@pelositracker More like Brucewayne Mullin... not the senator we deserve
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Michael Hall
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Michael Hall
@kmichaelhall
Founder at https://t.co/gb1tZKi7Pa COO @helium_dev
Gig Harbor, WA Katılım Mayıs 2011
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Breaking: Senator Markwayne Mullin said he will divest out of stocks if confirmed as DHS Secretary
He's one of the most active stock traders in congress
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@kmichaelhall @ShopifyDevs That's because @ShopifyDevs approval is purely technical, App Bridge setup, API scopes, embedded app requirements, etc. Nobody's actually clicking through the app to see if the buttons do anything. You can literally ship a UI full of dead components and sail through review.
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Our CSM played around with the copycat app a bit and said:
"With all the buttons they copied from our UI which are straight up non-functional, I'm astounded this app made it through Shopify approval"
This is the real question @ShopifyDevs!
Michael Hall@kmichaelhall
If cheap AI copycats continue to be approved in the Shopify App Store, merchants will no longer be able to trust the App Store. Helium has been building Shopify apps for 12 years, but Shopify will approve new apps that are carbon copies of our apps, and what recourse do we have?
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@rohanrajpal98 obviously. does that mean they should be allowed to copy everything we do?
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@kmichaelhall But wouldn’t app reviews tell which product is better anyway? Making a good Shopify app is still hard. Onboarding, functionality, success there’s so much to PLG
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If cheap AI copycats continue to be approved in the Shopify App Store, merchants will no longer be able to trust the App Store.
Helium has been building Shopify apps for 12 years, but Shopify will approve new apps that are carbon copies of our apps, and what recourse do we have?
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i just used AI to identify a $100+ million opportunity for Seattle.
currently, to get across the water, you have to drive all the way around it, as cars don't float
this is extremely inefficient. but if you look closely, bainbridge island and seattle aren't actually all that far apart. and if we were to construct some sort of boat that carried cars, it could make the trip much quicker
together with claude code, i planned out this potential route for the boat
does anyone have any contacts in the local government?
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@avia_chen Sorry to hear... but it's good to be someone worth copying! 😤
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@samdavidoff Lol, replicating functionality is not the same as ripping off designs, copy... even reverse engineering code where possible.
Thanks for chiming in 🫠
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@kmichaelhall Yeah! You should also tell apple to stop letting fitness tracker apps into the app store, all these copycats bro. I invented fitness, the injustice!!!
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Helium's ARPU is under $23. We've had several customers tell us we don't charge enough, and maybe that's true. We're just a small, bootstrapped company trying to make reliable and useful Shopify Apps. 😅
Alex Brecher@abrecher
@kmichaelhall Respect to the Shopify developers who built the ecosystem over the last decade. But merchants are sick of paying big fees and rev shares for apps that are easier than ever to build. If it can be copied that easily, maybe the moat was never that real.
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@john_mccain__ @liam_at_shopify Very unfortunate, and demoralizing. But hey- if you built something worth copying you're on the right track. Keep going!
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@kmichaelhall @liam_at_shopify Someone copied my app and Shopify just doesn’t care at all… I’ve sent many email and request with the chat. The person has even put the same app name as mine
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Is this enough grounds to report a partner violation @liam_at_shopify?
Michael Hall@kmichaelhall
If cheap AI copycats continue to be approved in the Shopify App Store, merchants will no longer be able to trust the App Store. Helium has been building Shopify apps for 12 years, but Shopify will approve new apps that are carbon copies of our apps, and what recourse do we have?
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@alok__puri @Chillestdotcom I agree this is the right approach.
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This is just the beginning... And honestly, Shopify can never do anything about it. There's another thing we've noticed, Shopify keeps the app rankings significantly lower for new partners compared to apps built by Shopify Plus partners. Or Apps that have built for Shopify badge... Review time is also shorter for them, and your privileges keep increasing as your partner tier grows.. So maybe in the future, Shopify will do this more strictly to prevent vibe coders from taking over the app store.
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@Chillestdotcom @liam_at_shopify Unfortunately... I agree with you. But still feel like it's worth talking about on a public forum.
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@kmichaelhall @liam_at_shopify Welcome to the future. This is not an issue Shopify is responsible to solve - they can’t hold the world back from the inevitable. You’re just feeling early effects.
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@kmichaelhall Hi Michael - thanks for flagging this, please do use the report a partner violation form to send all details to our governance team.
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@faridmovsumov Sorry to hear that. Here's hoping Shopify will do something about bad actors like Code Beans!
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@BenignRadicals We are innovating, which is why I spent 2 minutes venting on social media rather than spent hours taking legal action.
But they're pirates, not sharks. There's a difference. And Shopify would do well to kick the pirates out of their ecosystem.
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@kmichaelhall Innovate and improve. You’ve had longer to think it through so rather than sit back and collect gains in an old product, make new products.
Stop complaining that there are sharks in the sea.
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@therealobsty Absolutely not... but it might appear to. And that creates confusion.
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@kmichaelhall Do those cheap ai copycats do the exact same thing as yours ?
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@abrecher Our ARPU is about $26, so we're far from the Klaviyo / Yotpos of the world 😅
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@kmichaelhall Respect to the Shopify developers who built the ecosystem over the last decade. But merchants are sick of paying big fees and rev shares for apps that are easier than ever to build. If it can be copied that easily, maybe the moat was never that real.
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@mex_nokws You're right - and there is a clear difference. But that doesn't mean that stealing our designs doesn't do any harm to our business
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@kmichaelhall The differentiation is supposed to be your level of execution and your existing distribution channel. Trust me when I say that’s a lot more difficult to replicate 😄
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@kmichaelhall @matthewsmith Has anyone had any success with reporting these types of blatant ripoffs to Shopify?
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