JP Shurlock

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JP Shurlock

JP Shurlock

@jp_shurlock

Katılım Kasım 2023
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JP Shurlock
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock·
@Fork__Handles @HibernianSea @western_british Soriano, I. et al. (2015) Open Warfare or the Odd Skirmish? Bell Beaker Violence in the North-Eastern Iberian Peninsula Carman & Harding (1999) Ancient Warfare: Archaeological Perspectives Archeology shows real conflict and violence in prehistoric Europe
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BackfromBeyond
BackfromBeyond@Fork__Handles·
@jp_shurlock @HibernianSea @western_british Really? Are you going to provide anything else other than “they had weapons”? If a Greek sword was found in Britain, does that mean the Greeks invaded? You need more evidence. Can you provide a published paper to substantiate your claims? Shouting “weapons” isn’t enough
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Western British
Western British@western_british·
The Irish Celtic Gael came to the British Isles as the invader c350bc. The indigenous British identity has been damaged by the ICG invader, not the other way around chump. The irish aren’t native or indigenous to Western Britain or Great Britain or any other British Isle.🇬🇧
John Crotty@itsjohncrotty

“A pragmatic solution’? ‘A proud part” Britain’s partition of the island of Ireland was a disgrace to democracy, tearing apart a coherent ancient island identity to suit a minority who threatened violence. This was followed up with state led sectarian mistreatment of the Catholic minority it created It is nothing less than a shameful legacy of British imperialism that will only be resolved by a re-united Ireland Jennifer here blocked me the second her disgusting endorsement of violent colonial aggression was called out - says it all really. She would have cheered on Nazi annexation as well I suppose

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BackfromBeyond
BackfromBeyond@Fork__Handles·
@jp_shurlock @HibernianSea @western_british That’s your extrapolation, you need a hell of a lot more evidence than just they had swords therefore it must’ve been by force. Again, the historical and archeological consensus doesn’t agree with you
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BackfromBeyond
BackfromBeyond@Fork__Handles·
@jp_shurlock @HibernianSea @western_british Again, the disagreement is of how the beakers overtook the indigenous pop. Your contention is that there was armed invasion (genocide)? I’m saying there’s little to no evidence to substantiate that as the cause.
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JP Shurlock
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock·
@Fork__Handles @HibernianSea @western_british History of humanity shows violence is used when taking land. It took probably 100 years or so And no, I’m not saying it was genocide but there was a 90% genetic replacement of the natives.
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock

@Fork__Handles @HibernianSea @western_british Some individuals were clearly armed and possibly trained fighters. Weapons in graves suggest prestige and identity tied to combat. Metallurgy would have led to more advanced weapons, and yes, they may have brought diseases with them which the locals had no immunity to.

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JP Shurlock
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock·
@adangelor @PaulinusOfTrier Yeah, then you fucked up by invading and putting any relationship back to zero. I’m going to leave it here. Good chatting to you.
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Andrés D'Angelo 🇦🇷⭐⭐⭐
Andrés D'Angelo 🇦🇷⭐⭐⭐@adangelor·
@jp_shurlock @PaulinusOfTrier We did it before 1982. We sent them oil and supplies, they came here and have health, education for their children, and vacations. By Argentine law the can even claim a national ID, because they were born in Argentine territory. But that won't stop our claim to sovereignty
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Henry von Blumenthal
Henry von Blumenthal@PaulinusOfTrier·
During the Falklands War, I was amazed to meet people who in all seriousness thought that because I am Catholic and because Argentina is a Catholic country, I must necessarily support the Argentinian cause. Eventually I pointed out that the Gunpowder Plot was unmasked by a loyal Catholic.
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JP Shurlock
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock·
@adangelor @PaulinusOfTrier Yes, we're even. What's next? Just leave the people alone to live. Maybe give all Falklanders citizenship, open up so Argentina becomes their best friend, and woo them to become part of Argentina in a referendum. Turn that no into a yes.
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JP Shurlock
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock·
@adangelor @PaulinusOfTrier In the Treaty of Utrecht, the Falkland Islands were not mentioned, as they were not settled or actively controlled by Spain at the time.
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JP Shurlock
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock·
@adangelor @PaulinusOfTrier Spain withdrew. You only can inherit administrative areas. The Falklands were not administered at the time of independence so there was nothing to inherit. I don’t accept your assertion of the British base in 1765.
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JP Shurlock
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock·
@Fork__Handles @HibernianSea @western_british Some individuals were clearly armed and possibly trained fighters. Weapons in graves suggest prestige and identity tied to combat. Metallurgy would have led to more advanced weapons, and yes, they may have brought diseases with them which the locals had no immunity to.
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BackfromBeyond
BackfromBeyond@Fork__Handles·
@jp_shurlock @HibernianSea @western_british There so much unknown about the beakers and the Neolithic replacement. The predominant theory is disease, not invasion. So it’s amazing you know exactly what happened when it’s still a subject of debate
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BackfromBeyond@Fork__Handles·
@jp_shurlock @HibernianSea @western_british Youre conflating linguistic and cultural traits with genetic identity. The existence of Celtic languages doesn’t necessarily mean a genetic link but also cultural adoption. There is no single Celtic gene. So there wasn’t ’surely’ an invasion as you’re assuming
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JP Shurlock
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock·
@HibernianSea @western_british The Beaker culture included warriors and like other human migrations, their expansion into occupied lands likely involved some level of violence and displacement. Let’s not pretend the invaders were pacifists
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Irish Sea Border@HibernianSea·
@jp_shurlock @western_british There were no large armies but small groups of travellers in tiny boats. Neolithic population at its peak was c.100k spread across the island. Neolithic people may already have been in decline by Bronze Age as there was climate-induced agricultural failure and evidence of plague.
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JP Shurlock
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock·
@HibernianSea @western_british Definitely, it was continued migration , but the initial migration onto other people’s land surely must be seen as an invasion. it wasnt a systematic, organised genocide, but the male lines of the genome largely disappeared while some traces remained with the female line
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JP Shurlock
JP Shurlock@jp_shurlock·
@HibernianSea @western_british You said there wasnt an invasion. There must have been one if the Irish genomes arrived 4000 years ago. The land wasn’t empty.
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Andrés D'Angelo 🇦🇷⭐⭐⭐
Andrés D'Angelo 🇦🇷⭐⭐⭐@adangelor·
@jp_shurlock @PaulinusOfTrier Spain did protest Britain’s early occupation. Britain’s SECRET settlement in 1765 was considered a violation of existing treaties (including Utrecht and subsequent agreements), and Spain formally objected, leading to the 1770 crisis and Britain’s withdrawal in 1774.
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@Fork__Handles @HibernianSea @western_british @gaelpict555 @neilcorcoran3 @adangelor @PaulinusOfTrier @elonmusk