn’t have done it here”. He was going into a season fully healthy for the first time in forever.
Rob Friedman@PitchingNinja
Chris Sale's 2Ks in the 3rd. 6Ks thru 3
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@YellowJerseySox @_TyAnderson It's not even a Breslow problem. It's been, so far, a "players fail to execute" problem. Of their 8 losses, 3 have been by 1 run, 3 by 2 runs. All were winnable games if players simply executed on the field the way major league players should.
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@jonvankin @_TyAnderson It’s a Craig Breslow problem. You’ll see John Henry hate, Alex Cora hate, player hate. Half the fanbase is stupid and looking to rage out after every loss. They don’t know where to direct their anger. Chating sell the team while they all put money in his pocket.
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@BallParkBuzz Exactly. Of their eight losses, 3 have been by 1 run, 3 by 2 runs. Those were all winnable games. The players just failed to execute, and blew them.
If the players simply performed up to their abilities, Red Sox could be 8-2, or at least 6-4.
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At some point the players just have to perform.
Payton Tolle Enthusiast@TolleEnthusiast
Sacrificed offense to have the best defense and pitching in the league btw. - 9 errors (2nd worst in MLB) 2 times through the rotation: - Crochet 3.27 ERA - Gray. 4.50 ERA - Early 2.89 ERA - Suarez 8.64 ERA - Brayan Bello 9.64 ERA #IloveCraigBreslow
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@Jared_Carrabis The Red Sox payroll this year is $264.4 million, 6th highest in MLB. What's happening so far this season is not a John Henry problem.
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The Red Sox ownership group lost their edge when Larry Lucchino was no longer in a position of power. He was the flip over the table guy amongst the decision makers. They’ve lacked that ever since.
Jake Iggy@JakeIggy
“SELL THE TEAM” chants are loud at Fenway Park
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@EdHand89 How many owners in the history of the game have "loved baseball?" I mean, have you ever seen (or read) "Eight Men Out?"
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"Our owners in Boston, they've been owners for 10 years. They come in with all these ideas about baseball, but I don't think they love baseball. I think they like baseball. It's revenue, and I know that's their right and their interest because they're owners -- and they're good owners. But they don't love the game. It's still more of a toy or a hobby for them. It's not their blood." -Semiregular reminder that Terry Francona is a remarkably insightful judge of character.
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@Jared_Carrabis His arm was fine last year, and he doesn't seem hurt. Gotta be a mental thing.
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The Roman throwing ability discourse is going to continue to get real loud.
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