Michael Mignano

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Michael Mignano

@mignano

General Partner @USV. Co-Founder Anchor (acquired by Spotify) and @OboeLabs.

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Michael Mignano
Michael Mignano@mignano·
Fred Wilson is one of the greatest VCs of all time. He is also my new partner at @USV and I'm lucky to say that. We've known each other for years, but becoming partners felt like a reason to get to know him even better. So a few weeks ago, we walked around Union Square and caught up about what @fredwilson has learned over nearly 40 years of VC, how AI may be making the profession obsolete, how to build an investment thesis, why he believes the Knicks will win the NBA title this year, and a few of his long held grudges. Here's a video of that conversation, set at Union Square, Madman Espresso, the USV office, and Leon's on Broadway. Chapters: 3:22 - That time Fred wrecked Mike on Twitter 6:01 - Pre-Internet VC in NYC 9:50 - Early Internet Investing and Raising for Flatiron Partners 11:59 - The Dot-com Crash Killed Fred’s First Firm 14:28 - Fred’s Grudge Against Coffee Shop 16:35 - How to Pick the Right Team at Right Time 18:28 - AVC blog, Gawker’s Nick Denton, TypePad.com 20:44 - Jim Kramer invented Tweeting 21:46 - Why Fred Bet on Twitter Early 23:39 - Building Agents on Claude Code and Tasklet 26:20 - Claude Mythos and Doomerism 27:27 - The Original USV Thesis 29:19 - Network Effects and Brad’s Thesis 31:29 - Coinbase: Thesis, Investment, Outcome 33:18 - Investing in Decentralized AI 34:59 - Open Source AI 36:55 - AI Kill Zone: Legal AI is Dead, Energy Investments 42:37 - USV Agents Will Replace Its Partners 47:00 - Are VC’s building themselves out of a job? 48:30 - Leon’s, NYC’s New Tech Watering Hole 50:52 - Generative Art 53:18 - SOLIENNE: AI Artist trained by Kristi Coronado 54:25 - What About AI Scares Fred 55:40 - Societal Backlash to AI 58:10 - Advice to Early Career VCs: There’s More Risk in Not Doing Deals 1:00:48 - Fred’s Biggest Regrets: Saying No Because of Price 1:04:17 - Fred’s Bold Prediction for the Knicks and the Mets
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Michael Mignano
Michael Mignano@mignano·
I have been vibe investing in the public markets for a few months now and it turns out AI is very good at picking stocks.
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Andy Scott
Andy Scott@AndyJScott·
@mignano You just asking it in a chat for recommendations or built a different kind of tool?
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Alana Levin
Alana Levin@AlanaDLevin·
@mignano What are the best stocks it's picked so far (and its short thesis for each)?
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Elijah@PossibltyResult·
Elijah@PossibltyResult

Three catalysts I have in mind for the growth of callable models. Each increases the need for intelligent routing, but perhaps more importantly (and valuably) open harnesses : 1) personalized agents that hold private information (what's better to call for insight on XYZ, opus 4.7 or opus 4.7 wrapped in context with private info from the worlds foremost expert on XYZ) 2) domain-specific models like Cursor's Composer 2 who's value prop isn't beating performance but being on-par with performance at a cheaper cost. as token spends become a larger and larger portion of expenses for businesses, the value from routing to smaller, dedicated models with on-par performance will grow with it 3) domain-specific models who's value prop is being more performant. we see these in domains with sufficiently idiosyncratic logical structures / input modalities (bio, drug discovery, physics,...) In order to stay at the frontier, companies will want tools that bridge context across these expert models But I don't think value accrues to routers. The most successful router of all time, Google, which routes users to their desired webpages, is notably not just a router. It's also a "harness" in some sense, that the user directly interacts with. The router is just the algorithm that's called after the user's interaction, in some sense it's just an API that serves as middleware. The harness logs info about the users preferences (time staying on the site, what link they clicked, whether they returned for another similar search...). The harness then coordinates any updates to the router's config next time around. As time went on, Google relied less and less on the core routing algorithm, PageRank, and more and more on ML algos trained on the user feedback logged. The harness, which is the point of contact for the user, controls the user feedback, and so it controls the power to verticalize into routing (and maybe even further into the model). This was how cursor played out. It started as a code-specific harness (agentic IDE), it introduced routing (auto), and eventually trained it's own model (composer 2). This evolution was uniquely enabled by it's positioning in the line of user feedback.

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BrenJ
BrenJ@azzabazazz·
@mignano IMHO routing will be achieved by task-based agentic bounty markets dynamically repricing in near real time. Needs High Throughput Blockchain to work but I know some MIT media lab affiliated wunderkinds cooking it up atop @_patrickogrady’s @commonwarexyz
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YB@yb_effect·
@mignano yep, i think incentives are better aligned. and it can get more interesting if there's "agent insurance" or "agent taxes" as well that can be incorporated at more micropayment scales as well
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Michael Mignano@mignano·
@yb_effect yea i think the most obvious way is to charge a margin on the tokens but that feels like not a great place to be. i like the idea of rewarding performance somehow and attaching revenue to that.
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YB@yb_effect·
reminds me of the classic crypto chain routing dilemma / DEX aggregators. but of course there's just a lot more variability in the tasks for general agents. if models do continue to commoditize AND people are okay with non-frontier models for the long tail of tasks, then I think the most interesting thing to think about is how the model routers (agent orchestrators or whatever you want to call them) get paid. my guess is a hybrid of how many tokens each intent cost as well as how successful the task was done (time, accuracy, efficiency, etc). this is great because now most people don't have to worry about subscriptions and can simply monitor the allowances we're giving. forget normal consumers, most people in tech have stopped trying to keep up with all the OS models out there. i myself have subscriptions to gpt, claude, and grok and already feel overwhelmed
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Michael Mignano@mignano·
@mattcynamon it depends. in some areas, building your own model gives you massive cost advantages with respect to training and inference. and then over time, you get user preference data that gives you a very strong model advantage as you scale.
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