@Tarafox113m@lowercaselevity@johnthenoticer We think that pushing trans ideology in society can be harmful especially to children. So it's more complicated than "live and let live"
@krice13@lowercaselevity@johnthenoticer Is it not immoral to be bigoted towards minority groups? The left thinks live and let live. E.g Trans. Trans people have existed since the beginning of time, sometimes treated as Gods or spiritual entities. Denying their existence, isn't going to stop their existence
Why the right keeps losing:
The right understands the left and its moral worldview, so it’s tolerant of the left’s demands.
The left doesn’t understand the right and its moral worldview, so it’s completely intolerant of the right’s demands.
And so the right just keeps giving ground, inch by inch.
I’ve never met anyone far-right who wasn’t EXTREMELY stupid. Grandiose and well-read, that exists, but even press lightly against the surface and you get sweeping category error, poor comprehension, and poor source analysis.
Yup, that's the key. And I think that stems from thinking that morality is extremely simple and straightforward. "oh of course you let anyone into the country, because they're minorities and minorities are oppressed and you're an asshole if you don't". In reality, morality is incredibly nuanced and moral decisions are rarely straightforward. thoughts?
@johnthenoticer i think it's more about how they understand their own worldview.
the left is convinced it's absolutely morally good and true.
thus anyone that opposes them must logically be absolutely morally evil and false.
when fighting true evil any means are justified.
it's narcissism.
The right is occasionally ok with "being the asshole". Being "nice" no matter what to all groups, minorities, genders, etc isn't something they prioritize as much.
When a leftist gets angry at a right-winger, it's because they think that person is being immoral (e.g. intolerant, bigoted, etc usually to minority groups). When a right-winger gets angry, it's more because they think the leftist is being stupid/doesn't see the whole picture. They understand that the leftist THINKS they're being more moral.
@IamCheeki7@johnthenoticer Ya they really don't care because they think the right is a just a bunch of psychopaths with no morals. I think the core issue is that the left thinks that ethics are like super simple.
@johnthenoticer The left doesn't care about our worldview they want us dead, this isn't just some simple disagreement anymore they are actively trying to kill us and anyone who can't see that is blinded by their own ignorance
“There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper.” Paglia talks about how women don’t have to prove herself in order feel sense of worth due to our ability to grow life, while many men are driven by an intensity of alienation from nature and a need to assert form against it. She argues how in this way, artistic and scientific pursuits are a form of fetishism, perverted male intelligence, compensatory obsession that leads to extremes. She contrasts this with women, who, as life-bearing, remain more continuous with nature and therefore not compelled toward obsessive overproduction. But what if there was a distinctly female form of creative urgency, not a stemming from compensation, but direct transmission? If women are more receptive by nature, wouldn’t that receptivity allow for a different kind of creation: less driven by anxiety, and more by a sense of attunement, insight, or even duty to the collective to express what is perceived?
Check out moral foundations theory. Conservatives broadly understand evolved moral foundations. The left broadly doesn't, and in fact that seems to be the defining feature of the left.
The left can't understand the right because it cannot achieve a full moral understanding. Right Wing politics will therefore always be incomprehensible to them.
@krice13@JunusAnna I am sure there is truth to that, but woman still use sex as a weapon
It's no surprise men like sex, it's not surprise that when you're in a relationship with someone, you have sex
These woman will say they have a right to sex, when it comes to abortion, but cry if men want sex
@aUSUualsuspect@x26457474@johnthenoticer This isnt what research has shown. Leftists are better at mapping right wingers theory of mind, they just reject it wholesale. The right on the other hand cannot grasp secular thinking because its alien to their faith based reasoning.
When talking about either party, it's better to avoid mixing the elites with the non-elites because they are very different and it confuses everything .
"The left understands the right and wants it destroyed."
Here you're talking about the left elites. Whereas IMO, the left non-elites do not understand the right's worldview for one second. They basically think the right is a bunch of psychopaths with almost zero morals.
@johnthenoticer The left understands the right and wants it destroyed.
The right doesn't understand the left. The right thinks their motives are charitable & if they just reason with them long enough they'll see the error of their ways. This isn't the only reason the right loses but it's huge.
@krice13@joeroganhq Truth. If white people were putting women in burkas and forcing sharia law onto women these same leftists would lose their mind.
Even white people suggesting “abortion is bad” makes them lose their mind. The double standards are insane!
Bill Maher: "Anybody who thinks they're a social justice activist, which these people do [Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur], and your number one issue isn't gender apartheid in the Muslim world, you're a joke."
Dostoevsky nails that common contradiction we all experience - having these huge feelings of love for humanity while getting annoyed by the everyday habits of people around us. It's the reason his stories still resonate today, helping us make sense of our own mixed up reactions in a busy world full of constant interactions.
@SweetMoonTune@latinamilenial@jbvconnor Right so if we go with the premise that gender isn’t sex, then why get surgeries or take drugs? If the two aren’t connected?
@krice13@latinamilenial@jbvconnor Gender isn't sex as gender identity refers to your internal sense of self and lived experiences, while gender expression is how you express it and present yourself.
There can be incongruences that are affected by your sex characteristics, but that's not them being the same thing
Being trans sucks.
Transitioning isn't ideal and it will never remove gender dysphoria completely. No meds will give me my childhood back or fix how horrible society is.
But I'm glad I did it.
I wish I didn't have to struggle, but I'm finally able to live as my authentic self.