@RepMarx1890 -literally only ever mentioned it was bourgeois revolution, which isn’t saying much since he’s also on record as saying the British Empire’s bourgeois revolution was completed in 1688 via the Glorious Revolution
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@RepMarx1890 Even from a Historically Progressive perspective it doesn’t make any sense, expansion of settler colonialism slows down proletarianisation and massively expanded the pb/middle classes. Also it’s funny cause Lenin didn’t support it on historically progressive grounds and Marx-
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If I see anyone say it was historically progressive I'm gonna block you.
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The Amerikan Revolution was bad. It was an uprising of genocidal ethnonationalist that ALL imagined a sea to sea amerikan empire free of all the indigenous peoples of the continent. And all these figures supporting it or thinking highly of it doesn't change that.
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@maoisthnvx_25 @TheEggpie And they usually use this argument in reverse as well talking about “I don’t care about European opinions” or whatever like Europe is oppressing them or some shit.
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@maoisthnvx_25 @TheEggpie For the most part if you’re talking to Americans this is valid regardless of the country they critique because it almost invariably ends up being some “we actually aren’t that bad bullshit” 95% of the time.
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as an american it is my solemn duty to hit other americans with this though. crab in a bucket style. otherwise they get to thinking about sharing their opinions too much
maowadi 📕 🪂🔻@maoisthnvx_25
By far the stupidest line of argument I’ve seen on this app is “you live in X country so you can’t criticize Y.” It’s like the woke third worldist/anti-imperialist leftslop version of “stop speaking over Y voices”
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@purplewaves7 It’s big across Texas but is most dominant in the South Central + Southeast areas. Also they have like 60 locations in Mexico too.
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Is HEB only a South Texas thing? Always thought it was big all across Texas
marxist-elverumist 🔮🌹🚩🌎@purplewaves7
@sanosreptla washingtonpost.com/business/inter… very cool map
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@crawfishremoul @stendhalist Offshoring is successful for the country that does the offshoring specifically
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@mangchuchop @stendhalist Successful for Japan, Korea, China largely because the first country was the original and pollinated the last two in that order
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"Capitalism lifted a bajillion people from poverty" yes v interesting how that moslty happened in China where they had complete fiscal independence to do any reforms they want & the IMF couldn't force anything bec China had little debt since USSR gave them most of what they
Woland 🇵🇸@stendhalist
Wild to think about China and Egypt both transitioning into capitalism/free-market economics at roughly the same time and China got rich while Egypt became a poverty-stricken hellhole
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@crawfishremoul @stendhalist Offshoring has been successful but even then not all of those schemes actually grow the economy of the country they’re located in (Bangladesh, Thailand, Nicaragua, etc are still extremely poor)
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@mangchuchop @stendhalist It was tried. GE moved all their television manufacturing out of the US by 1985 to Malaysia. Didn’t stick because most offshoring schemes failed
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@stendhalist @nukedwest An economic crash wouldn’t cause enough disarray for the bourgeois to be distracted by an insurrection, a collapse of the state/a major war would significantly curb the ability to focus resources on stopping a communist insurrection which is critical
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@stendhalist @nukedwest It doesn’t necessarily have to be a world war, but (and this is especially true in the imperial core) a total or at least partial state collapse would be necessary because a proletarian militia does not stand a chance resources wise to take down a modern state military
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All socialists revolutions except 1 happened only because of world wars
Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution Podcast@GPCRPodcast
@naolovesindo I think a lot of modern leftists think that a revolution will inherently look like the Russian Civil War, a revolution (that was nearly defeated in 1918-1919) that was mercifully short only because of WWI having just happened and the fact that the Whites were so fractured.
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@ChunCuiJingYan Free market good until China attempts to sell their EVs here, in which case we have to advocate for Trumpian protectionism because something something UAW wanted this
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@mangchuchop Or indeed that it is lesser evilism until the MOLLAHS are involved in which case the entire system hardliner or reformist has to be done away with unconditionally
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@ChunCuiJingYan It's funny because the "left of center" and similar people who hold this view have identical views to institutional neocons. The average neocon position legit is "we don't think America is perfect but it's better than the alternative"
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@mangchuchop They act with a sense of incredulousness when the logic dictates criticism of ww2 as a moral narrative
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@ChunCuiJingYan Basically they’re trying to take the “nuanced” position which ultimately boils down to neocon politics
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@ChunCuiJingYan The problem with anti-campism has always been that the vast majority of its opponents use it to signal that the US isn’t actually that bad since their entire politics is based on supporting the lesser evil so the other side being simply also bad doesn’t cut it
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@chaery_fox Guy whose Matt Walsh, Steven Crowder, and Charlie Kirk adjacent is the voice of reason but can’t defend anybody to the left of Bernard Sanderson
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@mangchuchop "I can defend the guy who said obama was an isis agent but I draw the line at Trump saying haitians are eating pets".
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I talk about liberals who hate Trump but love all his allies and 15 minutes later this tweet appears on my timeline.
🏳️🌈Mar G-O 🌐🇺🇦@MariGO2thepolls
Anyone who is happy about this is delusional and naive. Shapiro is the voice of reason in the right and you will miss him
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@chaery_fox It’s so crazy I thought she was talking about Josh Shapiro at first cause that’s at least make some semblance of sense
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@chaery_fox Defending Ben Shapiro of all people like this is insanity lmao, he’s the primary source (in terms of popularity) of numerous right wing talking points
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@purplewaves7 It always gets left out that the first world is still the main driver of meat consumption despite consumption growing faster in middle income countries. If the first world went vegan it would decrease meat consumption but more importantly the market would be much less lucrative
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if everyone went vegan, sure it would not end all animal abuse. it would unambiguously end *most* animal abuse lol
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this is so galaxy brained. sure capitalism would magically keep slaughterhouses alive somehow. whatever
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If millions stopped eating meat today, demand would still exist bc capitalism doesn’t exploit animals just to “feed the poor” it constantly creates new markets & invents new “necessities” to sustain profit. u need more than basic economics to analyze sociopolitical systems.
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@ByrontheBulb1 @nukedwest Especially true post WWI/WWII ish where the majority of communist theorists (including leftcom theorists) do not have a significantly positive view. People like Mao and Lenin suffered from a lack of historical context/hindsight available to them
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@ByrontheBulb1 @nukedwest It’s also worth noting that most Marxist theorists who had positive views of the American Revolution were born in regions with poor education that had fallen behind the rest of the world (I.e the Russian and Qing Empires). Most of the European revolutionaries were more reserved
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Karl Marx also thought that Mexicans were inferior to Americans doesn't make it right
Sam Haselby@samhaselby
Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin praised the American Revolution and claimed it as part of their heritage of revolutionary struggle. In 1959, the Mount Vernon Ladies Association welcomed Fidel Castro to Mount Vernon on the grounds that their revolutionary honor demanded it.
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