Dajean Bell
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Dajean Bell
@metalmutt13
I play guitar for The Exiled Martyr, and I read comic books.
Phoenix, Arizona Katılım Şubat 2011
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@SymplyTonbra It's a plot point in the show. Discussed in dialogue
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Why didn't the Velaryons care that Rhaenyra's sons weren't fathered by Laenor?
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@danymeria They changed it in the show in book canon she has black hair. Genetically Valareyon children have silver features.
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@peter_lingua_ @Uc_heyy02 She dies. In the book and show canon. So...her living changes the history of the entire world. Meaning certain characters may not be born and other historical events don't happen. If this is just fan fiction at this point don't say it's based on grrms works because it isn't.
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Now that House of the Dragon has proven it’s willing to make major changes from Fire & Blood, I have one request:
Let Rhaenyra survive.
This lady deserves the throne because watching her live with everything she’s lost would be far more interesting than watching her die.
Would that make the ending better or completely ruin the story?
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@Uc_heyy02 Literally doesn't make sense if she lives...then future kings have to change to queens and they have to explain how Aegon IV inherited the throne and caused the blackfyre rebellions. She has to die for the story to make sense unless hotd takes place in an AU
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@Uc_heyy02 It literally breaks the canon of the series. So no she has to die
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@bigbrownson She is the rider of dreamfyre and has been since she was a child. The show just cut her bond for some reason. She and Aegon II were supposed to crowned together and fly their dragons but instead we got that dumb Rhaenys scene
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Princess Helaena was the only Targaryen who actually deserved a dragon and she never even rode one.
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@joshua_j28051 I see what you're trying to get at but my point is here why would they use rope with tensile strength that can be that easily cut especially if they're trying to take down dragons where they fought against dragons and the step Stones already
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@lolous29 @paloma_datgirl Wrong Aegon. Dragonbane is Aegon III, then Daeron I, Baelor I and then Viserys II and then finally Aegon IV
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@paloma_datgirl Rhaenyra is chased out of kings landing. Aegon reunited with sunfyre kills grey ghost. Fights and kills moondancer. Takes over dragonstone and feeds rhaenyra to sunfyre. Sits the throne and is poisoned by Corlys and Larys
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@bryndensraven Rhaena had an easy plot. The targ that studies politics and learns the game. So she hatches morning at the end of the series but show power isn't just swords and dragon fire.
It's literally right there especially under Jeyne Arryn teaching.
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2 things true at the same time:
1. nettles & rhaena are not interchangeable. condals reasonings for merge are PURE ASS. It effectively ends any future adaptations of Regency.
2. rhaena is a nothingburger character in Dance. Does nothing. you dont need to make up things.
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@RobbyApologist I mean you can still do all of that but actually let him shine during season 2 so his loss is more impactful to others. Ie Corlys, Addam, Alyn, Baela, Aegon III they have all the pieces for great emotional writing. But they always veer off.
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oooof,
actually he died after stepping into danger by defending baela , becoming sheepsteelers target before switching to evasion to spare rhaena.
yall can argue his reasons for being in the battle, but lets not act like he didn't get killed due to choosing to avoid attacking sheepsteeler so not to hurt rhaena
his death came from protecting those he cared about, a noble end for a noble heir
🏛 𝐒𝐭𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧 🏛@nonregemesse
In the book he dies trying to save his little brothers. In House of the Dragon he just dies. Another moment lessened due to a pointless deviation.
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@RedTeamReview Youre right. But we miss out on her learning the political game from lady Arryn. It could be an interesting line to explore plus end with her getting morning. It's nice and bittersweet
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I've spoken on this before where Rhaena had a storyline they didn't give enough weight to where Daemon ignores her because she didn't bond with a dragon
You can see hints of it in the Season 1 finale when Daemon talks about riderless dragons on dragonstone and she looks at him
westerosies@westerosies
#HouseOfTheDragon Showrunner Ryan Condal explains why Rhaena took over the storyline originally held by Nettles in the source material. 🐉 “It just felt to us that because again, this story is told in point of view, that it felt more apt as this is a family story to where we had the opportunity to involve one of the family members in the storyline. And because Rhaena has been set up since season 1 as the member of this family wdoesn’t have a dragon and basically her sole identity is the Targaryen kid wdoesn’t have a dragon, it felt like that was a character that we had already set this long runway for that it could be very satisfying for the TV audience that didn’t have an experience with the book at all to see that character claim a dragon and then in a very, I think, Game of Thrones and Westerosian kind of way, to reap the consequences of having her wish come true. It’s a very monkey’s paw kind of moment for Rhaena. She gets her great wish and it becomes her greatest nightmare.” (za.ign.com/game-of-throne…)
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@Dozzabrun Not both brothers but at least Viserys and that Jace led the assault. They undermined all his actual king like actions in season 2 or gave them to other characters
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Fave part of HOTD discourse this week is the entirely false claim that Jace was somehow wronged because they cut him trying to rescue his (half) brothers from the Triarchy fleet - a thing which not only absolutely never happened in the book but literally could not happen
Cal@wyattyhalpert
The way people discuss this show is nuts. In what world would a Queensguard ignore her and follow her son's orders instead? Maybe a relentlessly patriarchal one this show is about and which Rhaenyra explicitly laments minutes after this? Close some tabs and you'll spot this stuff
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@manafsinare @onlypeluayo The best part about this is you're rocking a daemon pfp. And he and caraxes don't die together either
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Did anyone else notice this?
The second Vermax fell into the sea, Jace immediately unbuckled himself and tried to escape. So much for the blood of the dragon.
Would Daemon, Aemond, or Rhaenys have abandoned their dragons like that?
He died Velaryon.
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@manafsinare Brain dead take. He was supposed to not try and survive to continue fighting ?! Like wtf
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@ThronesUpdates "it's a family story"
-shoehorning Daeron in season 3
-cutting Maelor
-not doing more scenes with Helaena and her family
-Jace and the Hull Brothers
-Aegon III and Viserys II being cut from the gullet..
But yeah sure
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‘House of the Dragon’ showrunner Ryan Condal on why Rhaena replaced the book character Nettles' storyline on the show
“It just felt to us that because again, this story is told in point of view, that it felt more apt as this is a family story to where we had the opportunity to involve one of the family members in the storyline.
And because Rhaena has been set up since season 1 as the member of this family who doesn't have a dragon and basically her sole identity is the Targaryen kid who doesn't have a dragon, it felt like that was a character that we had already set this long runway for that it could be very satisfying for the TV audience that didn't have an experience with the book at all to see that character claim a dragon and then in a very, I think, Game of Thrones and Westerosian kind of way, to reap the consequences of having her wish come true. It's a very monkey's paw kind of moment for Rhaena. She gets her great wish and it becomes her greatest nightmare.”
(via: za.ign.com/game-of-throne…)
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@WeThrones Im one of the few who liked fire and blood tbh. Jace was one of my favorites and they robbed his character of all his good story bits
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Let's not pretend anyone was sad reading Fire and Blood.
A@NerdInWhileLoop
His death wasn't that sad it was in Fire&Blood cuz of how stupid they changed it from the book Instead of showing us how Jace risked his life to save his little brothers, we got this blaming Rhaena and Sheepstealer They suck at writing and i feel sad for George seeing his shit
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@ThisGrayArea She should've studied under Jeyne Arryn and be a political force and get morning at the end of the dance ya know like the book. Not this house of accidents bs
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However Rhaena doesn’t need to be a dragon rider to serve her family.. Rhaena is the feminine picture perfect princess that wins every damn lord of the east. Her nature is why she is chosen as Aegon’s heir over Baela…we definitely can’t say that after Gullet
westerosies@westerosies
#HouseOfTheDragon Showrunner Ryan Condal explains why Rhaena took over the storyline originally held by Nettles in the source material. 🐉 “It just felt to us that because again, this story is told in point of view, that it felt more apt as this is a family story to where we had the opportunity to involve one of the family members in the storyline. And because Rhaena has been set up since season 1 as the member of this family wdoesn’t have a dragon and basically her sole identity is the Targaryen kid wdoesn’t have a dragon, it felt like that was a character that we had already set this long runway for that it could be very satisfying for the TV audience that didn’t have an experience with the book at all to see that character claim a dragon and then in a very, I think, Game of Thrones and Westerosian kind of way, to reap the consequences of having her wish come true. It’s a very monkey’s paw kind of moment for Rhaena. She gets her great wish and it becomes her greatest nightmare.” (za.ign.com/game-of-throne…)
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