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Aaron Levie

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ceo @box - your business lives in content. unleash it with AI

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Thoughtful proposal for a standards body for AI. This is distinct from a regulatory agency, and would certainly allow for much faster improvement of standards and collaboration with the industry. What you definitely don’t want is for AI progress to start to move at the speed of that the government classically operates at. If that happens then we can essentially guarantee progress begins to stall, and worse, America likely just loses the AI race. This framework threads the needle mostly. The only challenge is still that even those in industry don’t agree on the same safety risks in AI. But if you can get alignment there, this looks better than most other proposals.
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A few thoughts on what we will see in AI structurally for the foreseeable future: * Frontier intelligence continues unabated and pushes the industry forward continuously. The top labs will continue to buy the best and the most data, build the most compute, be at the forefront of improved training breakthroughs, and so on. A few different approaches stratify the market on pricing and capability, but overall competitive pressure brings down pricing on a per task basis. That said, we just ask more from the models over time - as one thing gets cheaper, we just use more - so frontier spend and use remains robust. * Open weights rapidly absorbs frontier breakthroughs (and drives other breakthrough directions given the constraints), offering both lower cost intelligence and the ability to be post trained for specific workflows and domains. This creates a healthy counter balance to the frontier as you can run models “at cost” on a hyperscaler at any time, and tune models just for your tasks. * The Applied AI layer has a huge opportunity to combine frontier intelligence with open or cheap closed models to orchestrate workflows in any given domain. Due to evals, deep domain context, being trusted with enterprise data and workflows, this layer can maximize performance and cost combination. The applied AI layer will also often have their own RLed models especially for high volume, predictable tasks in their systems. * Individual enterprises will generally focus on their enterprise context, making sure they can get any AI system the right data and information to work with, in a continuously improving way. Some will go off and train their own models for specific areas of work (large banks, pharma, etc.) where they can get real alpha from doing so given the many tradeoffs, but most will spend energy on making sure they can get all of the gains from AI breakthroughs on their data and workflows. Net net: even though some of this gets framed as zero sum, there’s just a ton of opportunity for all layers of the stack and approaches.
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Here’s a great post on driving down costs, while maintaining high performance, with frontier intelligence as a manager and lower cost models for the workhorse tasks. This will be the template for what model routing looks like in the future. “We started this experiment expecting to measure how much Fable’s 2x premium would increase cost. We were surprised to find that Fable’s effective delegation actually decreased cost overall. It specified constraints and outcomes instead of spelling out the implementation, gave feedback instead of making fixes itself, and in most cases never touched the code at all. These are the habits of a good manager.” The industry is increasingly figuring out what it looks like to mix models together to be able to get targeted performance levels and optimal cost structures. Of course, the only way to get this is to have a deep understanding of the business problem you’re trying to solve and how to effectively route work to different models. If you’re in the applied layer - whether it’s customer support, legal, finance, or coding - this is how your harness will become a core area of differentiation.
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Assemble@assembleagents·
Assemble builds agents that help IT teams maintain enterprise systems like ERPs, CRMs, and HRIS platforms. Map the dependencies, implement configurations, and audit the agent all on one platform. Excited to launch today, learn more at assemble.ai/today.
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Aaron Levie@levie·
The biggest challenge right now with the topic of every enterprise having their own model is that your most valuable information and insights are not only always changing, but they’re often your most sensitive information. Your most sensitive information can’t be packed into a model usually because it contains data that not everyone gets to have access to, and you can’t keep your security layer inside the model or an agent. I think there are going to be 100X more use cases for custom trained models, especially inside of domain-focused products, but training a model per enterprise is going to be a lot harder than it looks.
Jesse Zhang@thejessezhang

I actually feel strongly that the "learning" companies will want to do with their data will mostly not be to train models. Let's say you have a bunch of valuable data about your customers or employees. Your best bet to make that IP useful is to turn it into skills or artifacts that models can use in-context. If you go through the effort to train it into the model: 1. that is hard to get right and takes a lot of time + effort 2. you will have to do it all over again when the next base model comes out 3. most importantly, it is irreversible... when things change, you cannot untrain what you did

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The best way you’re going to continue to get large scale agentic adoption is by continuing to bring down the cost of intelligence. More use-cases open up for AI every time you can have lower cost tokens (for the same or better level of capability). Almost all information work in the future will involve an agent somewhere in the workflow creating, processing, reviewing, or classifying data in some way. This will happen sooner *or* later depending on the cost of tokens of frontier models. Whether this happens from closed or open models is somewhat incidental, but the key is just that it happens. It’s great to see so much innovation and different approaches in AI right now as there are so many more use cases to power.
Gavin Baker@GavinSBaker

The mega bull case for AI infrastructure would be *if* market share shifted away from certain frontier labs with 90%+ inference margins toward cheaper models, whether open-source or closed. It would increase the ROI on AI spend for end customers by increasing intelligence per dollar, which would drive incremental token demand. Margin dollars would effectively get redistributed from the frontier labs to AI infrastructure providers. The infra winners would be those with the lowest per token cost and the winners at the model layer would be those with the highest token efficiency. There are many reasons Jensen is so focused on open source, but this is likely the most important one as I think he is probably less worried about a monopsony these days. Lower margin % at the model layer = more margin $ at the infra layer all else equal. With SpaceX and Meta being vertically integrated and possessing the #3 and #4 models respectively it is more possible than ever. Note that Grok 4.5 is ahead of Fable for some useful tasks at a much lower cost, so ranking them #3 is conservative. This is not happening yet. Cheap, mostly open source tokens are likely the majority of volume today but the majority of economic value is still accruing to the most intelligent models. Might change though. We will see.

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Aaron Levie@levie·
One of the key architectural questions of the 21st century in business will be how you maximize your corporate IP in the form of decisions, insights, workflow patterns, and best practices in a world where so much intelligence is packed into AI models. One might think these questions could just get bitter lessoned out of existence, but in reality they become even more germane as intelligence becomes more powerful. In a world where any firm also has access to frontier intelligence, understanding how you leverage it uniquely becomes a critical question. That’s why so much value is left to be created between the enterprise and the underlying AI itself. Having evals for your workflows, ensuring that you can route models from different tiers of intelligence, capturing traces in a way that improve your own workflows, and making sure the value of your information compounds as AI gets better all become critical considerations. Which is also why there’s so much opportunity right now in the applied AI layer. The companies that help figure this out for other enterprises will be in the best position to win the next enterprise workloads.
Satya Nadella@satyanadella

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The job that AI was supposed to replace is experiencing the opposite of the expected outcome. Software job postings are outpacing other fields. Why is that? If you lower the cost of production of something that has lots of use cases, people want more things produced. We’ve seen this play out in the industrial world constantly, and now we’re finally seeing it in knowledge work. Because software now is much lower to cost per unit, people want way more of it. So we start to use software for all new things and people and companies light up more software projects than ever before. But because the job itself is not fully automated (and likely won’t be for as far out as we can see), you still need people that understand these systems to maintain the code, decide what to build, run it over the long run, update it, and more. That all requires people to do work. The same thing is going to happen in many other fields as well as we bring down the cost of production of previously extremely scarce areas of work. Agents will cause more abundance than replacement.
Marc Andreessen 🇺🇸@pmarca

Technology increases productivity → cost of output falls → demand for output rises → more total output gets built → more jobs (and at higher wages).

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This is a great post if youre thinking about applied AI in the enterprise. The headline of this post is about what companies have huge upside from AI, but the deepest nuggets are about what AI transformation looks like in an organization. It’s fundamentally about changing the underlying workflow or business process. As we move from chat tools to agents, those agents actually have to be deployed against workflows, which usually span multiple functions in an org. This is a different way of deploying AI than solely rolling it out to end users. It takes much more work upfront, but the results are the things that actually drive significant ROI. “Software asks the employee to adopt a tool, but infrastructure changes the operating layer underneath the employee. The employee should still know what happened, and the process owner should still be able to pause the workflow, change a rule, approve an exception, or pull a person back in when needed. But the value should not depend on someone remembering to use the AI every day.” The winners of this will be the platforms that can be deployed for specific workflows and business processes with a deep domain expertise. The playbook will often heavily require FDE support, change management, getting data well organized, be able to have comprehensive evals for the workflows, and much more to get right.
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The reason I have an unhealthy obsession with AI right now is because I've spent my entire professional life on essentially one problem: how do you increase the value of content in the enterprise. How do you secure it, how do you collaborate on it, how do you govern it, and how to integrate it across all your applications. But there's been one glaring issue that we've dealt with since the founding of Box. We could never really process information at scale in any real automated way. There have been many attempts at this problem (often in the search space), but nothing that really fundamentally transformed what you can do with enterprise knowledge. For years the primary kind of data that we could query, analyze, and process with computers was structured data. This meant anything you could shove into a database you could understand with computers - your CRM, ERP, product analytics, HR, and other data. But all of the unstructured data that powers our daily knowledge work - marketing assets, contracts, financial documents, medical research, engineering documentation - was only valuable when a human was operating on it. There was just simply no real way to apply automation at scale to any of this data, which meant all knowledge work was largely rate limited by our ability to process information ourselves, often manually. AI models have obviously dramatically changed this reality. And the past couple weeks perfectly highlight this incredible progress. GPT-5.6, Fable 5, Grok 4.5, Muse Spark 1.1, and a leading array of open weights models are all showing incredible advancements on working with unstructured data. The inherent broad intelligence, reasoning, math, and coding skills in these models, combined with deep domain expertise trained into them across finance, legal, healthcare, life sciences, and other critical fields, means that we're able to completely change what we can do with this unstructured data at scale. What this unlocks is the ability to ask insanely complex questions of your data that were never before possible, and let agents just run on for minutes or hours across these data sets to accelerate knowledge work. And it's not just about automating the work that we already do. While this is highly valuable, it wouldn't be particularly transformative. What's exciting is that you can now throw compute at unstructured data problems that wouldn't have been possible before. Analyze every risk on my contracts, do due diligence more deeply on a prospective investment or acquisition, look through all past client interactions in an industry to find best practices to replicate, comb through life sciences research or clinical trial data for new insights, and on and on. So that's why we're insanely excited about what AI Agents can now do with content on Box.
Box@Box

GPT-5.6 Sol is a breakthrough in complex reasoning and data analysis. Here, it analyzes hundreds of pages across a lending deal, reconciles terms across agreements, financials, diligence, collateral, and risk materials, flags issues, and saves a source-cited report to Box.

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Great post on some of the dynamics to think through for the future competitive advantage in world when AI models are shared amongst firms and packing so much for the intelligence of that industry. This is going to become a core question for companies and the economy broadly over the next decade and beyond. If AI is trained on the best datasets in every single industry - like law, finance, healthcare, or life sciences - then how do you compete and differentiate in the future? This is a great open question that I don’t think is perfectly knowable right now because of how fast AI progress is happening. But ultimately it stands to reason that if intelligence is abundant and broadly available to anyone in a field, then the companies that effectively use it the best and against a set of data and knowledge that grows in value over time, will be in a strong position. There’s a huge reinforcing loop between the intelligence from models, a company’s own data, the connection of that data and AI in their workflows, and how employees ultimately interact with that system to create value. There’s no obvious point where this will become uniform across all companies in a vertical because each company will approach this in a different way, just as they already do with their talent and workflows. If anything, there will be compounding returns to those that do this best that accelerate their advantage over time. Overall, super interesting question to see how this plays out over time.
Jaya Gupta@JayaGup10

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GPT-5.6 is now out. We've been evaluating the model family on the Box AI Complex Work eval, which tests the model with the Box AI Agent on a variety of extremely hard tasks using enterprise document sets. Sol is a big step up from GPT-5.5, especially on complex data-oriented tasks that require deep reasoning and analysis, and the gains concentrate exactly where enterprise work is hardest. Here are a few examples that we saw across our tests: * Financial Services (76% vs 71%): On a multi-year projection, Sol anchored to the correct opening balance sheet date rather than assuming a clean January 1 start, then carried revenue, earnings, and interest through to the right figures year over year where one early wrong assumption compounds through every downstream cell. * Healthcare (58% vs 46%): On a critical-care case review, Sol identified the correct diagnosis and intervention and avoided the dangerous misstep of ordering imaging before the time-critical procedure, a trap GPT-5.5 walked into. * Public Sector (74% vs 63%): Handed a class's raw gradebook and a new grading directive, Sol mapped each assignment to the right weight bucket, treating homework as zero-weight practice per the directive. It recomputed every student's grade to within a tenth of a percent, where GPT-5.5 drifted partway through. * Life Sciences (60% vs 51%): Across four separate compound datasets, Sol intersected the ranked target lists exactly (case-sensitive, no shortcuts) to find the biological targets common to all four, catching the shared targets GPT-5.5 missed. Sol reasons from the source definitions and checks the documents rather than taking them at face value and it's most reliable exactly where the numbers drive real decisions. This will be huge for enterprise agents using unstructured enterprise data. GPT-5.6 will be available to customers shortly within the Box AI Studio for building custom agents with.
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Sol, Terra, and Luna, our GPT‑5.6 family of models, are starting to roll out now in ChatGPT, Codex, and the API.

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Box@Box·
We evaluated Muse Spark 1.1 from @AIatMeta Superintelligence Lab on Box’s Complex Work Eval. It was competitive with top-tier models, especially on structured data analysis and report drafting. The takeaway: models matter, but governed content is what makes enterprise AI useful at scale. Read more.👇 blog.box.com/muse-spark-11-…
AI at Meta@AIatMeta

We’re excited to introduce Muse Spark 1.1, a significant upgrade from the first Muse Spark model we released earlier this year. Along with this release, we are launching a public preview of the new Meta Model API where developers can access Muse Spark 1.1. The model is also available now in "Thinking" mode in the Meta AI app and on meta.ai. Learn more: go.meta.me/ff8e2c

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The latest AI models being dropped are getting insanely good handling complex knowledge worker tasks, and especially dealing with sophisticated domains of work like legal, professional services, healthcare, and more. Grok 4.5 is another great entry here, especially on cost + performance. As models get much better at coding, math, reasoning, and are trained on a variety of key verticals, we’re going to see more leaps in what you can do with enterprise data and documents.
Box@Box

Grok 4.5 reviewed a full Credit & Security Agreement stored in Box — the kind of dense, multi-section facility document that typically requires significant counsel time. @Grok 4.5 used Box MCP to access the file securely, extract key terms across the agreement, identify potential conflicts with existing debt covenants, and compile a summary of items for counsel to review, and finally saved the memo back to the same folder. As frontier models keep leveling up, they are unlocking more opportunities for companies to automate and unlock their enterprise content. Check-out the generated report here: app.box.com/s/zfwfud9ojwbv…

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@simonw Sorry, should have been clearer. Format in this case was meant to represent things like “definition of revenue” or “definition of a territory”. Right now everyone has named these things different across teams and data silos, which means agents will often just pull the wrong info.
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Simon Willison@simonw·
@levie "As long as data remains highly fragmented and not in standard formats" How much do standard formats matter now that the code to convert from one format to another is almost free? Having whatever those formats are be clearly documented feels more important to me at this point
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Just coming off of meetings with a couple dozen enterprise IT leaders discussing AI agents. Here are a few of the common themes that stand out: * Lots of conversation that you have to solve an operating model challenge to get the full benefits of AI. Most companies have orgs that have always operated in siloes; but agents are most effectively when they are tied to a process, which often cuts across these siloes. So the big question is how do you start to deploy centrally managed agents that can work across organizational boundaries. Who manages these agents? How do they get deployed and adopted? * Data fragmentation remains a major issue for most organizations. As long as data remains highly fragmented and not in standard formats, or data is not available to the right people and agents, enterprises are dealing with issues around being able to get answers from agents that are accurate or that conform to their business practices. This cuts across both systems with structured data (product metrics or revenue figures) and unstructured data (product roadmap or customer contracts). * Clear sense that companies need to figure out what their core data moats are going to be in the future. If everyone has access to roughly the same superintelligence from the various models, then the context that you feed the models becomes proprietary value in the future. Capturing this data and getting it into a format that agents can use becomes very important. * Everyone is trying to figure out the right metrics to manage to for AI adoption. General consensus that tokens are not the right metric per se, and people leaning more toward business outcomes (in an ideal world). For business outcomes (like more revenue or more shipped product), though, you have to get close to each individual workflow to figure out if it was successfully transformed with AI so it’s harder to manage top down. * Growing view that enterprises are going to live in a multi-model world. Lots of interest (though early in actual adoption) in layers that can route workloads to different models (frontside or open weights) for cost or performance reasons. Also enterprises are trying to figure out what things do you give to the models directly vs. what do you separate as horizontal systems and context so you can swap any system in and out. * Talent for driving AI adoption and implementation still remains a major issue and topic. Many view it as something you necessarily have to train for internally due to a shortage of talent being trained on this in the outside. As an aside, this feels like it remains a huge opportunity for those that get very good at deploying and management agents in an enterprise since most companies are looking for these skills. * The best use-cases for AI tend to be those that fundamentally change the work being done instead of just replacing an existing process and doing it more efficiently. Companies are working through their versions of this individually because it’s different per industry, but this often remains both the most exciting and higher upside uses of AI. Many more topics discussed recently, but overall it’s clear that there’s a ton of change going on with much more to come.
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A small percentage of useful data is on the open web available to all models for training or for agents to operate with. Most of it lives inside of organizations and often is in legacy systems, in people’s heads, or is fragmented across the enterprise. It’s the marketing plans, product roadmaps, development practices, contracts, financial data, strategies, and general corporate knowledge that every company operates off of. Whether it’s for training a model or used as context for agents, this data will increasingly be more valuable over time. The ability to get the right data to agents to operate on, securely, will be a defining characteristic of how companies operate and compete in the future. Effective use of AI will in the economy will largely come down to the companies that are able to have agents best understand their business and make the right decisions on their behalf. Data actually is the new oil.
will depue@willdepue

A Stargate for Data Labs are on a trajectory towards >$100B/year of data spend by 2030. As we begin the trillion-dollar compute project, we need to think about the equivalent civilizational-scale effort for the other core ingredient: data. At the foundation of the scaling revolution is a simple empirical law: deep neural networks improve smoothly, near magically, as you scale two things in proportion — (1) the size of the model and (2) the amount of data you train on. And despite the scaling laws being brutally diminishing, we’ve successfully bitten the bullet of logarithmic scaling with exponentially larger clusters and datasets, and received incredible new capabilities in return. But this exponential scaling is bound to hit some limits. Oddly enough, compute has compounded fairly smoothly without limit, with trillions flowing into hypercluster buildout. Instead, we’re starting to hit the limits of an exponential demand for data. Gone are the days of being purely in the compute-limited regime, where we had effectively infinite internet data but never enough GPUs, we’re now entering a data-limited regime. Luckily, this limitation is coinciding with staggering improvements in AI capabilities. Incredibly, we seem to have a real line of sight towards automating a majority of knowledge work with the methods we have today. RL + pretraining, and the data for each, will be generally sufficient to achieve most economically valuable tasks, given some minimal algorithmic progress and continued compute scaling. In a data-limited world, economic progress & scientific acceleration will be directly bottlenecked by our coverage in each domain. We need to see data collection as imperative, deserving the same civilizational ambition we’ve given compute. The internet as a one-time subsidy It’s underrated how much all progress in AI owes everything to the blessing of the internet, this one-time civilizational subsidy to deep learning, decades of unintentional accumulation of a perfect dataset: every book, blog post, image, video, paper, discussion, etc. all digitized and freely available. Without the internet, we’d likely see comparably minimal progress in AI today, and in fact, if you notice where systems currently underperform, it’s almost always a domain where web coverage is limited and data is private, expensive, non-digitized, or non-existent. But we’re running out of it. There are only about 300 trillion tokens of useful public human text, and the internet doesn’t produce nearly enough new high-quality data to match what scaling demands — we’re soon to hit the limits of public data for pretraining. And though the advent of RL bought us reprieve — chain-of-thought RL needed a new form of untapped data, gradable math & coding tasks, also available online — we’re quickly running dry of hard tasks for RL as well. Why do we need so much data anyways? Humans learn comparably in far less time, needing just one textbook where language models might need the equivalent of hundreds to learn a new topic. It’s possible we discover methods that are massively more data efficient — synthetic data, data efficient architectures, other exotic algorithms — but fundamental progress is slow and highly unpredictable, and the recipe we have just works today. And, while I’m wary of getting too deep here, even arbitrary data efficiency can’t replace data that just doesn’t exist in the first place. There’s a massive amount of missing information on the web: the dark matter of the internet — tacit knowledge, undocumented processes, etc. — most of which was never published and lives only inside organizations, the physical world, or just in people’s heads. I’ll leave it here and say, for reasons far longer than I can fit in this post [1], it’s best to operate on the assumption that our insatiable desire for data will continue as it has for the last decade. There will be >$100B/year in data spend by 2030 We’re not screwed yet, of course. Only a fraction of useful data in the world is on the public internet, the rest is stored inside private datasets, corporations, personal archives, universities, governments, and otherwise. Labs can and will continue to license these private datasets, or create them from scratch, like Anthropic’s book scanning project. And we’ll increasingly task human experts to manufacture new high-quality data, with a large fraction of hard RL training tasks already being sourced this way. But collecting this data, unlike before, will be expensive. As the free internet dries up and demand for data rises, we should see labs investing equally in data as compute, likely spending a significant fraction of their compute budgets on data. As we see trillions spent on compute, we should also expect hundreds of billions spent on data (human data & collection budgets), given their equivalent importance. And, notably, data spend is already tracking this way: total data spend across vendors, not counting internal lab efforts, is already roughly $7 billion per year. It’s quite reasonable we’ll see >10x by 2030. Data is the moat Data becoming increasingly private will also majorly shift the competitive landscape. While compute is a commodity — everyone buys the same chips and builds the same clusters — data really isn’t. The big reason why frontier models have felt eerily similar to one another, until now, is they were trained on substantially the same internet (pretraining data variability across labs seems pretty low). As labs diverge onto more exclusive, manually collected corpora, I think models will begin to increasingly diverge. OpenAI pulling ahead in mathematics and Anthropic in cybersecurity isn’t an accident. I really think laser-focused collection of high-quality midtraining tokens, custom RL tasks, environments, with dedicated research effort, has driven much of the visible progress in the last year. James Betker has an excellent blog about “the ‘it’ in a model is the dataset”: model architecture and compute buy you efficiency and order-of-magnitude performance, but ultimately, models, of any architecture, are such incredible approximators of their dataset that the core meat of a model boils down to just that, nothing else. Data is a major moat. AGI long, ASI short As I’ve tweeted before, I’m confident that, despite the narrative, the data labeling industry will continue to fuel great businesses and be an excellent AGI long, ASI short. The argument is just: By the time the AGI labs no longer need data, it’s probably over for everything else too [2]. In this frame, the last companies left should be the data companies, as the last speck of economically relevant data is sucked in. And these companies are already among some of the fastest-growing companies in history: Mercor, founded three years ago, is rumored to be doing $2 billion in revenue with something like a few million expert labelers under contract. While these businesses are very non-stationary, what type of data is needed shifts constantly, I don’t think that diminishes their value. The long-tail of the economy is long, and the value isn’t diminishing as you extend farther into more obscure information: as models get more capable, the value of the marginal dataset goes up, not down. Automating a full job means covering its full distribution of tasks, tools, edge-cases, and long-horizon loops. There’s some O-ring logic to it: a dataset that buys a 1% bump can justify a previously unjustifiable collection cost when it’s the difference between a system that does 99% of a job and one that does all of it [3]. The competitive dynamics of the data industry are still evolving but as demand for data is increasingly niche, ultra high-quality, expert-generated, I think we’ll see real consolidation. Again, contra-narrative, we’ll probably see true competitive differentiation built on brand, quality control of data (which, from personal experience, can vary massively), as well as in network effects from the talent networks themselves over time. We’ve already seen rapidly shifting data type demand work in favor of incumbents, benefiting those with early knowledge of where the market is headed. The binding constraint It’s truly remarkable that we seem to have the recipe — pretraining + RL — to absorb most economically valuable work, despite being far from a lot of what we expected from “AGI”. The same way chess engines revealed we never needed general intelligence to solve chess, as we originally thought, we’ll soon realize that software, mathematics, and the vast majority of the economy (including physical, just running ~3 years behind!) are the same. If recursive self-improvement or some other algorithmic breakthrough arrives, that’s wonderful, but we really don’t have to wait for it. The binding constraint between here and an automated economy isn’t that, it’s data coverage: every app, workflow, edge case, process, etc. sitting in private stores or someone’s head. Ultimately, while we make tremendous strides in more efficient model architectures, and clusters like Stargate equip us with zettaflop-scale compute, we really aren’t making rapid progress collecting the data we lack. We’ll soon live in a world where we have the methods & compute to accelerate scientific progress or economic growth, but not the data. And we’re already there today: frontier models would surely be as good at accounting/many medical tasks/legal advice as they are at software engineering if we only had the same pretraining & RL coverage as we did for code. I really want to drill this in: The speed at which we automate the economy is going to be directly rate-limited by our ability to collect data about it. Worth noting that under this assumption, with data as defensible and directly proportional to economic & scientific progress, data should also be considered a national strategic asset like compute. Imagine what we’d do in a world where we had a Manhattan Project-effort for AI and needed to mobilize data collection as a limiting factor. We should be concerned about China, with greater state capacity and authoritarian economic control, being capable of mobilizing data collection at national scale, potentially compounding their economy and scientific output faster than us down the line. A Stargate for data I’m leaving my complete ideas for a future post, as this one is already far too long, so I’d really like to pose the question here. Stargate exists because we organized trillions of dollars, international strategy, gigawatts around compute as a fundamental ingredient. What would equivalent ambition look like for data? Obviously, scaling data collection, a heterogeneous mass of information across the economy, isn’t going to be as clear as scaling compute, as a homogenous infrastructural effort. A core division will be first, coverage — all uncaptured knowledge sitting across the economy/science/physical world and all that simply isn’t recorded — and, secondly, sheer volume in the domains we already train on: more hard math tasks, more high-quality web text, way more coding data, more legal drafts, etc. I have a post coming soon which breaks down my proposals. There’s a lot of room for creativity. Quickly, we’ll probably want to start with a deep census of what we have and what we’re missing, predict what the 2030 model will still be bad at and work backward to what we should be collecting today. You can probably license a large amount, leveraging high lab valuations to buy datasets or companies altogether. There’s an adversarial nature to a lot of this collection with firms, so there’s lots of engineering to do this correctly. We should go convince important companies to turn off deletion policies, even if we’re not buying from them yet. Data flywheels in consumer products will be massive. Confidential training, government legislation for grant-funded research, running companies at a loss for their data, etc. We’re headed towards hundreds of billions in expenditure, national prioritization, and major data limitation on the horizon. We have a great opportunity to think creatively about what a megaproject for data would look like: How do we, deliberately this time, construct the next internet’s worth of data? Footnotes: [1]: I’ll probably soon publish my much longer post explaining my position on data efficiency and why the value of this data is still pretty high in most worlds regardless of new algorithms. [2]: The “AGI freeroll” bet: heads you win, tails ASI flips the world upside down anyways. [3]: We already see a glint of validation of this point, given the data market is strongly tilting towards ultra-high-quality agentic data, rather than unskilled labeling — niche expert workflows, live environments, and evaluations requiring increasingly obscure talent & knowledge — yet shows increasing, not decreasing, revenues.

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Aaron Levie
Aaron Levie@levie·
Great post on how to think about open source AI and the applied AI layer. Two things will always be true in AI. Frontier intelligence will likely remain at the forefront of solving brand new used cases and often be used for orchestrating and planning of any type of complex workflow. At the same time, as use-cases become mature and predictable in an enterprise context, you can begin to peel off some set of the tokens to either lower cost open or closed models *or* models that are trained for the task at hand. Doing this too early in the adoption curve of any new use-case doesn’t make sense as you don’t know what you’re optimizing for, which is why there will always be a bit of a lag here. This process can essentially run on forever as there is no end for both the benefits of frontier intelligence or tuned models. This is why the spend and token volume for both approaches will continue to go up for years to come as we’re still early on both. Again, the only reason this dynamic is possible though is because of the applied AI layer that can effectively eval their workflows in a specific domain, choose a mixture of models to solve tasks, and have enough scale to eventually train their own models for their purposes.
Jesse Zhang@thejessezhang

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Aaron Levie
Aaron Levie@levie·
The battle in AI is shaping up to be a battle for context. Everything in AI is about making sure that agents are effective as possible. That effectiveness comes down to whether the agent has the right domain expertise, access to the right context and tools to work with, and are involved in workflow in a way that users can easily interact with, review its work, and incorporate it into the rest of the process. As a consequence, the platforms that are able to capture and leverage the best and most context within their agents —and be able to pick the right models for the task- will be the place where agents do their best work. You can just look at coding agents, legal agents, or support agents as examples of what this looks like at scale. This is why the applied AI layer has a lot more value than just being an LLM wrapper. The ability to organize the critical knowledge for the work being done, and maintain this knowledge in a governed way where only the right people and agents have access, and the ability to improve the context for agents more and more over time, is critical. Over time, this layer will be able to route work between a variety of models, leveraging frontier intelligence for planning and orchestration and review, and a mix of lower cost models (open or closed) for the large volume of work between these tasks. The applied layer is also in a good position to train and develop its own models as well that are purpose built for their domains. Never good to bet against the bitter lesson, but equally taking a near frontier base model and post training it for just one type of domain work can -in many cases- lower costs or deliver better performance for certain tasks. Finally, this applied layer is also where most of the change management of the workflow will need to occur. This is why FDEs are so important at the applied layer, because this is the point where the customer needs to have specific business problem solved by a particular vendor. Whichever companies can solve that completely in an end-to-end fashion will have the greatest moats. As each day goes on, we’re learning more about what the likely long term market dynamics will look like in AI.
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Aaron Levie
Aaron Levie@levie·
The deployment of AI in the enterprise beyond just interacting with a chatbot will unequivocally take real work to align AI systems to the underlying business processes they’re involved in and drive the desired outcomes. Most workflows weren’t designed for AI agents to just drop into. Workflows today in the enterprise deal with fragmented data, legacy software systems that agents can’t connect with, institutional instead of documented knowledge, and more. To deploy agents reliably at scale you need to get data cleaned up, modernize IT systems, figure out evals, drive change management for the new end state process, and so on. This also involves designing where humans remain in the loop (which will mean entirely new ways people interact with the workflows), and figuring out what a company’s new IP looks like. This is why so many applied AI companies are expanding FDE efforts and launching deploycos, and why the FDE role will be one of the most critical jobs in tech going forward. There’s a tremendous amount of work to be done on this front.
Sheel Mohnot@pitdesi

MSFT putting $2.5B and 6,000 engineers in “Frontier Co” Now Microsoft, Amazon, OpenAI and Anthropic are all in the Palantir-like deployco business.

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