Nate Elgin

Yesterday was a milestone day in my life, one that I will not soon forget. Thank you, @DallasSeminary, for the opportunity to preach during Senior Preaching Week. It was a tremendous and humbling honor. Christ be exalted! voice.dts.edu/chapel/senior-…

@idealpolitic Yeah, I agree that it would be different, because a celebration of pride does not violate freedom to choose a gaming system.

@nateelgin i know you’re trying to do this whole “reasonable, rational conservative” schtick, but you miss the point that what they did is intentionally inflammatory. can we agree that the situation would be way different if a player had put like, the XBOX logo on his pride hat?

If @MLB had a Christianity night and all players were required to wear crosses, people would lose their minds and want to opt out. Why can't Christians opt out of pride nights?

@BenCampb_ I don't think it's that simple. The choices are: 1) opt out 2) participate 3) exercise their "right to preach their faith" on pride night and be subject to future punishment from the league and social commentary from sports journalists about how they're intolerant.

It's because most of these players exercise their right to preach their faith on the one day that is designed for the celebration of pride. They aren't told to keep their faith out of interviews when they thank God It's not "participate or be punished" if they can opt out

It bothers me that the league has warned players that this type of behavior could be punished going forward. While the rule allows for opting out, the reality is “participate or keep quiet, or face penalties.” So, the reality is as close to a requirement w/o saying it out loud.

This exploded. Let me say this: In haste to speak (which isn’t Godly), I didn’t think about the fact that players can opt out and some do. That (and I) was wrong. I own that. A better question should have been, “Why can’t Christians stand up for their faith on pride nights?”

@byoungblood27 @DemonFly666 @MLB You guys sure do care a lot about my diet.

@DemonFly666 @nateelgin @MLB I’m sure they’d love to tbh conservative outrage is just projection and self loathing because they are gay 😆

@Dayton5454 Hello there. I'm a never Trumper, my guy. Please don't pretend you have me figured out. Blessings!

MAGA will always revolt against attempts at inclusiveness. This is close to the heart of the problems in America. One group wants to be open to all and the other simply wants only what it likes. Democracy vs Fascism.

@richa340 @richi_mil @MLB As long as you continue to pretend that being warned about not falling in line or staying quiet acceptable.

@nateelgin @richi_mil @MLB The purpose of the message is to show their objection to a specific group of people. How is that not hateful? Please, continue to pretend you’re completely clueless about the intent behind the messages. And ignore the fact that the messages themselves are a rules violation

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@richa340 @richi_mil @MLB I could understand if they cited verses specifically about sexuality like Leviticus 18 or Romans 1, but the passage referenced is about the symbolism of the rainbow and it's importance to Christianity. Why is that hateful in your mind?

@nateelgin @richi_mil @MLB If you protest by spreading hate, yes. If this was about professing their faith or spreading a message, then they would add those messages to their hats every game. But they don’t. This was about sending a specific message to a specific group. That makes you the bad guy

@Mark4Libertas @MLB Is all protesting antagonistic?

@nateelgin @MLB The Cardinals do a couple of those a year. These guys didn’t opt out, they chose to antagonize.

@richa340 @richi_mil @MLB Is anyone who protests a bad person?

@nateelgin @richi_mil @MLB That’s because they are the bad guys. They are choosing to actively spread hate messages. They could choose to opt out and not participate, but they decided to voice their opposition instead. That makes them bad guys

@Bmo827 @MLB When faced with opposing views, some people choose to abstain and some people choose to speak up. My problem is that articles like the one in the Athletic make it into a real distraction.

@nateelgin @MLB They could have done like Treinen and just wore the usual team cap. They instead broke rules, which they were WARNED about-not suspended or anything, and soft af people want to cry about it. They made it about themselves by choosing to do that, and now it's a distraction.

@ecq023 @BSpilner2f2f @MLB Respectfully, no one’s being persecuted here. Certainly not Christians, and I would argue, neither is the LGBTQ community. Players wrote a Bible verse on their hats, there’s pushback against it, theres pushback against the pushback, and no one is being persecuted.

@nateelgin @BSpilner2f2f @MLB I find it interesting that a religion which was highly persecuted for its beliefs now believes that persecuting others for their own lifestyles is absolutely fine instead of letting them live their own lives they way they want.

@Willg5555 @MLB Respectfully, they don’t. They’re not discriminating against Christians.

@nateelgin @MLB The MLB needs to be sued. This is outrageous.

@wierdone2345 Why is citing a Bible verse referencing a rainbow in the story of Noah’s ark, hateful? I could at least understand that view if he wrote “Leviticus 18” or “Romans 1”.

@nateelgin It's the timing, and lack of protests over the several other themed nights. It's also a coded message for being anti LGBTQ. We can all play dumb if you want but it's a hateful action towards a specific group of people.

@Evan15278282 @MLB @Reds Technically they are optional. But, the problem is that just like Kershaw, a player who’s acknowledging his beliefs on his hat, is getting ostracized. Why can’t he go under the radar and it be okay?

@nateelgin @MLB @Reds I think a religion is different than LGBTQ, it would be kind of weird to support a religion if you aren't part of it. I think they should do something where they actually change the uniforms, but it should be optional. Pride night uniforms should be optional too.

@richi_mil @MLB It’s not, but the Athletic article makes the Christian out to be a sort of bad guy here. That’s the problem.

@nateelgin @MLB It’s different. I’m Christian but not everyone is a Christian and we should not force our religion onto others. Pride night/month is simply just showing unity to those who are different than us and face scrutiny cuz thyare different. As a Christian why is that so hard to grasp?

@Evan15278282 @MLB @Reds I love that they do that, but that’s all after the game, not in-game on the uniform, with league wide PR support. I don’t think it’s the same. Also, the Reds were my first baseball love! My earliest memory of ball was the 1990 wire-to-wire champs! Born in Hamilton!

@nateelgin @MLB @Reds *Faith Day. They did it on a Sunday, as they should.

Maybe players who cite Gen 9 don’t hate the LGBTQ community. Maybe they are just FOR their faith. The church doesn’t have the best track record. I get that and we ought to own that. But dunking on a Christian for his faith is just as intolerant as many think Gen 9 is.

I think we’ve given ourselves over to anti-virtue, i.e. “I don’t want to be XYZ” so much that we don’t think it’s possible for someone to be FOR something without being ANTI something else. e.g. to be pro-life MUST mean you are anti women. And that comes from all sides.