Kelly Sommers

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@sasuke___420 Sorry forum basically same thing 😂

@kellabyte this seems to be not a mailing list

is this really a screenshot of a mailing list?

@sasuke___420 Yes it is go check it out

It’s gonna be a great night. It’s about to get weird.

@vladimir_vg @ThomasRPapp Being a nice person doesn’t hinder collaboration.

@kellabyte @ThomasRPapp CoC like this one should be abolished. They hinder the progress and ruin collaboration.

Maybe the lead of Zig should follow his own code of conduct

Classy 😂

@Aut4rk Sweet! That means I can write whatever I want on MY Twitter then too!

@kellabyte Maybe he can write whatever the fuck he wants on his personal blog you stupid cunt.

@jamwt @theo Yeah it’s super uncomfortable to see him still talking about Jarred on the mailing list.

@theo It’s reprehensible and condescending. Call me crazy, but if I lose my biggest customer, I’m gonna consider it my fault.

Read this on stream earlier. Big mistake. I've never been so pissed off on camera. I cannot fathom how anyone could publish an article like this. Andrew is a petty, evil man, and you should not trust any software he writes.

The personal attacks on Jarred have not stopped by the way. They have continued on the Zig mailing list.

@CorvusCrypto Yeah I’ve heard ppl comment about this pattern. I am not gonna speak of it since I’m not in that community all I’ve seen is this post. I am also sympathetic that a large entity donating funds and putting direction pressure on a smaller OSS project can be a challenging collab

@kellabyte If you're a leader you need to be better about handling emotion. It really drags down my confidence in Andrew being the person toead zig to 1.0. I get your point about empathy but it's a pattern with Andrew (this, GitHub, etc.) He becomes vitriolic at the slightest challenge.

This Bun vs Zig thing is getting ugly fast. We now have multi page personal attack blog posts.

@TheCannaUnknttr “Handle” really brings up some BBS nostalgia 😂

@kellabyte I politely disagree. I don't think it was "positive" but I don't see it as unacceptable. He did acknowledge different viewpoints and experiences. Was it constructive? potentially, if Jarred isn't thin skinned. Was it personal? I don't think so. I dig your handle btw

@TheCannaUnknttr Haha thanks for the compliment! There’s a lot of personal attacks. Calling someone a stinky manager. Saying he should earn via donations instead. Making a whole post about a single individual. Is there merit that the code or collab was rough? Maybe!

@ThomasRPapp I’m often reminded in life that two things can be true.

@kellabyte No, it's social science and not understanding power dynamics or differences in vantage/perspective is the reason your expectations are a naive form of equality instead of equity.

@ibuildthecloud They do have valid points and two things can be true.

Nah. Look past the writing styles. Buns response is polished, Zig is not. But they both have valid points. Zig is really not a language for the YC mindset, it just is what it is. It's not a good fit. Rust is a much better choice for Bun. It's the right ecosystem for them. Andrew could have worded it better, but I think it's just how he communicates. More of a Linus style person.

Often enough details don’t matter How Zig vs Bun story will read to uneducated is Bun credited Zig for their start but needed something with more guarantees (I can relate in the DB world) cuz their team was unable to tame stability Zig responds personal attack. Dark day for Zig

@ThomasRPapp I expect them to follow the same conduct they have documented for other community members to follow. It’s not rocket science.

@kellabyte Kelly, do you expect the same accountability of closed sourcing as you do for open sourcing (as an example)? Or are you just being obtuse?

@StrangeWill @ThomasRPapp Yeah it’s not okay. That was one of the most unhinged posts I’ve seen in my career.

@kellabyte @ThomasRPapp I mean it's frustrating but asymmetrical enforcement of CoCs is way too common. Doesn't make it ok, but at this point I usually expect it.

@ThomasRPapp Oh I see. So they wrote the CoC to hold others accountable not themselves. Got it.

@kellabyte Money doesn't care about CoC, and neither should Andrew.

@minakimes @Pro__Ant Mina is a goat. She’s not afraid to use her platform to let others shine. Even though my industry is very different, tech can be emotional too like sports fandom and I have grown watching how she handles it all.

@Pro__Ant Thank you for making us smarter!!

As a person who grew up watching ESPN and had their sports fandom significantly shaped by ESPN, to turn on an ESPN channel and see myself talking ball with one of the best is one of the coolest things ever. Tremendously grateful to @minakimes for having me on her show