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chris

chris

@mrmag314

PhD in Math. Trying to make sense of things.

Katılım Şubat 2010
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Edge Of Power@edge_of_power·
‼️‼️ Bessent: We see American watermarks on Chinese models It's the strongest indicator so far that the ban/restrictions are closer
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chris@mrmag314·
@edge_of_power I mean did they go from 0% to 9% overnight? This is crazy. This would explain the meteoric rise from $80 to $300 actually. Now that the largest bidder allocated now. What happens to the stock?
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Edge Of Power@edge_of_power·
$NVDA owns 9% of $NBIS - let it sink in. It’s the biggest shareholder except prolly Volozh and the likes. I won’t be shocked if $NVDA buys it and make its official cloud. Otherwise what’s the point for this deal? This is pure circular financing designed to sell as many chips as possible. NVDA is building its own cloud and buying stakes in companies so they can avoid constantly running to the ATM. Or, in the end, $NVDA will just buy NBIS and develop its own cloud without the shady structures. Anyway, all NeoClouds are poor things begging for money.
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Pepe Maltese@pepe_maltese·
I nearly missed the most important part of todays $IREN release because it wasn't the $2.8B headline. About 85% of the $4B ARR target is now contracted, but recent customers are also prepaying about 45% of the GPU capex. Demand is financing the build before the servers earn a dollar and that is a huge help. The balance sheet has more help, contracted pricing is strengthening, and the customer base is broadening beyond Microsoft and NVIDIA.
IREN@IREN_Ltd

IREN has signed $2.8bn in new multi-year AI Cloud services contracts with leading AI developers and raised its year-end 2026 AI Cloud ARR target from $3.7bn to over $4.0bn. “Our vertically integrated AI Cloud platform is scaling at pace. In the past 12 months we have expanded from approximately 3MW of self-built AI Cloud capacity to 480MW being delivered this year, with 1.2GW targeted for 2027, broadening our customer base across hyperscalers, enterprises and AI developers.” “We are proud to support leading companies building frontier applications across design, physical AI and robotics, generative media, AI search and model development.” - @danroberts0101 Press release: iren.gcs-web.com/static-files/d…

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chris@mrmag314·
@edge_of_power Busy accruing other pointless companies and issues rewards in their own stock. All that takes time you know.
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Edge Of Power@edge_of_power·
‼️ $HUT it has signed a second 15-year lease worth $9.8 billion with an existing investment-grade customer, fully commercializing its 1-gigawatt Beacon Point campus in Texas. I don’t even wanna ask why $IREN and Dan Beaver left behind again. I don’t even understand why these slackers even exist and what they do. If they don’t do deals what’s the point? Thoughts?
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chris@mrmag314·
@enzoythefuture What makes you think it's not priced in. Literally everyone knows this
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Enzo@enzoythefuture·
$IREN 의 계약 발표에 이어서 $MSFT 와의 H1 핸드 오프 발표도 기다리고 있습니다. 만약 그렇게 된다면, 최고의 한 주일 수도 있겠네요.
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chris@mrmag314·
@edge_of_power Prepayments mean less dilution. I am all for that
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Edge Of Power@edge_of_power·
‼️ $IREN has raised its year-end Al Cloud ARR target from $3.7bn to more than $4bn, of which approximately 85% is now under contract following new multi-year cloud services contracts with leading Al developers representing $2.8bn in total contract value. IREN's customer base now includes Microsott, NVIDIA, Perplexity, Figure Al, Together Al, Fluidstack, Fireworks Al, Fal Al, Hume Al, and a new leading Al developer, across both bare metal and managed cloud services. Contracted pricing continues to strengthen. Recent contracts also include customer prepayments representing approximately 45% of the associated GPU capital expenditure. Across the portfolio, IREN's customer contracts have a weighted average term of approximately 4 years. It’s the second small deal for $IREN - prolly big prepayment remains one of the conditions together with higher prices. They call it “selective”
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chris@mrmag314·
@Tsuff101 And that's all at $2B market cap???? Sorry @Tsuff101 what am I missing here? Why is BTDR so undervalued? Are there any risks to the business model or the CEO is bad???
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chris@mrmag314·
@Tsuff101 I didn't know that BTDR is running open source Chinese LLMs and selling tokens. In fact, this is what IREN is dreaming of doing by making stupid acquisitions. I am surprised by BTDR. I will need to study them more, but looks already very promising. bitdeer.ai/en/pricing/ai-…
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chris@mrmag314·
@edge_of_power It's a mystery to me when it comes to IREN deals. They seem to be not announcing any.
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Edge Of Power@edge_of_power·
@mrmag314 Oracle seems to be out of one data centre for two more years. Why didn’t anyone come to Iren when it comes to energy? A mystery to me
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chris@mrmag314·
@edge_of_power @BitcoinAIGuy @bitcoinbutcher1 Bro, a good question. But think bigger. Nothing literally prevents IREN to build a DC and start serving all these open source models. If IREN IT dept can install Kimi K3 open weights model (big "IF") they can start making money on tokens WITHOUT a deal.
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chris@mrmag314·
@FransBakker9812 @AlexfromBabylon Bro, asset light means you are spreading the risk of your GPU becoming obsolete much quicker that you expect by letting others own the GPU and you owning the rest. Both IREN and NBIS have the potential to win in the long run. What's the point?
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Frans Bakker@FransBakker9812·
Isn't the weakest link in OS the power? I mean, Kimi K3 is completely drained from compute, that's why it's performing like it's broken right now. It's not breaking anything except for itself, if they can't get the compute to actually serve the inference needs. And how do you run compute? Isn't $NBIS accepting defeat in vertical integration, by trying to tap into asset-light now? Thus, why would you own the company that is already running out of gas now, where gas is the only real differentiator between a long durable business of compute, and open source/weight models running rampant?
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Alexander@AlexfromBabylon·
$NBIS That’s why you need to own Nebius. They shine exactly in this environment!
Stock Talk@stocktalkweekly

China's new frontier AI lab 'Moonshot' released its flagship 'Kimi K3' model today, which is initially benchmarking as competitive with Anthropic, OpenAI & xAI's newest models. 'Moonshot' is valued at just $31.5 billion. Anthropic & OpenAI are prospectively being valued north of $1 trillion, each... For those who are wondering why this rattled AI-related markets today, even in spite of a massive unwind over the past month, the logic is straightforward: - Hundreds of billions of dollars of capex & spending commitments are intimately tied to the U.S. frontier labs (Anthropic, OpenAI & xAI namely) - Capex has been the lifeblood of the AI trade. The U.S. semiconductor complex and the 2nd order datacenter buildout beneficiaries, including neoclouds & power companies & construction companies and many others at the periphery, have seen their stocks rerate higher on the anticipation that this capex will flow to their top & bottom lines. - Cheap, but competitive, Chinese models trained at a fraction of the cost of their U.S. peer-models, produced by firms who are valued at a fraction of their U.S. peers, who are offering usage/tokens at a fraction of the cost, pose the risk of "commoditization of intelligence". While this is certainly a tailwind for the proliferation of AI usage across industries, it poses a risk to the U.S. model of spending & committing massive amounts of capital to train & deploy new AI models. - If open-weight, cheaper, competitive models lead to significant compression in the pricing power for U.S. frontier labs, what impact does this have on the enormous spending commitments they have made in the near-future, and what 2nd order impacts does that have on the companies that are due to receive, benefit from, or deploy that capex? - As a hedge to this argument, it is also very true that increased usage of AI will require even more spending on inference capacity (Kimi K3 is a very big model at 2-3 trillion parameters, the biggest to ever come out of China), which could offset some of the compute-related risk in the training portion of this equation. The question is how does the calculus change if the training front-end of this equation has to be reworked entirely. It may also plant seeds for the conversation of improving inference efficiency through innovation (note that the efficiency through innovation conversation had already begun to emerge on an entirely different front, with memory stocks, several weeks ago). - When we are in momentum-driven periods with inordinate amounts of spending -- spending that is beginning to jeopardize the profitability of the most valuable companies in history, sometimes all it takes is a small seed of doubt to change the expectations & dynamics & internal balance-sheet considerations, and that seed of doubt can have domino effects. - While eerily similar to 'Deepseek', that model was not as competitive, and also that conversation happened at a time when Nvidia was the lifeblood of the AI trade, and the real question at the time was moreso whether or not they were using Nvidia's most cutting-edge chips, and had little to do with the commoditization of intelligence issue. Shortly after the "Deepseek moment", tariffs emerged and overshadowed it as a much more real & present threat to the markets & the economy. We moved on rather quickly, and to an extent, began whistling past the graveyard, proverbially speaking. To be abundantly clear before the AI bulls unleash on me in the comments: I'm not an AI bear, at all. I've been long AI stocks for almost the entirety of the past 3 years. I am still long many of them. This is just legitimate food for thought about the capital-equation for the U.S. AI industry. Digestion is warranted. I'm still navigating this issue, and I'm more than happy to hear & debate counterpoints on the implications and possibilities from any & all.

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chris@mrmag314·
@bakkermichiel Maybe distillation was a psyop by Anthropic to pump their valuation?
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Michiel Bakker@bakkermichiel·
Can someone explain me how the new Kimi can be so insanely good? The story has been "chinese labs have much less compute but they still stay close to the frontier through distillation". These results seem impossible to explain through distillation alone.
Kimi.ai@Kimi_Moonshot

Introducing Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence 🔹 2.8 Trillion Parameters, 1 Million Context, Native Multimodal 🔹 Kimi Delta Attention enables up to 6.3x faster decoding in million-token contexts 🔹 Attention Residuals deliver ~25% higher training efficiency at <2% additional cost 🔹 Built for long-horizon agentic coding and self-evolving workflows Kimi K3 is now live on on Kimi.com, Kimi Work, Kimi Code, and the Kimi API. Open Weights by July 27, 2026. 🔗 API: platform.kimi.ai 🔗 Tech blog: kimi.com/blog/kimi-k3

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