Farmy McFarmerson

@Russet_Wolf13 @KirstiMiller30 What are you on about now? Where does it say “they responded to our insane concerns”???

@mcfarmerson @KirstiMiller30 "They responded to our insane concerns, THAT MEANS OUR CONCERNS WERE LEGITIMATE!"

The male 100m freestyle 🌏 record holder (46:40), if he took HRT his hemoglobin levels would reduce to F norms in just 3 months. This is the opposite of 🩸 doping. He wouldn't break the women's 🌎 record (49:93) after just one year of HRT. x.com/kirstimiller30…

So what’s actually happening here is: you said: the science is in, and there isn’t an advantage I asked for the science You did not post the science I asked for it again You then, likely after tirelessly looking for this mythical “science” that would prove there is no advantage and coming up empty handed, decided you weren’t going to share the science, because I failed in principle, or something along those lines? All anyone hears, when you spout off these cockamamie excuses you keep giving for not “sharing the science” is: I, Russet Wolf13, DON’T HAVE ANY SCIENCE AND I AM EXTREMELY EMBARRASED THAT I DIDNT LOOK IT UP BEFORE SAYING IT! BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO LOOK FOR THE SCIENCE, THERE WAS NONE TO BE FOUND! SO INSTEAD OF JUST ADMITTING I WAS WRONG, I HAVE NOW DECIDED TO TURN THIS INTO A ROUSE OF SORTS, WHERE I TRY TO STEER THIS ARGUMENT AWAY FROM SCIENCE IN HOPE HE WILL FORGET THAT I EVEN BROUGHT UP THE SCIENCE. And, yeah yeah yeah, everything is always “the bigots/facists/racists have infiltrated so and so organization, cuz they didn’t do something that i like! That is just as easy to see as it is to see you don’t have the science

@mcfarmerson @psychodriver614 @TheSWPrincess So still no science, just the IOC caving to fascists again.

Lady, we all WISH you were silenced so we wouldn't have to listen to you complain about placing 5th instead of 4th! You weren't that good!

@NotThatDragonD @Milluminatiii @nyaraVT Try again.

@Milluminatiii @nyaraVT 100% of the peer reviewed scientific studies on the topic of trans women in sports all agree that after 2+ years of HRT, trans women have zero significant unfair advantage in sports & might have a significant unfair disadvantage vs c1z women. This isn't "pretending." It's fact.

"trans women are too strong for women's sports" "trans women are too smart for women's chess" "trans women are too skilled for women's esport" I'M A WEAK AND DUMB FOX GIRL ON THE INTERNET LEAVE ME ALONE😭😭

@nyaraVT No. No it doesn’t. And even if if did, it’s irrelevant. Choices have consequences. You want to the be the opposite sex that you are, you don’t get to play sports against your new sex. Just start a trans league so no one has to fight about it.

They refuse to acknowledge that the “huge advantage” disappears when you block testosterone for a certain period of time, because it breaks their entire worldview of “being male > being female”

@Milluminatiii @nyaraVT Correct

@nyaraVT Pretending that someone born biologically male doesn't have a huge advantage physically over someone who was biologically born female hurts the trans movement more than anything. You are literally denying tested and true scientific facts. You can be trans, done be a moron.

@JuliusGoat @brookelynn74 This seems relevant.

Calling a person “silenced” who was able to make an entire lucrative career over tying for fifth in a single amateur competition is wild.

@KirstiMiller30 @brookelynn74 @Riley_Gaines_ Oh hey, you might find this interesting:

Riley challenged me to a live debate on her show but after two minutes she chickened out. The first question was about bone mineral density: @Riley_Gaines_ only fools the fools.

@Russet_Wolf13 @psychodriver614 @TheSWPrincess Oh hey, what fortuitous timing! Check this out!

@mcfarmerson @psychodriver614 @TheSWPrincess Yes, the science is that you have zero evidence of your claim and are dismissed out of hand. No advantage has materialized. You failed on first principles.

What’s my claim? Listen, you said the science was in. Now you cannot provide the science. We both know if you had it, you would provide it. You made a statement without actually looking at the science before hand, which isn’t smart, but it’s not the end of the world. And what are you talking about that an advantage has never materialized? Lia Thomas was ranked something like 200th and 550th in the 200 and 500 when he competed against men. He ranked 1st and 5th in those respective events when he competed against women. He never came close to winning against other men. How can you possibly think that isn’t proof?

@brookelynn74 @bobblesyawn @TheSWPrincess If “doctors treat these people as women, because womanhood is an identity” as you just stated, why wouldn’t doctors treat men for infertility if these men tell the doctor that they identify as a woman?

You have horrible memory issues...my initial stance on the childbearing thing was: Reducing a woman's value to her ability to get pregnant is medically wrong and pretty insulting. Millions of cisgender women cannot have children due to age, health issues, or being born without a uterus. Doctors treat these people as women because womanhood is an identity, not a reproductive status and not all infertility can be resolved. A person's gender does not vanish just because they cannot conceive a child.

This just keeps getting better 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Laurel Hubbard set records as a man because the division was brand new! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 AFTER he transitioned, he won the gold medal in the women’s division 🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣 I can’t stop laughing!!!! Thank you! I needed this! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@mcfarmerson @TheSWPrincess Laurel Hubbard the weightlifter set records while lifting as a man, but didn't come close to medaling in the Olympics.

@brookelynn74 @TheSWPrincess Look at Lia Thomas, she says hahahhahahahahahahhahahaha🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Look at Lia Thomas, the swimmer. Before she started transitioning she was an elite men's swimmer. Her times decreased once she started her hormone therapy but she was still required to swim on the men's team until she had been on hormone therapy for the required amount of time. So much is made of her tying with Riley for 5th and very little is mentioned about the 4 cis women who beat them both.

@brookelynn74 @TheSWPrincess Thomas was ranked 65th in the 500 and 554th in the 200 when he was still a man. After he transitioned, he was ranked 1st in the 500 and 5th in the 200 in the women’s division. Hahahhahahahahahahhahah, thank you SOOOO much for bringing this up!!!!

Wait, so now you think simply playing a sport is the bar? Just simply being what you describe as an “elite athlete” is the only thing that should be measured? Placement doesn’t matter? Hahahahahahahaha Can you finally see the lengths that you have to go to in order to even stay in this argument?!? Just so you are aware, simply playing a sport is not a relative means of measurement. Good lord.

@mcfarmerson @TheSWPrincess If they competed in both then they were elite athletes for both. You do not get into either without being an elite athlete, no matter your gender.

@brookelynn74 @TheSWPrincess If these trans athletes you speak of, competed in the olympics and or NCAA in the mens division, transitioned, and then competed in the women’s division, how did their rankings compare?

We also have the real world proof as well. Until very recently trans athletes were allowed to compete in the Olympics and NCAA as well as other elite levels of sports and have not come anywhere close to anything resembling dominance. If they have an advantage why have we not seen that?

@brookelynn74 @TheSWPrincess I’m still waiting for the evidence that proves trans women have no athletic advantage over women, by the way.

For arguments sake, say you are right and that is the only reason for it. What does that have to do with trans athletes? There is no evidence that trans women have an athletic advantage over cis women after hormone therapy...and again I am only using those classifications for clarity in this convo.

Hahahahahahahahahah So because your silly “IT DOESN’T MATTER IF DOCTORS DON’T DIAGNOSE WHY MEN CAN’T GET PREGNANT, BECAUSE THEY DON’T DIAGNOSE WHY ALL WOMEN CAN’T GET PREGNANT” argument got destroyed (how could you not see the holes in that one, by the way?), now you have changed your stance. Now your argument is an opinion, that I put too much weight on womanhood being defined by motherhood?!?! Listen, this is an indefensible position that you have taken. You should have been able to see that from the beginning. If you want trans people to have their own division in sports, i’m all for that. I don’t hate trans people, or think they shouldn’t be exist. But women deserve rights. You can’t continue to let men play women’s sports, because it isn’t fair to WOMEN.

@mcfarmerson @bobblesyawn @TheSWPrincess I think you put too much weight on womanhood being defined by motherhood.

Only one of us claimed that “the science is in.” The only reason for you not posting, said “science” is because there is none. People aren’t stupid. No one reading this is going to think, “oh yeah, ole Russet Wolf13 definitely has the science to back up his claim, he just isn’t showing the science” You don’t have any proof obviously. You would have been DYING to show me the proof if you actually had it.

@mcfarmerson @psychodriver614 @TheSWPrincess It is in, you failing to provide sufficient evidence of your claim leads to automatic dismissal of said claim. That's how science works in the real world.

I am absolutely right. How in the hell can you possibly think that the reason for the WNBA and NBA coexisting is simply because of the timeframe of when they were established? Show me the evidence that shows that there is no athletic advantage that trans women have over women.