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David Albert
David Albert@Stevman_90·
@mattdillamonkey @CurutMincu37043 @aesculapiusw No wonder who is not getting it, I think you are relying on a translator to write in English. Your boys claimed that al-Shinqiti says "X" but when we show you the opposite of that, you say "that's ad-hoc attempts to reconcile" lol x.com/i/status/20416…
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@mattdillamonkey @CurutMincu37043 @aesculapiusw You're from sweden, now I understand why English goes above your head! These are not "ad hoc attempts" this is the same exegesis your fellow Christians are appealing to to show you this. So without it, you won't even be able to discuss this since it is not directly in the Qur'an.

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Jai@JaiNDoC_RL·
Dawah Muslims, Since you claim that there are no contradictions among the Qira'at… In the "one Qur’an" (11:81), does it say the messengers commanded Lot to: A) Take his family to leave the city, except his wife. (Lot is commanded NOT to take his wife.) OR B) Take his family to leave the city. (Lot is commanded to take his family and NOT exclude his wife.) I'll be waiting
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Jvnior@Jvnior

There is no contradiction. Hafs and Khalaf do NOT have different Qur’ans. They have different QIRA’at accepted styles of reciting the exact same text revealed to Muhammad ﷺ. A word can be recited with a slight difference in pronunciation (like ajeebta vs ajeebtu) while the meaning stays exactly the same. Christians have: • Catholic Bible • Protestant Bible • Orthodox Bible • 66 books vs 73 books vs 78 books • Thousands of manuscript variants We have ONE Qur’an. Not one letter of the written text changes. The QIRA’at are like accents — not different scriptures. British English: “colour” American English: “color” Same meaning. Same sentence. Same message. The Qur’an’s message doesn’t change. Its theology doesn’t change. Its rulings don’t change. Its story doesn’t change. Only the recitation style changes, and all are traced back to the Prophet ﷺ through mass-transmitted chains. If anything, QIRA’at PROVE preservation, not contradiction. Millions memorize it. Billions recite it. Not a single verse lost. Not a single doctrine altered. Your attempt is cute, but it collapses instantly. Try again.

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@Stevman_90 @CurutMincu37043 @aesculapiusw He’s quoting a passage that literally says “as if it were said”. That’s not preserving the actual command its reconstructing one to reconcile the readings. My point still stands that we don’t have a single, clear historical command, only a bunch of ad hoc rescue attempts.
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@Stevman_90 @CurutMincu37043 @aesculapiusw Those never address the contradictory command from the angel only the meaning of the verse. Try again and understand my point. Maybe you can steelman it?
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@Stevman_90 @CurutMincu37043 @aesculapiusw How can one version present a statement affirmatively while the other presents it negatively and still be considered complementary rather than contradictory like in 10:16?
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David Albert
David Albert@Stevman_90·
@CurutMincu37043 @aesculapiusw @mattdillamonkey I know English is not your first language but did you try to understand what I said? Did I say "dialect"? I said a "reading" which includes both dialects and some variants of the same words with different Tāshkil diacritical marks with complementary meanings, NOT Qur’an versions!
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@RealBenLuigi @Fearless__Truth I would say there is some difference. Most unitarians reject the pre existence of the son while arians dont do that.
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@Nicholai_Korea Damn i just saw his vid today, never knew
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Rurouni_Phoenix@Rurouni_Phoenix·
And I wonder what the average secular academic professor of Islamic Studies thinks of these various claims. Because I really would like to hear an academic take on stuff like this because they need to respond to apologetic smear campaigns
Wise-Up@WISE_UPX

@Rurouni_Phoenix It’s not the only freaky thing we know about Muhammad. We also know that Aisha was cleaning semen off his clothes, and he was sucking on boys tongues, even talks about grown men being breastfed. If Al-zutt is your only concern then you’re in for a whole heap of shubuhat

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علی@Baginssis·
@Bendersama_ @blqckplqguej @Asmongold There is no child marriage in islam. There is marriage only when one hits puberty and there are certain other conditions too. It's not our fault that you think someone who is 17 years and 364 days is considered a child according to you.
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blqck plqgue j@blqckplqguej·
🚨 CHILD MARRIAGE LEGAL?! 🚨 @Asmongold pathetically tries to dismiss Epstein files as being important to talk about and goes on about how muslims should fix their child marriage problem first He soon discovers that the US still has this problem after using grok
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Sheikh Dodoria
Sheikh Dodoria@CaptainNoticer·
@Falcons16858 @009Foodie @ChristLogic_ @apostateofallah I gave a direct response to your clear misunderstanding of the verse. The burden of proof is on you to show that Islamic fiqh allows for child marriage. In typical Christian format, you cherry pick and isolate verses when you lack knowledge.
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Sara H (Apostate of Allah)@apostateofallah·
I’ve noticed that many Muslims on X feel uncomfortable with the fact that Muhammad was a pedophile who raped a 9 year old girl when he was 56, and instead they are making all different types of excuses. Muslims, I want you to know that I SEE you and understand your consternation. So, let me help you out by showing that not only was Muhammad a pedophile false prophet, but he also made halal the marriage, divorce, and remarriage of prepubescent little girls. This isn’t me making things up. This is the Quran and their tafsirs. If you hate the abuse of little girls, you would condemn this and leave Islam.
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@FarrukhMustafa5 @NealGardner_ So jews and christians today generally dont reject islam? Even granting ur reading thats ridiculous
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@okayestshepherd @HadesUndead @ArthShahverdyan You claimed "Delusional dipshits who believe in a Trinity shouldn't get to appeal to logic", thats a minimum of 2 fallacies. If you dont undestand this i cant help you
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@AbdullahIbnal @ShaykhIshraq Are you ai? This is one of if not the most famous work of his. Read this part you ignoramous.
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Abdullah IbnAl
Abdullah IbnAl@AbdullahIbnal·
@mattdillamonkey @ShaykhIshraq It starts by saying anal is foul & sinful, sex with a corpse even worse Then it mentions opinions on the issue of sex with a minor The opinions are on if a death penalty is given Mughni is a comparative legal encyclopedia If you want IbnQ’s opinion refer to one of his works
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Abdullah Ansar
Abdullah Ansar@ShaykhIshraq·
According to many Islamic jurists, including Ibn Qudāma, istimtāʿ (derivation of pleasure) from pre-pubescent children is permissible. This is also related to the medieval exegesis of Q 65:4.
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@AbdullahIbnal @ShaykhIshraq I dont know what specific thing this academic is referencing sure but ibn qudama did allow sex with girls before puberty
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Abdullah IbnAl
Abdullah IbnAl@AbdullahIbnal·
@mattdillamonkey @ShaykhIshraq The issue isn’t awareness the issue is whether ibnqudāmah even said that You might not know much about western academia but hey what can I say You’ll figure it out when he quoted the original source
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