Melanie Weisner

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This cover is the obvious spot for Iran to TP

@NotSpewheb Just another peace loving humanitarian who only wants the best for people across the world 😍

Wouldn’t it be funny if someone fouls him so hard he breaks his neck and dies

This isn't the smoking gun you think it is, @JT_Media. Even if that was the case, which it absolutely isnt as Nic has said, it implies that the only reason Americans would ever care about "humanity" (the entire crux of the moral grandstanding for gaza) is if we pay for it. And no such person would ever admit that their moral conscience is conditional on money.,

@nic_carter It’s like you try to ignore the obvious. Americans protested what happened to Gaza because it was done with tens of billions of dollars of our tax money, in the name of supporting a questionable ally. You’re trying to warp reality to fit neatly into your worldview.

remarkable, genuinely remarkable to see the differential outrage in the West regarding the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents in Iran versus the war in Gaza. exposes something very evident about the left that they would prefer went unnoticed. it shows very clearly that western liberals do not reason on consequentialist or "aggregate harm" grounds, or by systematically applying the frameworks they claim to use (if Gaza was bad under our post-war humanitarian frameworks, surely systematic, targeted slaughter of innocents in a non-war context in Iran was worse) but rather based on whether a tragedy is politically exploitable or not. in order words, they filter harms through the lens of whether: a) it maps to a friend/enemy distinction that is interpretable to them; and b) it serves their domestic interests here in the US Gaza was an amazing opportunity for them, because the perceived aggressor was Israel and the Jews, and it gave them air cover for antisemitism and anti-Trump agitation at scale here in the US. meanwhile, Iran does little for them. To the extent liberals have an opinion on Iran, it's either indifference or, if they're a good little revolutionary, sympathy to the regime on post-colonial grounds ("deposed the evil colonialist Shah!"). the slaughter of innocents in Iran, to the American left, is a kind of natural disaster. sad, for sure, but nothing to be done about it. no political points to be scored. a little embarassing if anything, given how Obama coddled and enabled Iran. no domestic enemy to paint as responsible. Gaza, meanwhile, became something being done TO the left IN the USA. as such, it was a perfect storm. remember always that the valence a tragedy has among the american left has nothing to do with their self-proclaimed principles or any moral rubric applied consistently, and everything to do with whether the conflict can be processed through their own local friend/enemy filter, and whether it can be weaponized for domestic aims. any conservative watching carefully has noticed this already, but it's worth pointing out the obvious for the sake of the moderates.

No, the implication is not that all Palestinians are legitimate targets. That literally has nothing to do with anything I was saying. Appropriately characterizing those who want to kill you is not implying that. The implication is: listen when people tell you who they are. When Palestinian economic society is inextricable from being paid handsomely to slay Jews, when children’s tv shows are promoting martyrdom, when mothers far and wide express that their ultimate desire is for their children to die while killing Jews, when leadership over literal decades tell you the same thing: listen. Stop infantilizing Palestinians. There are obviously decent individuals but the majority do not want peace, do want a Judenfrei Palestine, and regardless of who “wants to partake in murder,” which is useless speculation and which no one could possibly say unless you could read minds, they do SUPPORT it, as a matter of polling data, and evangelize it, as a matter of public rhetoric. Why don’t you go through the links I sent, one by one, and actually watch them? See if you change your mind on anything. Actually read the words from the woman who was treated in Israeli hospitals then came back to blow up the children in them. Read how Palestinian society lauded her efforts. Read how the murderers who blew up buses full of kids are honored as heros in Gaza. Then perhaps we can have a conversation about who wants what

@melanieweisner @academic_la Because I don’t see the difference here. To phrase it in a different way: you think it’s a majority of Palestinians who want to kill all Jews or it’s a minority. You know what my position is but I’m still trying to figure out yours

The Jewish diaspora should declare its independence from Israel. Synagogues need to remove Israeli flags and stop hosting events that promote Israel. This symbolic move can reduce antisemitism and send a clear message to Israel that the diaspora won’t blindly support its actions.

You actually cannot, because we’re not talking about fringe lunatics here. I didn’t show you a video of randoms. I showed you an extensive compilation of quotes from MANY different leaders of state, children’s tv shows, news programs, field interviews. You didn’t respond to any of them, didn’t respond to horror show suicide bombing data showing why Israel must have strict border control, and just moved on to motte-and-bailey questions like “so you think everyone is evil” to try to bait me into dehumanization. It is not dehumanizing nor is it false to call out the alarming, widespread support for genocidal leadership (literal genocidal language in their charter) and the cultural glorification of suicide attacks. It is widely understood that the highest honor is martyrdom/to die while to killing Jews. There is no such equivalent in Israeli society, no glorification of death, no pay-to-slay programs. Find me an Israeli children’s show that promotes sacrificing yourself to kill the enemy, lmao. I don’t know how many times I have to say it. While obviously impossible to say if most people’s “goal” is to kill others, it is certainly much higher probability when the culture evangelizes this as glory. If you cannot understand what I’m saying there is no further way to explain it to you.

@melanieweisner @academic_la nobody is arguing that there aren’t any Palestinian who wants to kill Israeli Jews. You’ve posted videos proving what I’ve already conceded. These examples, don’t prove that this is what the overwhelming majority of Palestinian thrive to do. I can show you just as many videos of

@Gugugaga18786 @academic_la Life goal? Can’t possibly say. Highest cultural honor to be a martyr? Absolutely, from their own mouths. Now please address all the points I specifically asked you to address or this will be the end of the conversation .

@melanieweisner @academic_la You are still cowering: Do you think the life goal of the overwhelming majority of Palestinians is to kill Jews? Yes or no?

As far as genocidal, their elected government's charter is literally genocidal. While there havent been elections in many years, polling data shows that Hamas would win again, and the overwhelming majority of Palestinians support Hamas, as well as support the genocidal acts of Oct 7.

There is no cowering. I have been explicitly clear and cited firsthand testimony and data for you. The highest cultural honor= killing Jews (martyrdom) is what is being taught in an overwhelming majority of schools in the Palestinian territories. This isn't my opinion. It is fact. It is their self-declared highest cultural honor. Literally in UNRWA textbooks, on children's TV shows. Examine the data I already sent you before you come back to me telling me it's not true.

@AlanRamskill @caitoz lol

@melanieweisner @caitoz Unfortunately it also commits genocide of an indigenous people who are merely trying to defend their land! Your post is ridiculous! Genocide is the worst crime on the planet!

Zionists promote Islamophobia because convincing westerners to hate Muslims is easier than convincing them to love Israel. Support for Israel is a hard sell. On paper it's just a shitty, evil country full of shitty, evil people, and has no redeeming qualities as a state. Nobody can explain how it's an important ally in a way that makes sense; all the problems they claim it helps solve are problems Israel itself creates with the help of western backing. Unless you're a devout Jewish Zionist or Christian Zionist there's nothing about the modern state of Israel you'd naturally be inclined to support. Appealing to western racism, however, is much easier. We've got entire mainstream political factions whose whole platform is just grimacing in disgust at anyone who looks and acts a bit different. White supremacism runs deep, and westerners have been fighting and killing Muslims for many centuries, so there's plenty of cultural memory to draw on for this specific form of hatred. So they don't worry so much about explaining the positives about the state of Israel, focusing instead on fearmongering about the religion whose adherents tend to wind up on the receiving end of Israeli military violence. They can't convince us that Israel is good in and of itself, but they can convince many of us that it's good to drop military explosives on Muslims. Most of the Islamophobia you see in the west comes from Israel supporters and people who've been propagandized by Israel supporters. A small minority comes from extreme fringe rightists who hate both Muslims and Jews, but the majority is the product of western support for Israel and the west's warmongering in the middle east which Israel consistently plays a role in. That's why you'll see high-profile Israeli social media accounts fearmongering about the growing Muslim populations in Europe, for example. You wouldn't think it would be any of Israel's concern if there are a lot of Muslims in Belgium or whatever, but it is in Israel's political interests to keep westerners fearful and disdainful toward members of the Islamic faith. We're seeing more and more of this as Israel increasingly alienates western centrists and progressives, relying more and more heavily on support from the western right. As the narrative that a poor persecuted religious minority needs to have its own homeland loses traction with its intended audience, we're seeing it increasingly replaced with the narrative that them there Muslims need killin', yeehaw. Israel makes everything gross. It makes the world more violent, more sociopathic, and more hateful. The entire state is sustained by nonstop violence and hatred. It's a malignant tumor on the flesh of our species.

I haven't said anything about the people or governments of Iran or Saudi Arabia or the UAE. So stop putting words in my mouth. Take it up with whoever is arguing whatever those points are. You refuse to admit several things you've been factually incorrect about so I'm not sure what else there is to talk about. You literally said Palestinians are a large part of the Egyptian population and are trying to die on a sword of if I characterized the border policies of Egypt precisely enough. I said Egypt doesn't freely let Palestinians in. And they don't. Making rare exceptions for an extremely nominal % of the population isn't really what we were talking about. Neither country ever gave open passage for refugees, even pre-oct7 when Israel's restrictions were FAR lesser than Egypt's, and it's laughable that people think this should be allowed. North Korea doesn't allow South Korea to openly cross their border. Is South Korea an open air prison? Lol. No countries are required to allow another group, especially a genocidal one, to cross into their territory. The fact that this needs to be explained is alarming. To clarify since we seem to be missing some obvious critical thinking here: Again, all Palestinian children are not terrorists, obviously. However, they are being openly indoctrinated towards killing Jews. That needs to be understood. And recognized as the dangerous paradigm it is. Don't believe me? Listen to them yourselves. Al-Quds Al-Youm TV Interview with PIJ Mother (2022): "I always pray that I, your father, brothers, daughters, and sons… that all of you become martyrs for the sake of Allah... I will be happy if all my children are martyred." bit.ly/3Iw8DBU Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas) Event Honoring Mothers of Martyrs (2022): "By Allah, I have 17 children and 65 grandchildren... I will sacrifice them for the sake of Palestine, wholeheartedly and happily. They are the price for our homeland... Our homeland and our holy places are dearer to us than our children." bit.ly/4nZMKK7 Al-Aqsa TV Interview with Umm Osama (Wife of Hamas MP, 2013): She states: "Encouraging our children to kill themselves for Palestine is a mother's most glorious duty... The mother instills in her children the love of Jihad and martyrdom... I am constantly praying: ‘Allah, make the end of our days be in martyrdom.’ I pray for this even for my husband and my children." bit.ly/4gSESb3 Gaza Mother Losing Four Sons (2024): A Gazan mother cheers after her fourth son's death, shouting: "Praise Allah! Why am I cheering? Because my children are in Paradise... This is an honor for me!" She expresses willingness to sacrifice more for the cause. bit.ly/4nZIcU1 Al Jazeera Interview with Teens in Jenin Refugee Camp (2023): In a field report, a group of Palestinian kids from Jenin were asked what they aspire to be when they grow up. They responded in unison: "Martyrs" bit.ly/3WhCpxk PA TV Compilation of Child Interviews (2020): palwatch.org/page/18058 "Face to Face with West Bank Children Who Dream of Martyrdom" (2023): Interviews children in the West Bank who openly discuss aspiring to martyrdom as the greatest honor youtube.com/watch?v=zKZSk3… -Talal Nassar, Hamas Official: "The Palestinian voter will vote for those who sacrifices their own children, one after the other, as martyrs for the sake of Allah" (2/8/21, Qanat TV) -Rajaa Al-Halabi, Head of Hamas Women's Movement: "Most kindergartens belong to our sisters in Hamas. Children are raised from a young age on this culture — 'Allah is our goal,' From infancy, children are nurtured to love jihad, to want to meet Allah, and to love fighting the enemy." (12/12/22, Al-Aqsa TV) Umm Osama, Wife of Hamas MP: “Encouraging our children to kill themselves for Palestine is a mother's most glorious duty.” "[A Palestinian woman] instills in her children the love of Jihad and martyrdom for the sake of Allah. If every mother were to prevent her son from waging Jihad for the sake of Allah, who would wage Jihad?" (2013 interview, Al-Aqsa TV) Yahya Sinwar: "We decided to turn [...] the bodies of our women and children into a dam blocking the collapse in Arab reality. [We use] the sacrifice of [our] children as an offering for Jerusalem and the Right of Return" (5/16/18 Al-Jazeera TV) Ismail Haniyeh: "The blood of the women, children and elderly […] we are the ones who need this blood, so it awakens within us the revolutionary spirit." (10/26/23 speech, Al-Mayadeen) Unless you plan on addressing any of these points directly, or the claims you've already made that are false, this will be my last reply.

@melanieweisner @academic_la Would support and defend them like your supporting and doing apologetics and propaganda for the brutal dictators in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, Jordan…

@JuanitaCalamid2 @caitoz oh, and dismantling the entire Arab world too, since that too is colonialism of the highest order.

@melanieweisner @caitoz Israel should (and will, as any other colonial regime) be dismantled. And quickly, for their own good.

@JuanitaCalamid2 @caitoz good luck "dismantling" the entire western world.

I'd agree with you about the occupation in theory, but unfortunately the data doesnt support that. Israel fully left Gaza in 2005, with plans in place to withdraw from the northern WB, and got suicide bombings and rockets in return. So no, I don't naively believe that withdrawal will lead to peace. Because there is no acceptance of Israel, period. Palestinian raison d'être is the destruction of Israel, not peace. They do not want two states. They want one, Judenfrei state. Don't believe me? Listen to it from their own mouths: youtube.com/watch?v=Ry6kpY… youtu.be/cJkxOF9QqEk?si… youtube.com/watch?v=kbPK7N…

@melanieweisner @academic_la Bury the hatchet? The only way to ever get peace is obviously for Israel to completely leave Palestinian territories. But acknowledge the fact that gov of Israel’s goal is remove Arabs from those territories and annex them? Can you do that ?

@Gugugaga18786 @academic_la Additionally, that is incorrect. They do not have a large Palestinian population and you should fact check such claims. Palestinians make up 0.09% of the Egyptian population. Smaller even than the USA, which is saying something.

@melanieweisner @academic_la Ok so you do view every Palestinian, including children as a terrorist? Also, you claimed Egypt didn’t let Palestinians in, they have a large Palestinian population and like I said, they’ve been letting children in from Gaza. Could you acknowledge you made a false claim? And

Chat GPT is way too obvious in these answers so this will be my last reply. Hint: "x isnt ___, it's ___" is the dead giveaway. Sure the ancient kingdom doesnt justify modern dispossession. Unfortunate reality. is that people are dispossessed in conflict all the time. But no one seems to mind in any other country but Israel. People move on in every other conflict. Helpfully, Jews have three titles to the land--as the original indigineity is only one claim, and probably the weakest. They also purchased land legally over a century and were given the nation diplomatically. They also won the land decisively over three wars meant to settle their erasure. There are no do-overs in wars. You make your choices and you live with them. In retrospect, they shouldn't have tried to slaughter their neighbors along with 5 Arab armies when Israel declared independence. The ones who didn't aren't refugees. They're citizens of Israel today with one of the highest standards of living in the Arab world, surpassing life expectancy of even the gulf states.

@melanieweisner @Partisan_12 Again my point, an ancient kingdom from 3000 years ago does not justify modern dispossession. Zionism is a political project, not Judaism or. Religion. Palestinians of all Abrahamic faiths have paid the price as if it. Critiquing that isn’t bigotry .. it’s historical reality.

Dr. Rahmeh Aladwan: “I don't believe Jews have a homeland in Palestine. Just because their holy scriptures say so, I’m not Jewish, & neither is 99.8% of humanity. They can believe it, but that doesn’t give them the right to steal my grandmother’s land or Genocide us.”

Obviously every Palestinian child is not a terrorist, and no one said they were. They are, however, as a matter of literal fact, being indoctrinated to view slaughtering Jews as the highest honor they can have. This is well documented from endless quotes from leadership to literal pages in UNRWA textbooks. Please acknowledge that. Egypt does not allow border crossing freely, just like no nation would. Yes, they facilitate exit for a small percentage of Palestinians. Prior to October 7, the genocidal event towards Israel, Israel let Palestinians cross far more freely than Egypt. ~18,500 Gazans per day vs Egypt's ~500 per day. Did you not know? That's a ratio of 37-1. Please acknowledge that. No comment on the government of dictators who "do not represent them." You're operating on a what-if basis for democracy in non-democratic ethnostates. Impossible to make this claim.

@melanieweisner @academic_la Governed by dictators who do not represent them. Can you acknowledge this as well?

It is clear to me that 99.9% of people arguing Palestinian propaganda has zero knowledge of history. There was no "erasing" of Palestinian Jews. Every single Jew in Palestine identified as a Palestinian prior to declaring independence in 1948. All had Palestinian passports. Including Golda Meir. Please stop telling another minority group what is or isnt "good" for their religion. It's very simply bigotry. Jews dont need to justify self-determination to you, but as a group have been yearning to return to their ancestral homeland for literal millennia, from which they were ethnically cleansed. Their repatriation to the land is the literal definition of decolonization.

@melanieweisner @Partisan_12 Erasing Palestinian Jews is Jewish plurality. Which Israel did in 1948. Israel is the true definition of anti Semitic and the political project is very harmful to the religion.

@Gugugaga18786 @academic_la The accusation has existed in some form since 1948, despite the Palestinian population quintupling since then. The accusation is obviously accompanying the first time war has been live-streamed. This question is not worth discussing.

@melanieweisner @academic_la You didn’t answer the 1st question. Before the recent destruction of Gaza, the IDF has been "mowing the lawn" every few years and they were not accused of genocide so we’ve decided out of the blue, for no reason other than antisemitism, to accuse them of genocide this time?

Pardon me. Yes Israel controls airspace and waters, although not all land boarders, in order to prevent arms being delivered from Iran that are used solely to harm Israeli civilians. It didn't used to be this way. Gaza had its own airport, a lot of freedom to travel into Israel. They continually proved to exploit these freedoms in order to slaughter their neighbors. So more protective measures had to be taken. After Israel withdrew all of its own civilians in 2005, and its entire military force, ending the occupation there, there was a lot of hope within the Israeli public that Gaza would now, with this freedom and autonomy, build itself into a great peaceful city with travel and tourism between it and Israel. Instead they got more suicide bombings and more rockets. Would love to hear what you think Israel should have done instead.

@melanieweisner @academic_la You didn’t answer the 2nd question either. You just responded with more questions. Israel also controls Gaza’s airspace and territorial waters. These are not part of Israel’s territories so actually, they’re not simply controlling their borders as you dishonestly claim. And Egypt

@Gugugaga18786 @academic_la They do. In fact, they treat them in Israeli hospitals. And some of them, despite this, come back to suicide bomb Israelis. Ready to change your mind after reading the below? She's one of many.

@melanieweisner @academic_la Btw, Egypt still lets in a certain number of Gazans through their borders like wounded children. Why isn’t Israel doing that if they care so much about civilians?