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If $AAOI are projecting $1.4B a quarter q3 2027 ($471m/month), which is $5.6B revenue annualized, (targeting 40%+ gaap gross margins).
And they’re a $8B MC…
Or if personal $SIVE CW Win capacity projections are around ~$400m midpoint array revenue off 60% gross margins.
And that’s a $1B MC.
Just applying a low 20 fwd p/e might rerate optical names considerably.
Even with other names like $LITE, they’re completely sold out for the next 2 years, and having that sort of demand visibility… Is not a bubble.
Europeans tend to use TTM to value companies while optical names are 2027-2028 growth stories.
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Morgan Stanley listed $SIVE as the three core CPO laser players alongside $LITE and $COHR in their note 3 days ago.
Fidelity Research, JP Morgan and others have started to take active positions. They recently raised an oversubscribed institutional round at 57 SEK.
This is all ahead of US NASDAQ listing.
I personally see short term liquidity disconnects relative to forward revenue around now and I'm sure institutions are capitalizing on it.
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Lot of people were curious about $SIVE capacity volume ramp modeling through fab-light (Win Semi + others):
Using 10% of Win's wafer capacity as a low-end allocation (65% yield assumption, $50-$75 ASP):
Sivers would support $341-$512M worth of annual array revenue. Given upper end of managements 50-60%+ gross margin target, would be roughly:
$205–307M of annual gross profit.
Against Sivers current ~$1.1B MC, would be ~:
3.6–5.4× MC/gross profit if this capacity scenario plays out in 2028.
And at 15% would be $307–461M in gross profit (2.4–3.6× MC/gross profit)
Sivers CEO also replied that they're working with more fabs for capacity. And from an older deck, there looks to be more qualifications since 2024.
So capacity targets might be larger than what's stated here as CPO takes off.
I also expect to see revenue pipeline projections hiked in future quarters, as more qualification suppliers to into HVM.
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As for demand side, CW also happens to be very bottlenecked.
Lumentum are buying CW off the open market due to EML obligations from their ER transcript.
And $AMD are signing LTAs to secure CW capacity (from Trendforce). So when Sivers is ramping with $GFS, $JBL, Ayar, $POET, O-NET and others...
Given the current constraints, it's highly likely any independent qualified capacity that comes online would be absorbed.
And as a cherry on top, Morgan Stanley named $SIVE (~$1.1B) as one of the three leading CPO laser players .
Alongside $55B+ players Coherent and Lumentum in their recent note for a reason...
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TLDR: Sivers only needs a low end allocation from Win to make substantial gross income relative to current valuations.
I think the largest revenue upside that isn't modeled in if they TAM expansion with M&A after US NASDAQ listing.
By copying the Lumentum playbook with Cloud Light to build out entire transceiver modules or with optical engines.


Anders Storm@StormDirac
Your assumptions are wrong. Win Semiconductors has a InP capacity of 35.000 wafers per year. Assume even a low number 10% of that is 3500 wafers. There are approximately 3000 CW arrays on a wafer, price per Array >$50. At only 10% of this capacity Sivers could sell for more than $500m just for arrays..then you have pluggables, wireless...at 20% capacity...even more. Production qual has been ongoing for sometime, as WIN mgmt confirmed, hence should not be too far away.
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