Logic Doctrine

@Write4Republic Is it likely that a belief system that had no historical role in founding or shaping America would contribute to the sustainability of society?

Can Islam coexist in America?

@Kekius_Sage Would the evidence jeopardize our ability to have genuine choice between good and evil during our life?

What would count as scientific evidence for God, if such evidence exists?

@elonmusk If a woman has prioritized her career over starting a family and has reached an age where reversing that choice is no longer feasible, is she more likely to advocate for broad change that de-emphasize traditional family structures in order to validate her life?

@Write4Republic Does it relate to the good times that create weak men?

Why are most Americans weak both physically and mentally?

@TheRabbitHole Will the narrative change as more statistics show Whites at a disadvantage compared to other races?

Whites consume antidepressants at higher rates compared to other races. Over 1/3 of White Women are on antidepressants.

@elonmusk @GadSaad Why are corporations successfully able to use marketing to make us want certain products and lifestyles, but we are unable to shift Western culture away from civilizational suicide?

A case study in suicidal empathy. Read @GadSaad ‘s upcoming book on the subject.

Our hyper-promiscuous culture actively discourages healthy family formation, transgenderism sterilizes the next generation, homosexuality removes millions of adults from reproduction, processed junk food wreaks hormonal havoc on fertility, and crushing economic pressure to provide for the Third World drains native resources, does it seem like Western society been hit by the perfect storm to reduce birth rates?

Elon keeps warning about birth rates because this is not a spreadsheet problem South Korea near 0.7 fertility US hitting record lows Most rich countries far below replacement Were more focused and getting very busy with current lifestyle that we're making no plans for the future generation But none of it matters if civilization forgets to make the next generation Abundance is pointless without humans to inherit it

A hyper-promiscuous culture actively discourages healthy family formation, transgenderism sterilizes the next generation, homosexuality removes millions of adults from reproduction, processed junk food wreaks hormonal havoc on fertility, and the crushing economic pressure to provide for the Third World drains native resources, has Western society been hit by the perfect storm to annihilate birth rates?

Sperm counts down 51.6%. Testosterone down 60%. Birth rates in total collapse. By 2030, nearly half of women aged 25–44 will have zero children and stay single. This is civilizational suicide happening right in front of us. We are sterilizing ourselves into extinction. It boggles my mind that there’s no major campaign in the West to reverse this, and importing people from other continents is not the answer. Wake up and fix it NOW, before it’s too late.

@GadSaad For those of us that agree with you, is there anything we can do besides sit back and watch Western society decline?

Because conservatives believe that there is something worth conserving including one's genes. Progressives believe that to have children is to rape Mother Earth. Hope this helps. Read Suicidal Empathy.

Referring to historical empires is not a compelling argument against action if our goal is long-term survival and continuity. Every major empire has eventually collapsed, declined, fragmented, or transformed beyond recognition. That pattern underscores, rather than undermines, why it is vital to address the root causes of decline in our own societies. I’ve already outlined the importance of why this is bad for the world in previous messages. On demographics specifically: without a sustained recovery in native birth rates, the trajectory is one of gradual but compounding decline. Over generations, this leads to population shrinkage, loss of cultural continuity, strained institutions, and eventual erasure as a distinct people. The process may unfold slowly, but the downstream effects, labor shortages, aging societies, weakened social cohesion, and reduced capacity for self-determination, are already visible and accelerating. Finally, the existence of challenges elsewhere (such as in China) is not a reason to accept them here. Every society must confront its own realities and make choices suited to its history, values, and circumstances. Imitating problems is not a strategy for success.

@logic_doctrine @Bbmorg While that is mostly admirable, every empire in history has relied on immigration. The problem is we see growth as the only way forward. Even China is struggling with both rates. It is the problem when countries hit a threshold of heath, education and wealth.

If diversity is such a genuine problem why do racists have to lie about it so much?

@OlivierRoggevn @BorisJohnson Essentially the West will be handing over stewardship of the world to populations that currently struggle to feed themselves.

@logic_doctrine @BorisJohnson I think that everyone up to generation Z is just completely brainwashed into thinking the world would be a better place without European nations.

Falling birth rates aren’t a disaster, they’re the best bit of global news in a long time mol.im/a/15782963

Many European societies have historically led the world in foreign aid, environmental protection, human rights enforcement, and the promotion of liberal democratic values—secular governance, individual liberties, gender equality, and the rule of law. These contributions have benefited global stability and progress. If the cultural composition of Europe changes significantly toward groups whose values on these issues differ markedly (as shown in integration studies on immigration), those priorities could erode. The result would be a Europe less able or willing to play its traditional role on the world stage. In short, sustained sub-replacement native fertility plus large-scale immigration from culturally dissimilar regions risks economic contraction, diminished global influence, and the gradual loss of the very institutions and values that have made Europe a net positive force for the world. Addressing this requires honest discussion about both boosting native birth rates and ensuring immigration aligns with long-term cultural and economic sustainability—not slogans or denial.

@OlivierRoggevn @BorisJohnson That has definitely been the trend, whether intentional or not. Let me share a response I shared with someone else.

There is no simple or proven solution to Europe’s birth rate crisis, sustained sub-replacement fertility has never been reversed at a continental scale in modern history, but here is a realistic path forward. The core priority must be raising native European birth rates and ending the reliance on mass immigration as a quick fix for labor shortages and aging populations. Economic immigration can temporarily fill gaps, but it does not solve the underlying demographic imbalance and often creates new long-term pressures on housing, welfare systems, and social cohesion. Raising birth rates is the hardest part. It will almost certainly require a deeper cultural shift: moving from a consumption-driven, individually focused lifestyle shaped by corporate marketing toward one that values family formation and long-term generational thinking. Policies can help, affordable housing for young families, reformed tax and benefit systems that reward children, expanded parental leave, and reduced economic precarity, but lasting change depends on cultural norms that once again see children as a source of meaning and legacy rather than a cost or lifestyle obstacle. At the same time, Europe should maintain a healthy pride in its own heritage and achievements, just as every other civilization does, without descending into hatred or judgment of others. All societies have made mistakes; none are defined solely by them. On immigration itself, the approach should move toward the model used successfully by several Gulf states, such as the UAE. Large numbers of economic migrants could be shifted to clearly temporary work visas with no automatic path to citizenship or permanent settlement. Those already here on economic grounds (as opposed to genuine refugees or asylum seekers) should have realistic options for voluntary return with savings and skills acquired, or strictly time-limited status. The goal is not hostility toward immigrants, but protecting the distinct identity and continuity of the host society. This stance actually preserves genuine diversity. When distinct peoples and cultures mix completely and assimilate into a single blended identity, the result is not more diversity, it is the erasure of the very differences that made the world culturally rich in the first place. Protecting the unique character of European societies alongside the unique character of others is the only way to maintain real diversity long-term. Finally, Europe should recognize that large-scale economic emigration creates a brain drain for many developing countries. The most ambitious and educated often leave, leaving behind populations that are, on average, less equipped to build strong institutions and economies at home. While remittances provide short-term cash, they do not replace the human capital lost. Sustainable global development is better served when nations retain their own talent rather than exporting it indefinitely. In short: raise birth rates through cultural and policy renewal at home, manage immigration as a temporary labor tool rather than a demographic replacement strategy, and pursue policies that respect the distinct identity of every people, including Europeans. It is a difficult, multi-generational project, but the alternative is continued demographic decline and the gradual transformation of Europe into something fundamentally different from what built its current prosperity and freedoms.

@logic_doctrine @Bbmorg Ok, I’ll play. What’s the solution ?

@OlivierRoggevn @BorisJohnson It is an unusual situation that so many people agree with you, want a better future for their people, but don't know the way forward or have any possible solutions.

@logic_doctrine @BorisJohnson Not that I'm aware off. What I'm suggesting attempts to address these lessons from the past. Even the most extreme and absolute purges were followed by periods in which everything was made undone. A sensible constitutional law would be hard to set aside.

Here is what the concern is. Europe’s below-replacement birth rates—now at a historic low of 1.34 children per woman across the EU in 2024, with Germany at roughly 1.35—have persisted for over fifty years in countries like Germany. When today’s older generations pass away, the native population will shrink dramatically unless something changes. Without enough young people entering the workforce, economies face labor shortages, strained pension systems, slower growth, and reduced global competitiveness. Immigration offsets the raw numbers but changes the equation in other ways. Immigrant communities—particularly from regions with higher-fertility cultural norms—tend to have larger families. Foreign-born mothers already account for 24% of all births in the EU, and over one-third in several Western European countries including Germany. Over generations, this shifts the demographic balance, giving these growing populations greater political and cultural influence, many of which have values very different than the ones Europeans have. Many European societies have historically led the world in foreign aid, environmental protection, human rights enforcement, and the promotion of liberal democratic values—secular governance, individual liberties, gender equality, and the rule of law. These contributions have benefited global stability and progress. If the cultural composition of Europe changes significantly toward groups whose values on these issues differ markedly (as shown in integration studies), those priorities could erode. The result would be a Europe less able or willing to play its traditional role on the world stage. In short, sustained sub-replacement native fertility plus large-scale immigration from culturally dissimilar regions risks economic contraction, diminished global influence, and the gradual loss of the very institutions and values that have made Europe a net positive force for the world. Addressing this requires honest discussion about both boosting native birth rates and ensuring immigration aligns with long-term cultural and economic sustainability—not slogans or denial.

@logic_doctrine @Bbmorg Look at the numbers, there’s also significant migration between EU countries.

@adiosmuchachos4 @Bbmorg According to Google AI

@logic_doctrine @Bbmorg By immigrants, where are they from?

@mjazoe_ Why do you think white people, or Germans specifically, are held to a different standard than others who show pride in their race?

Some people are twisting my words into something they’re not. Nothing I said supports racism or denies history. Noone should be ashamed of their skin colour and origin including Germans. Individuals today should be judged by their own actions. I don't live with hate in my heart

@adiosmuchachos4 @Bbmorg To understand you correctly, a fifth of the entire population, only counting recent immigrants, would not have any affect of the birth rate figures?

@logic_doctrine @Bbmorg Not really as the % of immigrants is still relatively small so doesn’t have a significant affect on the average birth rate.

@Toribabieegirl Could it have something to do with fertility?

Why does society consider women in their 30s old, but see men in their 30s as young??