Martin Collins

Update: On April 29, 2026, I emailed former AARO Deputy Director Tim Phillips copies of the conflicting statements regarding a purported Sean Kirkpatrick-Tim Gallaudet meeting in Kirkpatrick's AARO office. Phillips responded, "Sean’s version of the event is true, believe the meeting was in 2023." Phillips also told me he had been present for that face-to-face meeting. I also queried Kirkpatrick regarding the conflicting claims about a face-to-face meeting in his office at AARO (which was a SCIF) with Gallaudet. Kirkpatrick's response appears in the graphic below.

"[UFO Disclosure will] be a little uncomfortable. There'll be some truths that [will] be a hard pill to swallow." ~Grusch New David Grusch: "There's truly anonymous signatures in the skies [and] the U.S. government understands it represents a form of sentient, non-human intelligence. I know that sounds very Star Trek, a la, you know, Gene Roddenberry and Rod's dad's Sci-Fi series, but it is true. "And I want, you know, the American public to be comforted that the Universe is teeming with life, it seems, and readily able to be explored. And the U.S. government does have a lot of information that I think will inspire Gen Alpha and Gen Z and the American populace at large. And it will be a new era. "It'll be a little uncomfortable. There'll be some truths that [will] be a hard pill to swallow, but I think it's, ultimately, a good thing to get this out there. And I think the people of the world and the American public will be very happy to understand their place in the Universe, so to speak. Without sounding too much like Carl Sagan."