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@TaintedSaint2 @jhwurleriii @karlykingsley Also, technically speaking there is NO WAY for a 10 yr old to get pregnant UNLESS she is raped. A 10 yr old cannot consent. So...not trying to in ANY way normalize that situtation.

@katz_2022 @jhwurleriii @karlykingsley 10 year old child is raped and ends up pregnant. She still plays with dolls. She has a 5x greater chance of death during pregnancy and childbirth and a 10x greater chance of suicide. Carrying the pregnancy announces she was raped to her peers. Should she be required to continue?

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@TaintedSaint2 @jhwurleriii @karlykingsley I don't think so, nope. Not a 'dolls' issue, it's physically SUPER dangerous for her given her age. Generally, women/girls shouldn't be made to carry very dangerous pregnancies to term. In life threatening circumstances, mom should be priority, IMO. Again, it's nuanced.

@TaintedSaint2 @jhwurleriii @karlykingsley Hypo- Vindictive abuser targets ex who remarried and (after trying for years is thrilled to be 38wks pregnant with her 'miracle' baby). He attacks her, kicking her intentionally in the abdomen, causing a stillbirth. Is that a simple assault on her? OR something more. Why?

@katz_2022 @jhwurleriii @karlykingsley Why shouldn't it be up to the woman? In what instance do you think it is justifiable to force a woman to risk death or permanent disability to carry an unwanted pregnancy?

@TaintedSaint2 @jhwurleriii @karlykingsley Good question. I think if a baby is viable it's a different question than if it's not. I think there is a reason that countries all over the world put gestational age limitations on abortion. At some point a fetus can feel pain. And have brain activity that seems 'alive.'

@TaintedSaint2 @jhwurleriii @karlykingsley It's a very complicated issue. The problem I see is folks who think either 'it should always be completely up to the woman' or 'all abortion should be prohibited.' It's just a more nuanced question than that. At least for most folk. Approaching it with compassion seems right.

@jhwurleriii @katz_2022 @karlykingsley Your cousins wife was raped my friend. A CHILD cannot consent to sex or marriage at age 12. Yet your take on forced marriage, rape and childbirth is that "it's not ideal"? How to tell us you're morally bankrupt without saying so. I'm done.

@KaylaDavis2000 Why do you assume it was their incompetence? It could have been. OR it could be on the conference organizers. So...why jump to either conclusion?

This is humiliating and infuriating! Our Treasury Secretary and his team forgot basic conference badges at a critical summit in Beijing. Stopped by security like amateurs over something so simple! This incompetence is embarrassing America.

@TaintedSaint2 @jhwurleriii @karlykingsley The problem is that it at some point the fetus becomes a baby. Most folks, for instance, would consider a 38week fetus more baby than a blob of cells. Meaning it has some right to life. If a villain shoots a pregnant mom in the stomach, he can be charged with murder for the baby.

@jhwurleriii @katz_2022 @karlykingsley This doesn't apply to the overwhelming majority of abortions and is irrelevant though - the fetus isn't "whole". None of which matters because a woman has the absolute right to determine the use of her internal organs and her own healthcare.

@jhwurleriii @TaintedSaint2 @karlykingsley No. Unfortunately you CAN get pregnant when you are physically too young to have a normal/safe delivery or even carry to term. There is no question about that. And there's also the mental capacity issue. A 10 year old CAN sign a contract, but that's not something considered ok.

@TaintedSaint2 @katz_2022 @karlykingsley So the level of physical development matters when you’re taking their life, but not when they get pregnant⁉️ Her body says she’s old enough. Many cultures say she’s old enough. OUR culture used to. By any reasonable definition, she’s a mother. Another appeal to emotion.

@jhwurleriii @TaintedSaint2 @karlykingsley Sometimes it does. Sometimes you need to pick one or the other. The mother is always going to win in a 'one or the other' analysis because she can speak and is an adult and doesn't need the baby to survive. It's be great if everyone could be saved, but that is not reality.

@TaintedSaint2 @katz_2022 @karlykingsley As of 2024, women 40+ have the highest mortality rate, followed by 25-39, then 25 and younger. It’s not an either-or. It’s both-and. You pit the child against the mother. I want the best outcome for both. Why must that involve death?

@TaintedSaint2 @jhwurleriii @karlykingsley Definitely being a young teen mom can/should be considered life threatening. Which, hopefully, would be a carve out exception. Some girls are simply too small at 12/13/14 to safely carry a baby to term.

@jhwurleriii @katz_2022 @karlykingsley You're missing the point still. The maternal mortality rate in the US is the highest of any developing nation. A CHILD under 15 has a 5x greater risk of death with pregnancy. She's already at a 10x greater risk of suicide. Why don't you care about that "innocent child"?

@RossKneeDeep Why? Serious question. Who would you say are the 5 greatest presidents, and why? Never really thought about it, I guess. But it's an interesting conversation.

I've gotta say this. Because it's what I think. I think if Obama were white, he would probably be considered as one of the greatest presidents ever.

@jhwurleriii @TaintedSaint2 @karlykingsley Well...not take a position. But there are various ways to think about when one becomes an individual/person. Conception. Birth. Viability (outside mom) WITH intervention. Viability without intervention. There's not really one standard. People have different views. And laws.

@TaintedSaint2 @katz_2022 @karlykingsley I’m just investigating what it means to be independently alive, since you seem to believe some forms of dependence somehow changes whether killing them is murder. I’m trying to understand where you draw the line, and why.

@TaintedSaint2 @jhwurleriii @karlykingsley Depends. Some state laws would consider a fetus at a certain gestational age to be a 'person.' Similarly some religions consider a fetus a person at the point of conception. For some, a fetus is not a person until birth. So, it's a complicated question. And usually a legal one.

@jhwurleriii @katz_2022 @karlykingsley An unborn fetus is not independently alive - it relies entirely on the internal functions of another's body. It may have a defect allowing it to survive fine inside the womb that will kill it upon birth. They are not the same.

@surphs__upp @karlykingsley Don't think I did. The statement itself was flawed. The US in particular has VERY strict antidiscrimination protections in place.

@katz_2022 @karlykingsley Great job missing the point entirely

@TaintedSaint2 @karlykingsley Of course they are. Rights are something guaranteed by law. Laws vary. The rights one has in country x are different than country y. Same with States in the US.

@katz_2022 @karlykingsley it shouldn't. Rights are not debatable based on location.

@ConnieC224 @TheRealJChubby IDK. Not saying her specifically, just that age is no reason to NOT be in Congress. BUT, whatever your age, if you stop making sense, or representing your district, you need to step aside for someone else.

@katz_2022 @TheRealJChubby That's true... To a point though, who is really trying to work at 80 years old... Willingly, she done her duty, she should be at least training a successor or something.

God damn, why are these people so against retiring?

@JeffAnderson_ You're asking completely the wrong question if you are asking (caring) if YALE is discriminating. The question is of those WHO APPLY, what is the likelihood of selection based on race.

Yale School of Medicine Has a total of 553 students across All four classes. Total Black students: 44. That’s ~10 per class. Total Asian students: 157. That’s ~40 per class. There are nearly as many Asian students PER CLASS as there are Black students in the entire school. Black: 14% of America. Only 7% of Yale Med Asian: 7% of America. 28% of Yale Med. Who exactly is getting discriminated against here ? aamc.org/media/6131/dow…

@saniyafatma1278 So...click bait, obviously. No rational person would ask this or even think it.